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  1. Join us! The Pre-Medicine Diversity Symposium is an annual UBC faculty-sponsored event designed to encourage people from all walks of life to apply to medical school. This event is tailored to applicants who consider themselves ‘non-traditional’ for reasons that may include having a non-science background, applying later in life, having children and family, having financial or personal hardship, or belonging to a demographic underrepresented in medicine. There will be events at all 4 sites in BC - Vancouver, Kelowna, Victoria & Prince George. FB event: https://www.facebook.com/events/506704993595930/ Google Form RSVP (this confirms your registration): https://forms.gle/Rkgm2exxU4RaQTWi6
  2. Join us! The Pre-Medicine Diversity Symposium is an annual UBC faculty-sponsored event designed to encourage people from all walks of life to apply to medical school. This event is tailored to applicants who consider themselves ‘non-traditional’ for reasons that may include having a non-science background, applying later in life, having children and family, having financial or personal hardship, or belonging to a demographic underrepresented in medicine. There will be events at all 4 sites in BC - Vancouver, Kelowna, Victoria & Prince George. FB event: https://www.facebook.com/events/506704993595930/ Google Form RSVP (this confirms your registration): https://forms.gle/Rkgm2exxU4RaQTWi6
  3. Here is my unusual path to graduation (I don't know if GPA is calculated in the same way over all schools): Year 1: UBC - General Science --- Year 2: Université de Montréal - Neuroscience --- Years 3-5: Université de Montréal - Computer Science --- I would like to apply to medical school after my Master's (most likely ending in 2022), but I'm currently unsure where my best options lie. I realize that currently, my portfolio is not comptetitive. I would like to know if it can be made competitive, without doing a second bachelor's. Should I aim for Alberta schools in order to take advantage of my residency, and Quebec schools since the reserved out-of-province spots may have fewer applicants per spot? Should I get Quebec residency, as I have heard that their system is less competitive overall? Thank you in advance. Quick facts: I am currently on a gap year, starting a Working Holiday Visa abroad in November. In 2020/2021 I am planning to start a Master's in Artificial Intelligence, and I could try to focus my research on medical applications. I took 4 courses per semester in my CompSci degree. I did 1 research internship on autonomous vehicles, and 1 industry internship in industry. I am an Alberta resident, but could gain Quebec residency by working there for 1 year. I speak English and French fluently. For some schools, I am missing courses, for example, a second English course and Organic Chemistry. I believe I could get high grades on these courses were I to take them in preparation for applying. I have not taken the MCAT, but I would have time to study for and take it this fall. I have done some volunteer work, but none medical since second year. I was Vice President of a university cultural association for 4th and 5th year.
  4. I am determined to attend medical school in Canada. Would love any advice regarding the few options I have Currently studying for the MCAT and going into the fourth year of my honours Science undergrad- 1st year GPA 3.21 (technically 4.5 course load, including my initial grade and my improved grade for my 1 repeated course) 2nd year GPA 3.44 3rd year GPA 3.63 I'm assuming these are my options (based on years of obsessive research on forums lmao): 1) Do a 5th year. Attain 3.8+ in year 4 & 5. Apply to Western in my 5th year. If unsuccessful, complete a master's program. Apply again to Western and Queen's (perhaps Ottawa?) Any other schools I would have a chance at? 2) Do a second undergraduate degree and open up doors to other schools. Could do this after completing my degree in four years or after doing the additional 5th year. I am studying hard for the MCAT and would say I have unique ECs. I appreciate any honest insight (optimistic/pessimistic). Thank you in advance!
  5. I'm an anthropology major, and have no publications as of yet (hopefully soon but I'm not counting on it for next years application cycle). But I do have a fair amount of research and field experience in biological anthro (data collection, excavation, forensic recovery of human remains). Will this be viewed by adcoms the same as if it were, microbio research or something? Is all research viewed similarly or should I seek opportunities in, for example, my university's cancer cell lab?
  6. Does anyone have any experience navigating the course load discussions? It says you need to have taken 10 courses in your last two years of undergrad (so 5 each term). My program would split courses into double so they could squeeze more classes into our degree (ie. FSN 706 would be two classes on two different subjects and we'd get two different marks). I did what most students did and did all my electives in my last year part time. So... i don't meet that course load requirement. They said they will allow for it if your program is structured differently, but it's a B. Des, so I feel like they won't be familiar with it. Anyone ever navigate this? Wondering if/who I should maybe sit down with to discuss whether I'm even able to apply... I also graduated way back in 2013 if that matters and have an MA since then
  7. [deleted] Thank you for all those that commented. I appreciate all those that took the time to read it through.
  8. Hi all, I am currently an undergrad computer engineering student going into second year. During my first year, my GPA was 3.88 for the first half, but it dropped to 3.5 during the second half due to my health condition. I was unable to have a full course load during that time for the same reason. I am very interested in medical school, however, and I would like to take biomedical engineering for my minor during undergrad. For extracurricular activities, I am currently involved in three different clubs, but they are mostly academic/research oriented. I am also volunteering as an executive at a non-profit student organization, where we run programs at public libraries to teach children from underrepresented communities programming for free. I heard from other people that in order to meet academic prerequisites, I may need to take summer courses in chemistry and biology, given that computer engineering program at my school has a very full course load and I can not take them during fall/winter. During the next few years, I will also try my best to get involved in biomedical engineering related researches. But other than that, I am really lost right now, and do not know where to get started in order to plan for applying to med school. Specifically, I am very confused about a few things: 1) GPA. Given the current GPA I have earned during first year, the best I could do over the next three years would probably be bringing it back up to around 3.7~3.8. If that happens to be the case, do I still have a chance to get into medical school? Also, I am really worried about my not-full course load during the second semester of first year. Would that affect anything? Also, I have heard that first year GPA is not always considered for medical school applications. Is that true? 2) MCAT. I know that in order to get into medical school I need to take it, but I don't know when would be the best time to take it? Given that I have almost no biology/chemistry related courses until the 3rd year in my undergraduate program, how much time should I put into preparing for MCAT? 3) Volunteering/Extracurricular/Research/Employment. Should I focus on activities related to medical field? Or would engineering-related ones be okay? Any advices will be really appreciated! Thank you!
  9. Hey guys! This is a bit of a long post but it's my first time posting here and I wanted to be thorough, really just looking for some honest feedback as I am new to the pre-med thing I have only recently made the decision to try for medicine, and I just registered for the MCAT. Having not done a science degree I am wondering whether it is even worth it for me to dedicate my whole summer if the rest of my application wouldn't stand a chance but makes me feel hopeful even in spite of my average GPA and lack of sciences...But I'm worried it may not even be that great compared to most applicants. My stats: GPA: 82% AGPA (without my first year): 83.8% Degree: BSc Major: Psychology, Minor:Political Science MCAT: tba EC's: Quite a few but I basically had no idea what i wanted to do in my undergrad so I got involved in everything... ~4 years (200) hours on-going volunteering at a Suicide/Crisis support online service for youth 13-30 -Summer intern full-time and then intermittent volunteer at a Psychiatric Residential Facility on the old Riverview psychiatric Hospital grounds in Coquitlam.. there I supported the clients in their everyday activities as well as facilitated programs and helped the OT, RT team with programs. -2 years as an RA/Community Leader, with one of those years as a Residence Education Leader in an international themed community -Elected and served as a Director-at-Large on my uni's Student Society's Board of Directors...Once elected I focused on my main platform promise of implementing a student led mental health initiative on campus, which included both raising awareness and making mental health literacy training such as MHFA and ASIS for students more affordable, which in turn would help students be more able to help their peers. We got a grant Capital Savings and then organized ASIST training to students at a fraction of the regular price. Other initiatives I led that year or helped lead involved the first mental health week with different stigma-busting/awareness/wellness initiatives each day. -As a student union board member was also an active member on several committees and campaigns (usually geared Affordable education and Campus Sexualized Violence Awareness ), as well as sat in on University Senate committees on Learning & Teaching, Advisory Committee on Academic Accommodation and Access for students with disabilities and Student Mental Health Implementation Committee. -Volunteer and member of Global Community Advisory committee for 2 years -Sent to Jack.org Summit in Toronto, yearly student national conference for mental health promotion in 2015. Then the next year in my 4th year I co-founded a chapter of Jack.org chapter at my university and we received another $2000 grant to run big event during midterms called "Built-to-bear Exams" where we set up a huge station and offered students a chance to build their own stress kits and provided booklets with coping/stress-busting resources...This club however was only active for the semester since I left for 7 months on exchange to Australia/travelling Asia the next semester and had too heavy of a courseload in my 5th year when I returned. -Work study position for a semester with Student Affairs where I helped organize the student performance in my Uni's annual Mental Health key speaker event, as well as researched college mental health initiatives across Canada and the U.S -Currently I am and have been volunteering for the past 6 months at the Victoria Brain Injury Society where I co-facilitate the creative arts program and also help with administrative duties Awards: ~4-year 16k$ Academic Excellence entrance scholarship out of HS ~$2000 grant from the University for the following year to offer students more subsidized mental health training, this time for Mental Health First Aid which occured the following year. ~700$ bursary from the Lorne Fraser Education Fund for those pursuing a career in Mental Health A little bit of background regarding my decision to try medicine...I started university studying Political Science, but through work / volunteer and personal experience developed a passion for the mental health field so I switched to Psychology. I was initially thinking of going into counseling/social work, but after spending a summer working at a psychiatric facility and having a family member hospitalized for recurring psychosis, I developed a deep interest the medical treatment of psychiatric illness and started thinking about psychiatry. Having said that, I have not done sciences in about 5-6 years at that point, having not done super well in them in HS...Thus in the middle of my 4th year I decided to stay an extra year and switch into the BSc Psychology stream to get some exposure to science courses. Having said that, I have not done sciences in about 5-6 years at that point, having not done as well well in them in HS. This year I ended up taking 6 courses each semester and upgraded my math 12, then took first year biology, chemistry and organic chemistry - it was a bit of a tough learning curve after 4 years of Arts courses , and i got a 74/76 in chem/ochem and 78/83 in bio.. which brought down my AGPA but 2%, but at least I knew I could tackle the sciences needed to write the MCAT. Plus, this year made me actually fall in love with science after getting fed up 7 years ago in HS and decided i wasn't smart enough for them. I guess my question at this point is.. should I do more course work in the sciences before applying and trying to do the mcat... for example, I haven't done physics since science 10 and was hoping to self-teach this summer..Should I just study what I can this summer and apply? I think my EC's are quite extensive, but is it what medical schools are looking for? Sorry for all the questions. If there is any other pertinent information that might be needed to assess my situation, please let me know! I really appreciate anyone reading this super long post .
  10. Alright, this might be a long(ish) post so bear with me... I need some advice Stats: Rejected post-interview IP 2016/17 AGPA: 83.** with upward trend AQ: 20.** NAQ: 34.** MCAT: 510-512 Interview: Avg Non-traditional Completed BSc ECs: lots of various volunteering, music, athletics, leadership positions, publication, etc... a couple long-term commitments; have held many employment positions. Special note: I have never had a full courseload due to working obligations. I was rejected this cycle (WAHHHHH ) and now have to craft my plan-of-attack for the coming cycle as well as the following if I don't get in, again. Most of the course-related stuff won't affect my GPA until 2018/19 cycle but may show full course-load ability for 2017/18 cycle (which is one of my app's weaknesses). During the holistic file-review post-interview do you think admissions would look at completed coursework for that year to see I successfully completed it and it was a full load? Though it won't affect #'s per se, could it contribute to removing doubt about my perceived application weakness? Are TRU-OL courses considered for GPA calculations? Course-load concerns? Will any other schools consider TRU-OL? I'd like to branch out to other provinces for applying but the way I had my courses structured made it pointless... I am looking at taking two certificate programs as well as 2 random courses, in a five 3-credit course arrangement per 'semester' (ie: Sept-Dec and Jan-Apr). The first certificate is Medical Laboratory Assistant and requires five 3 credit courses and a non-credit workshop. I would do this from Sept to Dec 2017. The second certificate is the Polysomnography Certificate and only requires three 3 credit courses and a non-credit placement but I would add in BIOL 3701 and another online course (UBC online or TRU-OL any suggestions?) taken between Jan and Apr 2018. Has anyone taken these programs, courses similar or any courses through TRU-OL? How is the grading - fair? easy? difficult? I am aiming for all A/A+'s as anything less would be detrimental to my application. I like the idea of these programs because the courses seem interesting and medically relevant and also the certificates could lead to jobs in the meantime, though I already have a few jobs . The original idea was to take a year of five-course semesters of medically-relevant 3-credit courses (10 classes) at UBC as UNCL.... but those go towards nothing (other than gpa) and are a waste of money in the end in that way... Would UBC admissions consider my TRU-OL arrangement to be full course-load? Would other med schools in Canada consider this to be full course-load? Should I do a full year of 'full course-load' or would one semester suffice? I am erring on the side of a full year (plus Polysomnography seems interesting!) The reason for taking online courses is that I live far from UBC Vancouver and UBC doesn't offer any certificate programs like these, and if it does they aren't really available online. I wasn't able to find any at BCIT that fit what I am looking for... there are a few but I am not sure that the way they offer their distance courses would be amenable to making a "full course-load" (it seems designed to rigidly adhere to a P/T schedule). I have a job where I can study while being paid so was considering that I'd be able to complete these courses while still making money to live. Even if I wasn't working, the online option works better purely for the fact that I live far away and it will save me so much time in commuting that I can put towards studying. How can I improve my NAQ? I felt pretty good about my interview and had positive feedback while practicing from others who had either been accepted or who had themselves obtained an "above average" interview score. How do I improve this section? Thank you all in advance for your input! PS: I just discovered the emoticons
  11. Hi, I'm in my 4th year at UofT and am about to graduate with a gpa that's not competitive for dentistry schools. I became interested in a career in dentistry during the end of my 3rd year but by that time it was really difficult to pull my gpa up . I've always wanted a career in health and I like hands on work, so dentistry works perfectly. The thing is, I dont know what to do at this point because my gpa (2.8) is going to prevent me from getting accepted anywhere. I don't want to give up and can't give up because my parents went through a lot for us to come to Canada and have put all their trust in us doing well. So, I have to find a way. For the moment, I'm considering doing a masters degree, but I dont know much about that path. Can I get a masters in any field, for example, in undergrad my highest courses were in Near and Middle Eastern history or would I have to get a masters in biology or similar to allow me to increase my science gpa? I'm also considering getting a second degree, however, I know this path is risky because even after 4 more years, there's a chance I might not get in. So, I'm considering getting a second degree that would leave me with good work options after graduating so if I dont get in after applying to dentistry schools then, I won't be out of work. Lastly, it would be more than amazing if someone would be willing to mentor me or provide guidance. Since I'd like to eventual go to UofT's dentistry school (fingers-crossed!!) it would be great if a UofT dentistry student can help out, but I'd definitely appreciate help from students in other dentistry schools as well! Any help would be appreciated!!! Thanks!!
  12. I had been working since high school (grade 11) to save up for the cost of a University education in a lab on campus. While I loved my job as a research assistant (and it is the reason I stumbled into/discovered university), I did my undergraduate degree in engineering, and the course load/curriculum seemed so difficult for me while balancing trying to have enough income to support myself, and contribute to my family (this required about 15 -30 hr/wk). Unfortunately, I graduated my engineering degree with only a 3.5/4.0 GPA. On the plus side, I did get a few second/third author publications (8, during undergrad while working) and 1 first author publication (during masters). I did a masters to attempt to better myself as an engineer and potential MD applicant, and ended up with a UBC average of 90% (GPA 3.9/4, from 6 courses + thesis work) and won a few awards (NSERC CGSM, and a few institutional awards). Right now I am working for a start up, and taking online University courses (under open studies) in biology, biochem, and physiology/anatomy. My parents are doing much better now so I no longer need to support them financially, and have more time to study even while working half (sometimes full) time, and am earning around 95%'s on my midterms. My concern is that I took so many courses during my undergrad in engineering (140 credits +), that the heavy nature of my undergrad has permanently soiled me as an applicant by drastically weighting my grades as low. I am looking to write my MCAT this upcoming summer and am wondering what score I should strive for given the low nature of my GPA and the fact my extracurricular activity seems a bit odd. Also, is taking the 4 courses and a good MCAT score enough, or should I consider not being open studies but rather do a second bachelors in sciences? Also, do you have any ideas on what schools I would have a marginal shot in applying to? (I am still on Alberta care). My volunteering probably isn't that great compared to other applicants because initially I was super education focused as opposed to care oriented: -WiSEST, Women in Scholarship, Engineering, Science & Technology, direct supervisor/mentor (320 hrs) -volunteer self defence/fitness karate instructor (500+ hrs) -demonstration leader for engineering and science high school outreach (75 hr) -student secretary/chairs/committee member for various engineering student societies and groups (total 250+ hr) -needle exchange, drug harm reduction volunteer (50 hr), ongoing -radiology/hospital volunteer (50 hr), ongoing -one on one wellness visitor for elderly (20 hr), ongoing My recent volunteer work with vulnerable populations has really re-ignited my suppressed dream of becoming a doctor. If I could manage to get in... the idea of practising medicine from an engineering perspective really excites me. I realise that there are oceans of far more qualified people, and only a few spots, so I do sincerely appreciate your honest insight. Thank you.
  13. Hey everyone, So here's the dilemma: I've sustained a (few) relatively serious head injuries, and had to take time off school for the second time in my undergrad career (First time I needed to pretty much take the entire 2015-2016 school year off to recover - this time I've had to take the fall 2016 term off). Currently only partway through 3rd year because of that (co-op program made my scheduling very strange). My grades from the first 2 years are not near what they need to be (think mid/low 3's in terms of GPA). Towards my 3A term I was getting the hang of things (closer to 3.8 for that term) and when I started my 3B term this fall, I was doing relatively well until I had to drop my classes. I've had a few concussions now and haven't completely recovered - I'm about 50-60% there. However, the last bit of recovery (constant headaches, vision/balance problems, focusing and memory) have all taken months to recover in the past. I went and spoke to a neurologist at Mac about my situation - he recommended I take the rest of the year off and focus on getting better (no point in running on a broken leg, etc, etc possibly change programs if I felt the program was holding me down). He was a nice guy - spent a fair amount of time going through the med process & how I should approach my recovery. At this point, I have to consider taking classes in the winter term. I'm not sure how'd I'd do in them - but sitting at home feeling sorry for myself is driving me crazy. Moreso, my parents are asking me to do something with my time, I've marked it down to the following: 1. work (find a job on 3 weeks notice?? I have work experience because of co-op, but no more co-op terms unfortunately) 2. prep for school next term (winter 2017) 3. study for the MCAT. 4. rest for 2-3 months then do one of the above if well enough I'm not sure if I'm ready to go back to school just yet - seeing how the schools I'm eyeing won't look at this year unless I also do summer courses (I'm pretty sure queens/western don't accept summer courses for their 2-year GPA). I'm gunning for Western/Queens/Dal/Ottawa. Planning on Graduating in 2019 or 2020 (giving me 2-3 more years of undergrad if everything goes well). Sorry for long post, thanks for the advice in advance. The head is still a bit iffy, so I apologize if this read like a rant. tl;dr - Had a few concussions currently suffering from post-concussive syndrome - Had to drop all my classes for 2nd time in undergrad because of this (recurring) - Options are: work, study for mcat, or continue with school (will only have 5 courses by end of school year unless summer courses - I'm in a co-op program so UofT will count as a complete year at least) - First 2 years were trash (lol UofT), trying for 2 & 3-year schools
  14. It's been a year since I've last lurked. I finally have the courage and circumstances compelling me to post. I'm currently 27, a Canadian citizen, and considering to do a second UG and to pursue a professional medical degree, ideally medical school. I did an undergrad originally in a very competitive program but switched out to complete a degree in economics. My marks were affected by some personal and medical issues that, in combination with immaturity and poor study habits, forced me to switch out with me seeing through with graduating. Thus, my first UG GPA is abysmal and around a B; enough for me to consider doing an MBA at lower-tier universities like Laurier. However, I cannot see myself staying any longer in accounting. I managed to accumulate 2-3 years working in the accounting field, but I strongly feel that it is not the right path for me to take after so many years of studying and experiencing the workplace. I understand that I am at a point where I am doing a second UG out of necessity, but also fulfilling my dream of possibly becoming a doctor now that I have matured as an individual and ready for a second shot at my academics. Although it means very little, it has been a dream of mine since I was a small boy to become a doctor. I also spent a summer with a team of medical professionals providing emergency care to destitute villages, and thoroughly enjoyed working with such an intense and passionate group of people. Am I being delusional? Does where I complete my undergrad matter (i.e. York vs UT?) Should I even consider doing the LSAT/GMAT at this point? I feel under the circumstances, my parents are still able and willing to help with their ties at their hospitals by connecting me with the right people for ECs. They had also considered sending me to the University of Victoria to do my undergrad, as some of my family relatives may be able to network me with EC opportunities and provide the proper guidance. The least I can do is thank you in advance for your advice. It is much appreciated.
  15. Hello, I have a few questions about the medical school at the University of Sherbrooke: 1) How open is it to "non-traditional" applicants? 2) I received my BSc from McGill in 2005 and have extensive work experience in the pharmaceutical industry. Am I obliged to apply in the "marche du travail" category or can I apply in the regular Quebec university category? 3) Are there a limited number of spots in the "marche du travail" category? Thank you in advance.
  16. Hi There, I have a rather specific question regarding obtaining a second-degree. Here is a brief overview of my academic history to help clarify my question: I graduated with distinction in May 2014 from Tyndale University College and Seminary (Toronto, ON) BA Psychology, double major English, 3.75 CGPA -- with a 3.9 to 4.0/4.0 on all but one psychology course over the 4 year program I had planned to enroll as a non-degree student to the University of Toronto to take some additional science courses and ensure that I meet all of the required prerequisite courses for applying to Medical School. However, after being accepted into the non-degree program, I received the following news from U of T: "Thank you for your interest in the MD Program. Tyndale College does not appear to be accredited by the Association of Universities & Colleges of Canada. As such, we cannot accept degrees or courses from that institution....Your best option would be to enter a Bachelor’s degree program at a university that is by the Association of Universities & Colleges of Canada. You may be able to get some transfer credits based on the work that you completed at Tyndale." I love school - so as discouraging as this news was, I am up for the challenge. I have been working on applications for Western University and the University of Toronto, -- and have been assured that my credits will transfer to an undergraduate program in neuroscience (my favourite subject!) -- but wondered if anyone might have some additional insight regarding: A) Potential ways to circumvent this issue B ) Whether other MD programs (aside from U of T) might still accept my current degree (I am currently looking into this) C) If anyone else has had a similar problem, how they have overcome this challenge Thank you for your assistance and support! - Laura
  17. Hello, I am a 34 year old planning to apply to medical school this year and I'm wondering which Canadian medical schools have a good reputation for accepting non-traditional applicants? I know that there is technically not supposed to be any age discrimination but I was just wondering if there are some schools that are more open to non-traditional applicants than others. Thanks in advance.
  18. Hello, My main question is this: I want to take a 5th year of undergraduate after I complete my business degree this summer. This is because I need to take physics, org chem, and biochem. My GPA is 3.87 (converted from UVic) so I am not taking the 5th year for GPA reasons. However, I have seen that some med schools dont like people taking 5th year courses that do not contribute towards a degree. Would I be falling into this category? TL;DR: Will graduate with business degree in summer with high GPA Need prerequisites Will medical schools accept my prerequisites if i take them in a 5th year that does not count towards a second degree? Thanks a lot guys!
  19. We are pleased to announce the UBC Pre-Med Diversity Symposium 2014! This MD student run event sponsored by the Faculty of Medicine. The UBC Pre-Med Diversity Symposium is an annual event designed to educate future applicants about medical school. The event is geared toward those individuals who may consider themselves ‘non-traditional’ applicants. Reasons for considering oneself non-traditional include a non-science background, a difficult family or financial background, recent immigration to Canada, aboriginal ancestry, parenthood and career changes. The event is run by current UBC medical students with the support of the UBC faculty of medicine. The event will take place Sunday, November 16th 2014 10:00 AM to 4:30 PM in Vancouver, Victoria, Prince George and Kelowna. Traditional applicants - please be on the lookout for future events more geared towards your needs! Sunday, November 16th, 2014 –10:00 am to 4:30 pm (Lunch will be provided.) Vancouver: Medical Student Alumni Centre (2750 Heather St) Victoria: University of Victoria Medical Sciences Building (3800 Finnerty Rd), Room 131 Prince George: Donald Rix Northern Health Sciences Centre (3333 University Way), Room 9-370 Kelowna: Kelowna General Hospital (2268 Pandosy St), Room 228 Please RSVP by November 7th, 2014 with your name, site you will attend, and any dietary restrictions. e-mail: premed.diversity@gmail.com Pre-med Poster 2014 - web.pdf
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