jlkhhylyiluh6 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 https://www.carms.ca/pdfs/5drz57PbwqT_R1_1_OverviewByDiscipline_EN.pdf what an absolutely brutal match...almost no IM or psych spots in round 2. Good luck to those that are going through it! TTPP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freewheeler Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Brutal match is right. Best of luck to anyone who went unmatched today. Seriously this CaRMS thing is getting crazier every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la marzocco Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 58 minutes ago, beeboop said: https://www.carms.ca/pdfs/5drz57PbwqT_R1_1_OverviewByDiscipline_EN.pdf what an absolutely brutal match...almost no IM or psych spots in round 2. Good luck to those that are going through it! I'm interested to see how the continued streaming for CMG- and IMG-spots for Ontario & Alberta schools will play out for the 2nd iteration. Will it really improve the unmatched situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedP111 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Heard from other people in my class that 26 people went unmatched this year at McGill. Don't know how reliable this is though. But assuming this is true, given a class size of about 190, this is about a 14% unmatch rate. That's pretty scary, especially since things seem to be just getting worse every year, and the pace seems to be picking up. Honestly quite concerned what things will be like when the students just starting out now get to their CaRMS year... hopefullyafuturedoc, COMMANDO and tenosynovitis 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuniorDr90 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 I have a question, if anyone went through this can help me out. I was unmatched today yet some of the programs I applied to were unfilled. My question is If i’m applying again to the second iteration, what changed ? My application is pretty much the same ... so what should I do to get matched in the 2nd iteration? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freewheeler Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, JuniorDr90 said: I have a question, if anyone went through this can help me out. I was unmatched today yet some of the programs I applied to were unfilled. My question is If i’m applying again to the second iteration, what changed ? My application is pretty much the same ... so what should I do to get matched in the 2nd iteration? Honestly, no idea. I think in these situations your UME office and deans/advisors who have helped students in similar predicaments in the past may be your best resource. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuniorDr90 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, freewheeler said: Honestly, no idea. I think in these situations your UME office and deans/advisors who have helped students in similar predicaments in the past may be your best resource. I’m an IMG. So .... ?? May be if someone was in the same situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bearded frog Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, JuniorDr90 said: I’m an IMG. So .... ?? May be if someone was in the same situation? I would apply again. For whatever reason they didn’t rank you, however their math changes in the second round, and perhaps they will cast a wider net. JuniorDr90 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamcometrue Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Anyone know why Ottawa had 19 unfilled spots in FM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamham Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 27 minutes ago, dreamcometrue said: Anyone know why Ottawa had 19 unfilled spots in FM? They are very selective in who they interview and rank. Not every applicant gets an interview at Ottawa, and they don't rank every candidate. Same for Calgary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleDaisy Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, hamham said: They are very selective in who they interview and rank. Not every applicant gets an interview at Ottawa, and they don't rank every candidate. Same for Calgary. Agreed, that's what I heard when I interviewed for Ottawa's FM program. A program is not obliged to fill all its spots if they don't find the ideal candidate that they are looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F508 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, JuniorDr90 said: I have a question, if anyone went through this can help me out. I was unmatched today yet some of the programs I applied to were unfilled. My question is If i’m applying again to the second iteration, what changed ? My application is pretty much the same ... so what should I do to get matched in the 2nd iteration? Hard to predict.. I know someone who applied for a small program, rejected 1st iteration, re-applied 2nd iteration. Did not get in. I know someone else who applied to a large program. Was rejected first round. Accepted in second round. Depends why they didn't choose you first round, if they really need to fill the spots second round, other candidates... Too hard to predict.. I'd say apply, you have nothing to lose JuniorDr90 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonwalker2099 Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 2 hours ago, JuniorDr90 said: I’m an IMG. So .... ?? May be if someone was in the same situation? It blows chunks dude. I'm also an IMG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuniorDr90 Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, moonwalker2099 said: It blows chunks dude. I'm also an IMG. It just surprises me that some programs would rather have all their positions unfilled than rank IMGs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shematoma Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, JuniorDr90 said: It just surprises me that some programs would rather have all their positions unfilled than rank IMGs... There are plenty of CMGs unmatched and one more round to go. It will not go unfilled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleS Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 Those unfilled Ottawa FM spots are CMG spots, and this year, they will only be available to unmatched CMGs. It's a desirable location so I suspect they will not be unfilled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sangria Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 I wonder if those spots are meant for their own unmatched students... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemPetE Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 Doubt that that’s the case. Brutal match though, these are some super tight numbers. I definitely feel for this era of students where things are so competitive. As an aside, rad onc filled 100% this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrouchoMarx Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 30 minutes ago, JuniorDr90 said: It just surprises me that some programs would rather have all their positions unfilled than rank IMGs... Some of those path programs would take a blind monkey. If you're desperate, try pathology. Desperate FMGs are the norm. That's why pathology is by and large the only medical field that's primary filled with salaried employees. Desperate people take shitty deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comprehensible Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, sWOMEN said: What an awful year - barely anything left over in the 2nd iteration - can't wait to see the decimation when the full stats are released on the website; anyone know when that might be? Is there any chance the reason fewer spots are left over is because more people matched in the first round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuniorDr90 Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 43 minutes ago, shematoma said: There are plenty of CMGs unmatched and one more round to go. It will not go unfilled. So what does it mean for a program to be competitive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la marzocco Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 25 minutes ago, sWOMEN said: What an awful year - barely anything left over in the 2nd iteration - can't wait to see the decimation when the full stats are released on the website; anyone know when that might be? Normally comes out in early/mid-April when the CaRMS Forum happens. Need to wait until 2nd iteration is done first. DrMeme 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la marzocco Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, JuniorDr90 said: So what does it mean for a program to be competitive? "Competitive" in 2nd iteration means that CMGs and IMGs compete for the same unfilled positions, which is not the case in first iteration where the streams are separate. This is for most provinces' unfilled spots (minus Ontario and Alberta which have decided to keep the streaming in 2nd iteration this year, may become a going forward thing with more provinces on board in the future). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la marzocco Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, sWOMEN said: Good on Ontario and Alberta, no IMG should be matched before CMG in my opinion. I don't know why there is no advocacy for a CMG only first iteration Also any reason why Quebec including McGill is Regular instead of CMG/IMG/Both? Quebec is the only province that does not do the whole IMG/CMG streaming thing. 3 of the 4 medical schools in Quebec are francophone so the language barrier itself a big deterrence for IMGs to apply unless they are francophone - so you don't see a lot of IMGs applying to them anyways so streaming is not necessary. McGill is interesting in that you can technically be an IMG and still apply and be in the running for the positions that CMGs apply for, but there is a relatively more complicated equivalence process: https://www.carms.ca/match/r-1-main-residency-match/faculty-programs/eligibility-criteria-r1/ (under IMGs applying to Quebec). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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