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Q about Carms USMDs & Imgs

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Hey there, 

 

First off a disclaimer that this isnt meant to cause a heated argument and this isnt comjng from a place of malice intentions.

 

I am just curious about USMDs in the CARMS process. Ive read threads about the hate IMGs receive for entering the CARMS match but Ive yet to read anyone push for restrictions on USMDs when there are accredited schools within the US with lower acceptance criteria/competition than almost all Canadian schools. 

 

Hypothetical question as I dont know how many USMDs apply to CARMS each year but wouldnt incorporating them into international students category help alleviate the stress of CMGs to match to canadian res programs as there would atleast be some decrease in competition? 

 

Again, just curious about this so sorry if anything comes across as ignorant or uninformed. Would like to understand this better.

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Very few USMDs are matching through CaRMS. Making this change would not have an impact overall on the unmatched CMG situation.

Last year, only 37 USMDs participated in CaRMS, 22 of whom matched. For context, 1725 IMGs participated, taking 391 residency spots. 103 CMGs were unmatched. On the flip side, 30 CMGs applied for NRMP, 13 of whom matched. 

https://www.carms.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/2019_r1_tbl1e.pdf

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On 6/20/2019 at 6:50 AM, Jummyneutrondexter said:

Hey there, 

 

First off a disclaimer that this isnt meant to cause a heated argument and this isnt comjng from a place of malice intentions.

 

I am just curious about USMDs in the CARMS process. Ive read threads about the hate IMGs receive for entering the CARMS match but Ive yet to read anyone push for restrictions on USMDs when there are accredited schools within the US with lower acceptance criteria/competition than almost all Canadian schools. 

 

Hypothetical question as I dont know how many USMDs apply to CARMS each year but wouldnt incorporating them into international students category help alleviate the stress of CMGs to match to canadian res programs as there would atleast be some decrease in competition? 

 

Again, just curious about this so sorry if anything comes across as ignorant or uninformed. Would like to understand this better.

Just so we are clear, getting into a USMD school is hard for non visa holders. Yes obviously its slightly easier than some* places in Canada, otherwise those applicants would've gotten into canada maybe*  Most people who get into a USMD are competitive. Many people who dont get into Canadian med schools are competitive but often unlucky. We just have a hyper competitive system due to so few seats. You shouldn't try to draw too many conclusions from this :)

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