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  1. Posted this in SDN/**DELETED** as well, but thought I might most this here as well since there people might not visit both sites concurrently. ***NOW UPDATED WITH THE NEW MSAR released 3.22.2018*** The new MSAR values are given at the top of each school's description with a heading MSAR 2018. Note that this means using MSAR values released on 2018. They're for class entering fall 2017. Hi fellow non-Americans, As noncitizens, we face greater difficulty than Americans - there are schools that flat out reject any international applications, schools that say they accept but never really interview anyone (looking at you, Tufts and Baylor), and schools that are super friendly towards us. Of course, they're all on MSAR, but unless some screams MSAR at you you won't look at it. It took me a while to come up with a list via MSAR, supplanted with wisdoms of **DELETED** and SDN. I'm now writing to share that with you so you won't have to go through same process. Everything here is based on 2017 MSAR, and things can change. So go buy that MSAR and start looking at it! Applying is just one aspect. There's also the financial problem - US MD schools are quite expensive, and we can't get federal financial aid. No FAFSA for us. Probably don't have a cosigner to get private loans, too. So unless you can come up with a brilliant way to fund half a million dollars, your acceptance is going to be rescinded. That's not nice - so something definitely to think about before applying to 40 schools. There are schools that will provide some sort of funding - loans, grants - to non-Americans, but there aren't that many. Keep this in mind before sending your application. Ontarians can take OSAP and loans with co-signer from CIBC, RBC, TD, etc for max $250,000 CDN and ~$40,000 OSAP. No clue about other provinces. Quoting [USER=334945]@Goro[/USER], International students need to be Harvard/Stanford calibre. While this may be an exaggeration (sorta), do keep in mind that if there is another American candidate that's exact replica of us, he/she will probably get in over us. Higher stats, ECs are expected from us. Sucks, but that's life. Also doesn't help that most of international-friendly schools are clustered near the top. Few quick points: Public schools are less likely to take in internationals than Americans. Go for private. Kentucky loving Canadians is a notable exception to this. Top schools are more likely to take in internationals AND give financial aid. Forget about Texas and California. Schools taking 1 international students are excluded on this list. Quoting [USER=432540]@gyngyn[/USER], they're likely to be inside candidates. He recommends 3 or above. There are couple schools taking 1-2 internationals on this list, though it's mostly because they've taken more in the past. When it says 'no Aid', its for Canadian/Internationals. Not for Americans. When it says 90hr/1yr/Bachelors required, that's for International students outside of US/Canada. If you're Canadian or internationals student who went to US undergrad, dont need to worry about this. US Permanent Residents = US Citizens DACA = for the most part, international students Thos with CoA ??? = I couldn't find the total cost of attendance. I might've written total tuition costs next to it. Also keep in mind that CoA is just an estimate! Schools providing Financial Aid: These schools are willing to provide some form of financial aid to international/Canadian students, whether in forms of Loans or Grants. Mostly rich schools high up in the ladder. Albert Einstein College of Medicine MSAR 2018: 3.82/515, 5 International Matriculants. 3.83/516, 5 International Matriculants. CoA $290K. Has an escrow requirement: 2 year for Non-Canadians, half of 1 year tuition for Canadians. Financial aid is available through Einstein Scholarship and College Loan Funds. Requires 1 year post-secondary education in US/Canada. Columbia (Vagelos) MSAR 2018: 3.87/519, 5 International Matriculants. 3.87/519, 7 International Matriculants. CoA $380K(!). Has financial aid, although significant amount of it is in loans. Requires 3 full year + Bachelor's degree in USCAN. Duke MSAR 2018: 3.88/519, 0 International Matriculants (!!). 3.85/516. 3 International Matriculants. CoA $310K. Has financial aid in forms of Need-based grant. Requires 1 year of post-sec Ed on USCAN. MD/PhD is only for Americans. Dartmouth (Geisel) MSAR 2018: 3.74/515, 4 International Matriculants. 3.78/515, 5 International matriculants. CoA $344K. States that it can provide 'need-based financial institutional scholarships and loans'. Requires 3yr of post-sec Ed in USCAN. Has a reputation for loving nontrads. Harvard MSAR 2018: 3.92/519, 6 International Matriculants. 3.92/518, 16 International matriculants. The most international-friendly school. CoA $370K. Aid is available with a unit loan. 1Yr post-sec ed on USCAN, although states that 'without Bachelor's in US/CAN rarely accepted.' Mount Sinai (Icahn) MSAR 2018: 3.87/519, 5 International Matriculants. 3.84/519, 4 International matriculants. CoA $290K. Aid is available ($31500/yr) + Merit scholarships. Loans for 3/4th years via Mpower. Couldn't find education requirements. Northwestern (Feinberg) MSAR 2018: 3.91/520, 0 International Matriculants. 3.9/519, 3 International matriculants. MSAR says 1, but NW says 3 on its page. wtf? CoA $350K, Aid is available. 3Yr post-sec Ed on USCAN. Stanford MSAR 2018: 3.86/519, 5 International Matriculants. 3.89/518, 5 International matriculants. CoA $352K, aid is available in forms of Grants and Loans. Need to show proof of 1 year of tuition. 1Yr post-sec ed on USCAN. Vanderbilt MSAR 2018: 3.91/521, 7 International Matriculants. 3.9/520, 6 International matriculants. CoA $350K, aid is available. 'Recommend' 1yr Post-sec ed on USCAN. Yale MSAR 2018: 3.88/521, 11 International Matriculants. 3.89/518, 10 International matriculants. CoA $355K, aid is available with a unit loan. 3Yr post-sec Ed on USCAN. Johns Hopkins MSAR 2018: 3.94/520, 8 International Matriculants. 3.92/519, 9 international matriculants. CoA $320K, aid is available. 1yr post-sec Ed on USCAN. Schools that won't provide Financial Aid/Canadian Only: These schools will only accept Canadian applicants in additions to usual Americans. They will not provide any forms of financial aid. Some may have escrow requirement. George Washington MSAR 2018: 3.72/511, 4 Canadian Matriculants. 3.72/511, super low-yield chool. 2 Canadian matriculants. CoA $320K(??). No aid available. Has a weird 'special International MD program' for international students, designed for said students to leave US and practice in their home country. Probably not something you're looking for. Regular MD is only for US/Canadians. Mayo - MN MSAR 2018: 3.91/517, 0 International Matriculants. 3.85/513. US/Canadians only. 2 Canadian matriculants. Only for MN - AZ/FL dont take Canadians. CoA 330K. No aid available (need-based aid available few years ago, need clarification) Michigan State - Public MSAR 2018: 3.68/507, 3 Canadian Matriculants. 3.71/507. US/Canadians only. 3 Canadian matriculants. CoA $330K. No aid available. Is hot in news these days. NYU Langone MSAR 2018: 3.92/521, 0 International Matriculants. 3.9/520. Not just Canadians, but also Canadian PRs. Maybe this is why there are other non-Canadians in their MSAR. 2 International matriculants. Willing to provide Merit scholarships but no other forms of Financial Aid. CoA 335K (4yr pathway) . No aid available. Maryland- Public MSAR 2018: 3.84/513, 3 Canadian Matriculants. 3.85/515. US/Canadians only. 2 Canadian matriculants. CoA $380K (!) No aid available. Virginia Commonwealth - Public MSAR 2018: 3.74/511, 2 Canadian Matriculants. 3.74/511. Super low-yield. 4 Canadian matriculants. CoA $275K. Canadians are essentially considered as OOS Americans. No aid available. Wayne State MSAR 2018: 3.74/509, 18 International Matriculants. 3.76/508. US/Canadians, and any international student who went to Wayne State as undergrad. 8 International matriculants. CoA $350K. No aid available. Central Michigan - Public MSAR 2018: 3.74/506, 4 Canadian Matriculants. 3.7/504, US/Canadians only. 5 Canadian matriculants. CoA $384K(!!) the most expensive school on the list. Wants ties to Central Michigan. Being in Canada doesn't count. Schools that won't provide Financial Aid: These schools will consider all international applications, but will not provide any forms of Financial aid. Some may have escrow requirement. Boston MSAR 2018: 3.83/518, 11 International Matriculants. 3.81/516, 11 International Matriculants. Low-yield school. CoA $350K. No financial aid. Requires 2 year of post-secondary education + prerequisites done in US/CAN. Rosalind Franklin MSAR 2018: 3.62/518, 9 International Matriculants. 3.63/511, 8 International Matriculants. Low-yield school. CoA $300K. No financial aid. Needs Casper. Requires 90hr of post-sec Ed on USCAN. Emory MSAR 2018: 3.79/515, 3 International Matriculants. 3.79/515, 4 international matriculants. CoA $320K. No financial aid. Requires 32hr of science coursework on USCAN. Georgetown MSAR 2018: 3.8/513, 9 International Matriculants. 3.74/512, 5 international matriculants. Super low-yield. CoA $370K. No financial Aid. Needs foreign transcript evaluated. Medical College of Wisconsin MSAR 2018: 3.79/511, 4 International Matriculants. 3.76/515, 1 international matriculants. CoA $275K. No financial aid. Requires document supporting your ability to pay up $254K. 90hr of ed on USCAN. Casper required. Wants to see shadowing. Canadians beware New York Medical College MSAR 2018: 3.63/511, 4 International Matriculants. 3.65/512. 4 international matriculants. No secondary = super low yield. CoA ???. No financial aid. Escrow requirement of $239K. Prereqs must be done on USCAN. Bachelors' strongly recommended. Penn State MSAR 2018: 3.82/510, 2 International Matriculants. 3.82/509. 1 International matriculants. CoA $285K. No financial aid. All prereq must be done on USCAN. Penn (Perelman) MSAR 2018: 3.88/520, 1 International Matriculants. 3.87/518. 6 International matriculants. CoA ???, Tuition only is $240K. No Financial Aid. Gives good amount of scholarships but disappointing from such a rich school 1yr ed on USCAN. Pittsburgh MSAR 2018: 3.86/517, 3 International Matriculants. 3.85/515. 3 International matriculants. CoA $330K. Escrow requirement of 2-yr tuition. No financial aid. 1yr + prereqs done on USCAN. Saint Louis University MSAR 2018: 3.89/513, 12 International Matriculants. 3.87/512. 11 International matriculants. CoA $295K. Escrow requirement of $210K. No aid. Requires TOEFL or SAT as test of English proficiency. Jefferson (Sidney Kimmel) MSAR 2018: 3.74/514, 5 International Matriculants. 3.75/512. 9 International matriculants. Super low-yield. CoA $308K. No Aid available. Requires Bachelors from USCAN. SUNY-Upstate - Public MSAR 2018: 3.73/513, 7 International Matriculants. 3.75/512. 8 International matriculants. CoA $367K. No aid available. Requires 90hr post-sec ed on USCNA. Likes Canadians SUNY-Stony Brook - Public MSAR 2018: 3.82/514, 9 International Matriculants. 3.8/514. 3 International matriculants. CoA $370K. Needs 'Affidavit of support' for this amount. 1yr post-sec ed on USCAN. Tulane MSAR 2018: 3.64/511, 4 International Matriculants. 3.62/511. 5 International matriculants. CoA $355K. No aid available. Casper required. Hawaii (Burns) - Public MSAR 2018: 3.82/513, 2 International Matriculants. 3.76/510. 2 International matriculants. CoA ?? No aid available. Prereqs recommended to be done on USCAN. Kentucky - Public MSAR 2018: 3.83/511, 6 International Matriculants. 3.82/512. 8 International matriculants. Known to love Canadians. CoA $371K. No aid available. Need document supporting ability to pay 2 yr tuition. 1yr on USCAN. Application status changed from 'accepting all Canadians/Internationals' to 'Case-by-Case' for all Int/Canadian applications. Not sure of the consequence. Virginia - Public MSAR 2018: 3.91/519, 8 International Matriculants. 3.9/518. 2 International matriculants. According to my advisor's medical handbook, they treat Canadians like OOS Americans. What's up with Virginia and Canada? CoA 335K. 90hr on USCAN or UK. Washington University @ STL MSAR 2018: 3.91/521, 9 International Matriculants. 3.89/521. 8 International matriculants. CoA 335K. Escrow requirement. No need-based aid available (Merit aid is). 90hr on USCAN. Cornell (Weill) MSAR 2018: 3.87/519, 2 International Matriculants. 3.78/519. 5 International matriculants. CoA $355K. Escrow requirement. No aid available. Lona Linda MSAR 2018: 3.83/508, 17 International Matriculants. 3.86/508. 10 International matriculants. For SDA, super devout Christians. CoA ??? $225K tuition only. No aid available. 1yr on USCAN. Howard MSAR 2018: 3.45/502, 5 International Matriculants. 3.41/502. 9 International matriculant. HBCU. CoA $304K. No aid available. 68hr on USCAN. Case Western / CCLCM They'll accept starting next cycle. Since Case used to have a reputation of international/Canadian friendly, I'm adding them back on the list in advance. No idea about CCLCM though. MSAR 2018: 3.82/518, 7 International Matriculants. 3.81/517. CoA $356K. No need-based aid, though Merit Aid is possible. CCLCM covers everything. UCLA Makes to the list with stunning NINE internationals for fall 2017! Maybe I should've applied. But I like snows... MSAR 2018: 3.85/517, 9 International Matriculants 3.79/508. 2 International matriculants. Their MCAT went from 508 to 517, so..yeah. big jump there. Unsure about Financial Aid, though you should be eligible for Geffen scholarship (merit based) That's it. MSAR says 71 schools are willing to take International/Canadian applications. After some analysis, the list comes down to 42 for Canadians and 33 for internationals. There are schools that have taken more in the fast - ie. Utah took in 3 internationals 2015-2016. They aren't included in this list as none made it last year with only 5 interviews. Or schools like Duke that took a couple for 2016 but none for 2017. Schools not listed here and listed 'accepts International/Canadian applications' are likely to just shred your application and take your $$ as donations. Chicago (Pritzker) apparently 'used' to be int-friendly. None made it for class matriculating 2016. Your call. Wrote this up while dodging my PI's smoldering gaze at me, so there may be typos here and there. Point them out and I'd be happy to fix them up. Feel free to rip me apart if something's not true, and good luck.
  2. Hello, I am a long time lurker, and this is my first post. I was wondering if my fellow Canadian comrades could post some statistics on their GPA/MCAT/ECs and what US MD schools they're currently attending so I have an idea of the level of competition. Just confirming I am a Canadian CITIZEN. Also, I have the following stats, I would really appreciate some feedback and perhaps recommendations on certain schools that fit my experiences/scores: 516 on the MCAT (129/128/130/129) 3.8 GPA (Perfect GPA last 2 years, how significantly do they care about trends??) ECs: Lots of volunteering at a hospital in patient care (300+ hours) 2 publications with a neurosurgeon Spent the majority of my undergrad playing a varsity sport for my school, The remaining time was spent teaching special needs students with a company in my community and coaching. Did a few outreach clubs and have exec positions here and there, but nothing too serious outside of teaching, sports, and research. Lots of random awards by the university and province for sports, high class standing awards, and a bunch of smaller things. I have NO SHADOWING experience, given it isn't emphasized in Canada but please recommend whether it is very important to the states. I know it's a lot of questions but would REALLY appreciate it, thank you
  3. I know I will not make it into Canadian dental schools due to the rough first year I had (due to major illness). I am a music major currently in my second year. My first year GPA was 2.4 (like I said, I was very sick), but first semester of this year, it was 3.3, which bumped my CGPA up to 2.74. I am hoping to bump it up even further by taking intersession courses this summer and working really hard for the rest of my undergrad. I am looking at US schools as a plan B. I was wondering if anyone has any info on Canadian friendly schools that may be options for me. I am hoping that my diverse background will work in my favour. I am pursuing a major in music (with the appropriate dental prereqs, of course). I have not written the DAT yet.
  4. Hi All, I'm a student in 5th year of Med school studying here in Poland at WUM and I hold a Pakistani Passport. I am aware of the fact that you MUST be a PR holder or have a Canadian Citizenship to be eligible to practice there as there are steep chances for IMG's especially non Canadians. I will be getting engaged in a couple of months and my fiance is studying/working in Canada, He would get his PR soon hopefully. So here my question goes, can I just go to Canada after graduating which will be in 2 years and start preparing for Carms and get a PR in the meanwhile and then apply to residency (it would take 2 3 yeard after I graduate) ? What would be the best advice in this case or if there is some other pathway I should opt for?
  5. Hi all,I'm a 3rd year Ontario non-SWOMEN undergrad student with an MCAT score of 131/127/131/128 (517 total). My GPA is ~3.98 and I have strong non-clinical ECs and clinical research experience. I'll be applying to Canadian med schools this upcoming summer, and if I don't get accepted I'll apply to Canadian and US med schools the following year.I'm concerned that my 127 CARS shuts a lot of doors in Canada - I think I'm really only competitive for U of T, Queens, and Ottawa - so I'm considering re-writing. However, I'm concerned that re-writing will harm my chances at US med schools, as I've heard that US schools in general don't look favorably on re-writing without substantial improvement (I know that some US schools state on their website that they look at the most recent or highest MCAT, but I've seen others recommend interpreting those statements cautiously). I don't think I will be able to 'substantially improve'; realistically, my goal with a re-write would be to get a similar overall score with just a couple points higher in CARS.I plan on submitting a Canadian application this upcoming cycle because Canada does not frown upon re-applicants so the potential of getting rejected this cycle is not a deterrent. However, I would need an additional year to get my US application prepared.TL;DR: Should I re-write my MCAT (517 with 127 CARS) - bolstering my Canadian application if CARS improves (even if total score decreases) but potentially harming my US app - or just apply with my current MCAT score (in the 2017/18 cycle for Canada and in the 2018/19 cycle for US and Canada)?
  6. I'm in the third year in McMaster University and I want to apply to both Canadian and American medical schools this summer. I'm really lost in regards to this process; who should write my LoRs? How would I submit them to both Canadian and American medical schools? When should this submission be done?
  7. I'm in the third year in McMaster University and I want to apply to both Canadian and American medical schools this summer. I'm really lost in regards to this process; who should write my LoRs? How would I submit them to both Canadian and American medical schools? When should this submission be done?
  8. Currently, I am in the midst of second year, where I just screwed around first and second year first sem. After a talk with my parents, I wonder if med school after 4th year is still possible for me, assuming that I take my schooling carefully and respectfully, and hopefully obtain a good mcat score, would the comeback still be possible. My cumulative GPA is currently really low (<1.5), [Canadian Scale] with me having to redo ORGO 1 this summer. I would appreciate any advice if any one has ever been in a similar situation, I am interested in applying to both the states and Canadian Medical Schools.
  9. Currently, I am in the midst of second year, where I just screwed around first and second year first sem. After a talk with my parents, I wonder if med school after 4th year is still possible for me, assuming that I take my schooling carefully and respectfully, and hopefully obtain a good mcat score, would the comeback still be possible. My cumulative GPA is currently really low (<1.5), [Canadian Scale] with me having to redo ORGO 1 this summer. I would appreciate any advice if any one has ever been in a similar situation, I am interested in applying to both the states and Canadian Medical Schools.
  10. Hi, I am selling access to my DAT Bootcamp premium access which expires at the end of December. This is a great resource for because of the abundance of past DAT exam questions you can access through their practice tests. It is amazing for PAT because they have generators and thorough video explanations on strategies for PAT. I am also selling my Canadian Dental Association DAT Preparation Manual. This is the only exam that was released by the official Canadian DAT administrator and is a great way to gauge your preparedness. Ideally, we can meet in person in Vancouver to ensure a smooth transaction. $50 each - negotiable. Please message me for more details.
  11. Okay I know 6 is a lot but please read.I started a degree online back in 2013 and hated it. I pretty much neglected it because my parents borderline forced me (as I had a good job in a small town without a Uni). It was in HR and after i just didn't bother with the first semester but said I would give it a second go - same outcome. Not one ounce of me took it seriously nor thought about long term outcome.ANYWAYS, since then i've been doing my psychology degree, full course load and in class (I relocated). I have a 3.8 GPA and have been volunteering for 3 years now. I've submerged myself in the "premed" lifestyle and course load, EC's, etc. Until the other day I realized that my online FAIL is now haunting me.So my question is. Has anyone ever omitted transcripts from their application and if I submit them will they even CONSIDER having me in for an interview? My cumulative GPA with 6 fails seems like something I can't make a come back from.Please don't judge I'm in a pretty deep mental rut about this already.
  12. Hoping to answer any questions people may have regarding OMFS applications for Canadian citizens. Things to consider: "Canadian-friendly" programs CBSE materials/preparation/competitive scores CV & PS Navigating the PASS Application Externships Interviews The MATCH Good luck to those applying in the next cycle.
  13. Hey everyone, So it's my first time considering applying to American schools and I was hoping someone would be able to share some info about MSU. From what I can see, it looks as though they are relatively Canadian friendly, as anyone who is a Canadian citizen can apply with full consideration given to degrees obtained in Canada. However based on their admission statistics on MSAR, they only accepted 3 from 500 international applicants. Seeing as how MSU doesn't accept non-US citizens, non-US residents or non-Canadian citizens, does that mean in this case Canadians were considered international? Or were they considered out of state? Just figured I'd post on here before emailing them to see if I could get a quick response. Any info anyone might have would be really appreciated. Thanks in advance!
  14. Hi, I am a Canadian, and I am contemplating whether or not to rewrite the MCAT to apply to American schools. My overall MCAT score is 512 (87th percentile) The issue is that I don't know how much US schools care about overall score vs. individual sections. I have a 123 in one section, but 128/130/131 in the others! I also have a 4.0 GPA or close to. But My main question is about the subsection vs. overall score because in Canada individual sections are super important Some feedback would be appreciated!
  15. Hello, I'm wondering which US and Canadian med schools weigh the MCAT most highly in the admissions process? I recently took the MCAT and scored a 132/132/132/131, this is the first cycle I'll be applying to med school. I am a Canadian applicant (BC resident). Thanks!
  16. For those of us applying to both Canadian + American med schools: do we write the CASPER test once, or are there different versions of the CASPER test?
  17. Hey there! I've bought the MSAR, and have looked through it a lot... however I am having some serious struggles with deciding where to apply to. My cGPA is a 3.65 with a strong upward trend (first year GPA was a 3.0), my MCAT score is a 509 (poor CARS score), I am rewriting my MCAT this summer. I have already completed 90% of the AMCAS application, but now I'm questioning if it's even worth to apply.. Literally every school I look into has different course requirements, different letter of reference requirements, and barely matriculate international students. (What even is the point of asking for a LOR from a science/ non-science professor... my classes all had 200+ students, no professor I've taken a SINGLE class with will be able to write anything worthwhile.... damn I wish Canadian Schools weren't so competitive) If anyone has any schools I should look into please let me know! Thanks peeps
  18. What are your boi's chances?I am looking for some criticism of my school list. I am a Canadian applicant who doesn't have english (prevents me from applying to a lot of schools). I will also be applying this cycle in Canada but am looking to broaden my chances by tossing some apps to the states. s/cGPA = 3.91 (Year 1: 3.7, Year 2: 4.0, Year 3: 4.0) MCAT = 516: 128/126/131/131 Clinical EC's -73 hrs. volounteering in urgent care center - 895 hrs. Paid clinical research co-coordinator (My job was handling patient visits/direct clinical encounters) - 75 hrs. Physician shadowing variety of specialities (Anesthesiology, Gen Surg, EM, Dermatology, ENT, Fam Med) Research - Pubs/presentaiton: 3rd author review pub, Public research presentaiton, Local poster presentaion -Just started as student researcher in tumor immunology lab (project 184 hrs work by matriculation, possible pub) Non-clinical EC's -Pending patent on solar water pump for developing countries - 3 Service trips: 1 teaching in Jamacia, 1 building school, 1 mobile clinic (total work = 140 hrs) - 60 hrs. Orientation week leader - 151 hrs. VP of 3 different clubs at University (All focused on medical aid/health care improvement) -55 hrs. Social media coordinator for car wash company - 24 hrs. Delivery man for leftover food from University caf to local homless shelter Academic Accolades - Deans list -Deans list with distinction x 2 (given to top 3% of students) -University entrance scholarship - Lieutenant govenor of ontario award/Duke of Ed Gold Award - University scholarship given to 16 outstanding sophmore students Personal endavours - Co-captain/member of various intermural sports teams - Rigid personal fitness schedule 7hrs per week -Avid Traveller Schools Reach: Hopkins, Harvard, NYU, Yale Reach (iffy): Vanderbilt, WSLU Targets: Einstein, Duke, Sidney Kimmel, Geisel (Dartmouth), Georgetown, Oakland (William Baumont), Tulane , Hawaii, Chicago Rosalind Franklin, Loma Linda, Gorge Wash Targets (iffy): Mayo, CMU , Michigan State, Boston, Rush Medical College, UC Davis, Eastern Virgina, U Arizona
  19. Hi Everyone, first time poster here looking for some advice for a unique situation that I'm in. Hopefully some other people out there have been through something similar or might know some information that I don't! I'm planning to apply to medical school this summer but I'm debating if I should apply to American schools for several reasons. First, some facts: I have an undergrad degree from an Ontario university (cGPA = 3.80, sGPA = 3.85, year 2-4 GPA = 3.89) I am currently in my first year of a two year graduate program (Physiotherapy at an Ontario university), which I will finish in Sept 2018 if I stay in I wrote the MCAT for the first time in Aug 2016 and scored a 518 (pretty even across each subject, I studied hard) I decided I wanted to go to med school (and write the MCAT) after applying to PT (long story) but I got into PT so I went with it The dilemma is this: I learned from a grad school adviser that I am unable to apply to most Canadian medical schools while I am enrolled in a graduate program. I have to prove that I will be completing my Master's prior to the summer before entering med school in order for them to even consider my application. I also read most of the Canadian medical school's websites and found various statements which also say something along the same lines. The only schools that I think will actually let me apply this year (that I know of) are McMaster, Ottawa and possibly Alberta. However, I don't like McMaster's PBL style, Ottawa won't look at my MCAT and Alberta is out of province for me (odds are lower). Mainly for this reason I am considering applying to American medical schools this year. I'm wondering if anyone has any opinions on this? (NOTE: I realize I can wait till I graduate and apply to all Canadian schools but I want to avoid this for several reasons that I won't get into). Some things I'm wondering about: I know it's tough for a Canadian citizen to get admitted to US schools but I think my admission stats are good and my ECs are pretty decent as well. Do I have a good chance at MD schools? Tuition is much higher in the states and obviously OSAP won't help me. Will I be able to get loans from a Canadian bank? Is their financial aid available from the schools for Canadians? Is the amount of debt I'll be in so overwhelming that it's not worth it? Will I have any trouble getting a visa if I get in? What about after the 4 years with finding a residency? Does being a Canadian citizen limit me at all? I wouldn't mind practicing in the states, I've heard the earning potential is higher and the outlook is better for doctors there at the moment. Are these things true? Will I eventually be able to come back to Canada to practice? Are there any other major advantages or disadvantages to going to an American school that I haven't considered? If you've read this far, thank you! I welcome any advice or knowledge anyone can share about these topics. It would be much appreciated! I'd also be happy to return the favour and answer any questions about how I got to where I am
  20. I wanted to make a list of medical school requirements (what/how many courses you need, what year they look at, any special eligibility to drop grades (e.g. UofT if you take a full courseload, you get to drop your lowest mark during that year), if school looks at your summer GPA. I have a makeshift list so far, but if anybody could add to it that would be great <3 When people starts adding, I'll finish with a nicer looking chart. Just need help with UBC Dalhousie (NOTHING): To be eligible to apply to Dalhousie Medical School, a full course load of five full classes in each of the two most senior years of the baccalaureate degree submitted for assessment is required. This must be the case regardless of the course load required by the program in which you are enrolled. Only fall and winter terms are used for assessment. Summer courses do not count towards GPA or course load requirements. No specific courses are required, but students are encouraged to pursue challenging and diverse topics, and to have a natural progression in their course selection of the degree being completed. McGill: 2 biology, 2 chemistry, 2 physics, 1 organic chemistry McMaster: An overall simple average will be calculated using the grades from all undergraduate degree level courses ever taken (with the exception of credits taken on exchange outside of Canada/USA). Work of different years is treated equally. This average is calculated by the applicant on the OMSAS Academic Record Form and verified on the OMSAS Verification Report which is sent to applicants. McMaster University may also review and revise this average. The marks from supplementary and summer courses will be included in the GPA calculation. Courses for which a "Pass" grade is assigned are counted for credit, but will not be included in the GPA calculation. In order for the GPA to be evaluated, independent grades from a minimum of 5 half-year or 5 full-year courses in total, are required, without which the application will not be considered. Queens: Degree programs or individual courses are not considered a factor in the calculation of GPAs Calculations include grades from all courses included on the transcript, including repeated courses Courses with Pass/Fail grades or transfer credits (including International Baccalaureate, Advance Placement and CEGEP programs) are not included No adjustments are made based on course load or course levels Calgary (NOTHING): The Cumming School of Medicine does not require that students undertake a formal pre-medical program. No specific courses are required for application or acceptance to the MD program. The admissions committee recommends that applicants consider taking as many of the courses listed in the Applicant Manual as their schedules allow, as the content of these courses will be helpful in preparing for the Medical College Admission Test and during the MD program. Whether or not an applicant has taken these courses at the time of application will not be taken into consideration in scoring the academic record. Students should ensure that the courses they choose satisfy the degree requirements of the undergraduate faculty in which they are registered. Manitoba (what?): The College of Medicine welcomes applicants from all provinces and territories. Up to 5% of the class will be selected from this pool. The Admissions Committee defines Out of Province as those who are a citizen or permanent resident of Canada, but are not a permanent resident of Manitoba. Eligibility requirements remain the same for this applicant pool and you are welcome to apply if you meet or exceed the minimum requirements. However, the Admissions Committee discourages individuals from applying who have an AGPA lower than 3.94 and an operative MCAT score lower than 10.75. If you fall into one or both of these categories, you have a low chance of receiving an invitation to interview. You will need the science courses Chemistry 40S and Biology 40S or 40G in preparation for university studies. Many students also take Physics 40S in preparation for the Medical College Admission Test (MCAT). In addition, you will need Math 40S (pre-calculus or applied) and definitely need English 40S or French 40S. Ottawa (need org chem for an equivalent of 2 full year courses of chem): One full year course (or two semester courses) in General Biology including laboratory session; One full year course (or two semester courses) in Humanities / Social Sciences; The equivalent of two full-year courses (or four semester courses) of the following Chemistry courses: i) General Biochemistry without laboratory session; ii) General Chemistry with laboratory session; iii) Organic Chemistry with laboratory session. A full-time academic year where the equivalent of four (4) full-year courses is taken is accepted and counted in the WGPA calculation only if the missing course/credit is completed either as an additional course within another academic year or as a summer course. Individual courses taken during a summer session are accepted for the credit value in this instance however the mark obtained is not counted in the calculation of the WGPA. Any year with less than four full-year courses will not count as a full-time year of study. A full-time summer semester does not replace a semester of studies within an academic year. AP, IB and transfer credits are not recognized as fulfilment of full time studies requirement. Toronto: two full-course equivalents (FCEs) in life sciences and one FCE in a social science, humanities or language UBC: The fuck? 6 credits in english. How does this work. Is that 3.0 credits in English??? Western: Applicants must meet the minimum GPA in each of the two best undergraduate years with a full course load of 5 full or equivalent courses (30 credit hours) taken between September and April. Each of the two years used for the GPA requirement must have at least 3 full course equivalents whos e published level is at or above the year of study. For example, in your third year of study, 3 of 5 full course equivalents must be at the 3rd year-level or above. Academic transcripts must clearly show that applicants have met this course load/level requirement.
  21. grinjo

    Chances?

    Starting off with a bit about me: Undergraduate in Canada Prospective GPA by end of semester: 3.57 MCAT: 520 ECs: - full time commitment to dance for 11 years - research, presentations, awards, no pubs - 3 service trips, 1 extensive global health study abroad - physician shadowing, hospital volunteering - prizes in public speaking, science fairs, scholarships - few executive positions, 1 president position of a major club - tutoring, jobs, fluent in few languages I will be applying after this semester, and my chances are very bleak at Canadian schools. That being said, I'm looking to open my horizons to some American schools. What are my chances, should I even apply this cycle? Or wait til the end of my degree to raise my GPA up significantly (it's been going up from a low start)? I know applying never hurts, but applications are time and money-consuming, so I'd rather have a bit more affirmation before proceeding.
  22. Hey folks, For those who've written cDAT today, how was it? I felt that PAT and RCT sections were bit hard, but bio/chem were pretty doable. If it wasn't your first time, how was it compared to the previous DAT version? Cheers
  23. Hi all, so my situation is as follows: cGPA 3.95 for past 3 years since im a 4th year undergrad 512 MCAT with (131,124,129,128) sections are listed in order they appear so 124 is the CARS. I've heard of people getting USMD interviews with scores like 12/7/14 on the old MCAT, just don't know how a 124 in the new MCAT is viewed. decent to average EC's like hospital volunteering, basic research, tutoring etc... Just wondering if I stand a good chance at an interview for USMD even if its a low tier school. Would appreciate any feedback. Also I'm thinking of applying with my score and rewriting the mcat AFTER submitting the AMCAS application to be competitive to Canadian schools. Thoughts on that? Also if my score improves (which I hope to do so especially in the CARS section, can I update the us med schools on my better score?) Thanks again!
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