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Hello everyone. My GPA for 3rd, 4th and 5th years of undergrad are 3.73, 3.61, 3.7+ respectively. My first year's GPA is not good at all also my first year was 2019-2020 so most schools don't count 2020. In my second year I took winter semester off due to illness but fall semester's gpa is 3.78. Everything is based on OMSAS scale. I have 3 awards ( 1 in research) and I have been active in student government for last 2 years. I am also finishing my undergrad thesis. I started volunteering for external organizations last year but not much hours. I plan to do my MCAT this summer and I think I will do great. What do you all think about my chances for 2025-2026 cycle? I have never applied before. Should I graduate this spring/summer or maybe graduate in fall? meanwhile getting some courses during summer to increase GPA for schools that looks for cGPA? I am also non-trad applicant (26 years old) from Ontario and I am scared that I am getting old. Any advise is appreciated. Thank you -
Hello everyone, I am graduating this year however I am not happy about my last 2 years GPA in order to apply to Western (I have 3.7+) and cGPA 3.5. I wanted to do a 1 year non-degree through TMU's chang school. But what do you all think about 2years accelerated baccalaureate programs that TMU offer? I can't really help my cGPA but at least I can increase the last 2 years. If I do the 2 year program, can I apply at the first year? There is also a disability studies bachelor program but it is part-time however you are allowed to get a full time course load. and same thing for this one, can I start applying in my first year? Any help is appreciated.
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Hello everyone! I am a registered PT in Ontario, and I spent a lot of time on here back in 2019-2020. I was accepted to all of the Ontario (English) schools including McMaster, Western, U of T, and Queens on my first round of applications. I took a bit of a unique road to become a PT including doing a PTA/OTA diploma, working for chiropractors and non-physios as a rehab assistant, doing an online undergrad degree, and volunteering in areas completely unrelated to physio. Neither my academic nor professional references came from physiotherapists themselves, and I know this sounds wild, but you do not need PT experience to get into PT! There is so much more to you than clinic volunteering and I want to help you identify these strengths. Canada appears to be one of the most competitive countries in the world for physiotherapy, and in the year I was accepted (2020), the acceptance rates ranged from 5.5% at McMaster to 12.2% at U of T. Many students I went to school with were on their second or third round of applications. It's a daunting and draining process and I am here offering 1:1 counseling/consulting/editing services to help you identify areas you can improve your application, and offer considerations that you may not have thought about that actually make you a stronger applicant than you previously thought! Please reach out if you are interested, whether it is editing and reviewing statements, identifying experiences you can use on your application, or other questions you may have, I am here for you. Send me a message here! (I am not going to price gouge you, btw) -
Hi all! I could use some advice on the next steps to take in my professional career. For the past year, I've been thinking more and more about attending medical school in a near future. I'm a 23 years old - single, no strings attached, no kids - guy and I feel like the longer I wait, the higher the chances are that it'll be too late to get in. But first, a little backstory... Throughout high school, I've always picked the pre-university classes with the idea that I would be going to university. I finally ended up applying at the collegial level and got accepted in the Primary Care Paramedic program at a french college in Ontario, but kept my classes so I could switch to the university level down the road. I graduated the PCP program in 2017 and ended up in the Advanced Care Paramedic program in the Fall of that year. I was lucky enough to land a job in my hometown as part-time PCP as I am finishing up my ACP preceptorship (preceptorship is the final placement in the truck, providing care to patients with your preceptor's partner and under your preceptor's supervision). As I am approaching the end of my paramedicine-prehospital education, I am trying to figure out my options and the best way to get accepted into med school. And there you have it: a 23 y/o PCP (soon to be ACP), academically inclined, who's been told a few times he should be going to medical school, and who's passionate about the intricacies in medicine and the human physiology. My ACP diploma does give me 2 or 3 years of equivalency in a health related bachelor. From the info I've gathered, I'm pretty sure I will still need to get an undergrad with a full-time schedule and that my EMS experience will be an advantage in my application. I'm curious to see who followed this unorthodox path of EMS to MD and their experience through the process. I've heard that their might be a university that "specializes" in 2nd career switch or in non-traditional applicants (I could be wrong though haha)? Any insights on the next steps or any recommandation will be greatly appreciated! Thanks for your time! TLDR; High School -> Primary Care Paramedic -> Advanced Care Paramedic (to-be) -> ? -> Medical School
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I'm a first time applicant, applied to McMaster, U of T, and Queen's. Recently finished my CASPer and am now feeling nervous about my next step. Haven't seen my cGPA on OMSAS yet and always feel like something is missing in my application, so I have checked OMSAS portal again and again just to make sure that my application is complete (this may have become my new obsession). I heard from elsewhere in this forum that interview invitations usually come in the spring (February-ish, I'm assuming?), so I'm wondering if anyone (who is also applying this cycle) wants to form a group so we can discuss our feelings and prepare for interviews together when the date draws near.
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Help choosing an undergrad program
Strugglingstudent003 posted a topic in General Premed Discussions
Currently a grade 12 student in Vancouver BC. I’ve applied to Calgary, Toronto and UBC for kin. I’ve been accepted to both Calgary and Toronto but am still waiting for UBC. But at this point I feel like my chances of getting into UBC are pretty slim even though it’s my first choice as admissions is ending soon. My goal is to get into med school one day and I’m hoping for some advice as to which program would give me a better chance to achieve my goal. -
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Good day, I hope everyone is doing well. So I have asked about this in another Forum (under the similar username of this Premed101 account) and did get some positive replies from medical students and current undergraduate students. But I'm still facing the dilemma, so someone told me to post here in Premed101 to get more responses in order to make my decision. Please if you can take some time out and help me decide I'll be very grateful. I'm a 25y/o from Ontario, I dropped out of high school in my late teens due to personal problems and depression, then at the age of 21 I decided to go back to high school and finish off my Grade 12 courses. Then after almost 2 years of study I graduated with an overall of 87% in the OSSD. Upon graduating high school at 23 years old I went through a monetary crisis which led me to depression again, in addition I was very stressed with anxiety. I also procrastinated my undergrad application deadlines because I wasn't feeling well. Now, just recently after psychological counselling sessions I feel a slightly bit mentally prepared. But the problem is I hardly remember the things that I have learned in Grade 12 Physics and Chemistry. During that time I was mentally stressed being the oldest one in school but still managed to finish the high school courses by cramming. However the Grade 12 Biology, Calculus and Advanced Functions, I remember studying those. Hence I kind of remember the course materials of Grade 12 Biology, Calculus and Advanced Functions but not the ones that I crammed the Grade 12 Physics and Chemistry. I also didn't make any notes when doing the high school courses, I mainly bought a couple of textbooks by McGraw Hill and Nelson, did the practice questions and that it. And also another reason beside cramming , I had a 2 year study gap after graduating high school when I was depressed and felt drained out. There are still some Ontario universities and some Out of Province Universities that are still accepting students for undergraduate Fall 2020 entry since most University classes will be taken entirely online. Would it be better if I start my undergraduate this Fall 2020 (BSc in Biology or Biomedical Science) in OOP schools like University of Saskatchewan or other universities) without having any sort of preparation, because I feel that I have forgotten most of what I learned or crammed almost 2 years ago when I graduated high school at 23. Or is it going to be better if I start school in Winter 2021 and in the meantime in-between September to December I get prepared by making notes on each Grade 12 Courses that I previously completed. (Because before I didn't make any notes when studying for the grade 12 courses, as I said earlier I only read textbooks and did practice questions, I also crammed most of Grade 12 Physics and Chemistry). Is this a viable option? There are some huge cons of starting school in January 2021 which is I won't be accountable for wGPA and Full Course Load Med School application systems (I'm very sorry, I have little knowledge about this). Would it be a great disadvantage if I start school in Winter session? Is there anybody here that started their undergrad in January or Winter session in the pre-med track or got into medical school ? I'm just worried if I'll do very poorly in my 1st year because coming from a 2 year gap then there were some courses I crammed, I feel really guilty about this and regret it. I think if I had atleast 2/3 months of self preparation before starting the undergrad, I think I would have been able to relearn and recollect everything. But now if I start in Fall 2020 I have about 2 weeks left and if I start in January 2021 I can use the time to write notes on Grade 12 courses and relearn everything that I forgot. Please help me decide, what would you have done if you were in my situation? I really don't know who to talk to about this, I'm very much stressing out. I'm very sorry if I was being too repetitive in my description but I'm currently going through a lot of stress regarding this. Thank you very much for taking your valuable time to read through this, I will really appreciate all of your replies and suggestions. I need to make this decision in a few days, so Please help me out. -
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Good day, I hope everyone is doing well. So I have asked about this in another Forum (under the similar username of this Premed101 account) and did get some positive replies from medical students and current undergraduate students. But I'm still facing the dilemma, so someone told me to post here in Premed101 to get more responses in order to make my decision. Please if you can take some time out and help me decide I'll be very grateful. I'm a 25y/o from Ontario, I dropped out of high school in my late teens due to personal problems and depression, then at the age of 21 I decided to go back to high school and finish off my Grade 12 courses. Then after almost 2 years of study I graduated with an overall of 87% in the OSSD. Upon graduating high school at 23 years old I went through a monetary crisis which led me to depression again, in addition I was very stressed with anxiety. I also procrastinated my undergrad application deadlines because I wasn't feeling well. Now, just recently after psychological counselling sessions I feel a slightly bit mentally prepared. But the problem is I hardly remember the things that I have learned in Grade 12 Physics and Chemistry. During that time I was mentally stressed being the oldest one in school but still managed to finish the high school courses by cramming. However the Grade 12 Biology, Calculus and Advanced Functions, I remember studying those. Hence I kind of remember the course materials of Grade 12 Biology, Calculus and Advanced Functions but not the ones that I crammed the Grade 12 Physics and Chemistry. I also didn't make any notes when doing the high school courses, I mainly bought a couple of textbooks by McGraw Hill and Nelson, did the practice questions and that it. And also another reason beside cramming , I had a 2 year study gap after graduating high school when I was depressed and felt drained out. There are still some Ontario universities and some Out of Province Universities that are still accepting students for undergraduate Fall 2020 entry since most University classes will be taken entirely online. Would it be better if I start my undergraduate this Fall 2020 (BSc in Biology or Biomedical Science) in OOP schools like University of Saskatchewan or other universities) without having any sort of preparation, because I feel that I have forgotten most of what I learned or crammed almost 2 years ago when I graduated high school at 23. Or is it going to be better if I start school in Winter 2021 and in the meantime in-between September to December I get prepared by making notes on each Grade 12 Courses that I previously completed. (Because before I didn't make any notes when studying for the grade 12 courses, as I said earlier I only read textbooks and did practice questions, I also crammed most of Grade 12 Physics and Chemistry). Is this a viable option? There are some huge cons of starting school in January 2021 which is I won't be accountable for wGPA and Full Course Load Med School application systems (I'm very sorry, I have little knowledge about this). Would it be a great disadvantage if I start school in Winter session? Is there anybody here that started their undergrad in January or Winter session in the pre-med track or got into medical school ? I'm just worried if I'll do very poorly in my 1st year because coming from a 2 year gap then there were some courses I crammed, I feel really guilty about this and regret it. I think if I had atleast 2/3 months of self preparation before starting the undergrad, I think I would have been able to relearn and recollect everything. But now if I start in Fall 2020 I have about 2 weeks left and if I start in January 2021 I can use the time to write notes on Grade 12 courses and relearn everything that I forgot. Please help me decide, what would you have done if you were in my situation? I really don't know who to talk to about this, I'm very much stressing out. I'm very sorry if I was being too repetitive in my description but I'm currently going through a lot of stress regarding this. Thank you very much for taking your valuable time to read through this, I will really appreciate all of your replies and suggestions. I need to make this decision in a few days, so Please help me out.
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I am looking to choose a program between these offers. My end goal is med school, but i want a university where it’ll be easy to achieve that goal and gpa without becoming depressed and drained from studying 24/7. I would also like a good atmosphere and one that is welcoming to diverse students as i am a POC. Which program is best suited for me? -
Hi! I have created this thread as I am deciding between UofT, Queens, and McMaster for OT (and I am sure others are as well). I was wondering if any current OT students or graduates would be able to answer some of the questions I had or just share some of their experiences at these schools. So far from my own research I gathered the following: UofT seems to have more of a research focus, with a couple of the courses being research-based (e.g. learning methodologies, how to write a proposal). They also have LEAP placements where one can be placed where there is no OT present or OT role. Queens seems to have a mental health and communication focus (one mandatory placement in mental health). It also seems their program is shorter than the others (it can potentially end in June depending on when we schedule our last placement), and has 4 terms of classes rather than 5 like the other schools. I think they also say not to expect all fieldwork to take place in Kingston? McMaster- I don't know a lot about them other than problem based learning- which I am still trying to wrap my head around what that is, would appreciate if someone could explain PBL to me! Please correct me if I am wrong with any of the above info and I would appreciate if current students or grads could share their experiences. -
Hi, I'm still in high school and I'm looking at which "premed" program to apply to next year that focuses on preparing students for medicine. I know that any program is good as long as you can get a good GPA and high MCAT scores, but are they any specific programs (in Canada) that gear specifically towards premed? Thanks in advance!
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My brother is finishing grade 11 this year in Ontario. This summer we will be moving to Quebec. When we go, will he get into CEGEP without a high school diploma or will he automatically get a high school diploma in Québec. Thanks for answering.
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Hi there. Just trying to get a better understanding of my chances at Ontario med schools - I've really lost perspective on if I'm good enough over the last year and just want some opinions. Please be brutally honest. I'm currently in my 3rd year of undergrad at UofT. GPA listed is OMSAS GPA predicting what I'll have at the end of this year (as a medium case scenario). cGPA: 3.87 UofT wGPA: 3.92 MCAT: Haven't written yet. Took the NS full length without studying last summer and got 506 (126/126/127/127) if that means anything. Other info: very involved since my high school days, a few awards, Dean's list every year so far, leadership heavy, mentoring focused as well as women's empowerment, mental health advocacy, NSERC recipient, 2 poster presentations, 1 oral presentation, paper currently in review (just contributed supplemental material though so one of the last authors), long term sports involvement and captaining role too, working at a community center with refugee youth population, DON'T HAVE ANY CLINICAL EXPERIENCE/HOSPITAL VOLUNTEERING Honestly, I'm really worried about my GPA mainly. I had a rough first semester this year because of mental health issues (ironic because of my ECs smh) but not completely awful as I didn't get anything below 80, but I got mostly 3.7s which brought down my cGPA a bit so idk if that warrants an academic explanations essay.
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Hi premeds, med students, etc! Sorry in advance for the length of this post! I know it's a lot to read for a stranger, and I would be extremely, extremely grateful for some honest feedback on what my chances might be this year. I am unsure if I am a non-trad or trad applicant - probably somewhere in between! I'm hoping for an objective look into what my chances might be! To be honest, I'm a few years older than most people applying to med school, so I'm really stressing out as I don't really want to waste any more years before starting. Thanks in advance for any feedback, help, advice, or input that you can offer. 24/M, first-time applying. Ontario resident (GTA, so non-SWOMEN), non-Indigenous, non-Francophone, non-rural. Applied across Ontario (except NOSM), Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, and McGill Education: interdisciplinary Arts and Science degree from McMaster, MSc in Global Health from McMaster (one year course-based degree, so I don't qualify for the graduate degree GPA boosts unfortunately) GPA: This is what really works against me. My GPA is 3.84 - for the record, I'm not trying to say that it terrible or anything; it's just that we all know how high Canadian stats have to be (especially in Ontario). What makes it way worse is that I am not eligible for wGPA calculations at Ottawa or UofT because my last two years were part time due to serious health issues. In my first and second years year, I had a GPA of 3.95. Then I had a psychotic break and a concussion, which meant that my third and fourth year GPAs were pretty shit by med school standards (3.6-3.7ish). I also had to take a reduced course load these two years. I wrote an academic explanation essay for UofT and Western, but Western only uses it to mitigate poor MCAT scores, not a poor GPA, so it doesn't help much. I'm not really sure if I can overcome my GPA in my last two years. MCAT: 524 (130/131/131/132). This is definitely the strongest part of my application, especially my 132 CARS. However, unfortunately a lot of Canadian schools (like UofT) only use a cutoff system, so they wouldn't view a 514 and a 524 any differently. Hopefully it helps at other schools, though, but I'm not sure if it will outweigh my 3rd/4th year GPAs. Research: 4 research assistant positions (two in chemistry, two in health policy, none in anything directly medical related like microbiology.). No real publications. I did list two publications, but they're in a non-peer reviewed paper (it was a student journal), so I doubt that will count for much. Extra-curriculars: lots of budget solo travel/backpacking/hitchhiking, lots of intramural sports, competed in powerlifting, wrote a novel, acted in a play Volunteering: honestly, not much. Tutored for a couple years in undergrad, and volunteered at a hospital and nursing home (both in high school). Debated including my animal rights (i.e. vegan) activism, but decided against it as it might have been too controversial Work: worked as a tour guide, pharmacy assistant, and receptionist in uni. Worked in Greece for an NGO for a summer during grad school (working with refugee communities in the realm of sexual health). Have worked a dead-end admin job at a hospital (registering patients) for 4 years now. In short, my MCAT is stellar, my ECs/volunteering/work is average, my research is slightly under par, and my GPA (which is arguably the most important thing) is well below what it needs to be. I'm hoping everything else can make up for that, but I really want to hear honest feedback! Thank you SO much if you took the time to read this all! Good luck, everyone!!! I hope to meet some of you next September! -
My GPA's not stellar but my MCAT and ECs are decent. What would be my chances to get into med school in Ontario? I'm in Life Sciences at McMaster. Would taking a masters be a good idea? And if so, which degree should I be thinking about? First yr: 3.3 Second yr: 3.87 Third yr: 4.0 MCAT: 525 ECs: Hospital shadowing, exec position for Doctors without Borders, Global Medical Brigades, research, design reviewing for devices for patients with disabilities, multiple awards for social justice debates and research competitions Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you!
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Hello all, Im an IMG interested in General Surgery and was wondering what the different pros and cons of each program are, and what respective residents think about their programs -
I know that there is Western Medical Science which sends a lot of students to med other than health science, are there any other programs like these? I want to know this because I am in grade 12 and want to be a doctor. I want to take a bachelor's program which is science oriented while also giving me the best shot possible for med school. Most of time what I hear is that if you don't get into the two courses I mentioned your best choice will be to go to an easy university so you can still get a high GPA (rather than a life science program which are generally tough), like you would in health sci due to grade inflation, is all of this true? Finally, if it is true, what are some science based programs I can take at one of these easy universities like Guelph and York, while also having opportunities for extracurriculars and research at the university. I live in the GTA by the way.
