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Hi there!

I have been contemplating doing a new degree for a while but I am leaning more towards the idea of NOT doing a new degree.  I am posting this thread to see if my reasoning of deciding not to do a new degree makes sense (and doesn't just make sense to me). So I am open to any advice you guys have and would really appreciate it.

I am in my 30s and my cGPA is 3.4 (which is very low). But, my AGPA for schools that consider specific undergraduate years is very high, which is why I am leaning towards NOT doing a new degree.

For example: 

- I am an SWOMEN applicant and my GPA for UWO is 3.99

- My GPA for Queens university (most recent 2 years) is 4.0

- My GPA for Ottawa U (3 years) is 3.855 (which is actually pretty low for IP English stream).

- My GPA for Calgary (with dropping my oldest undergrad GPA after 10 years) is around 3.85, which will continue to get higher every year as more years are dropped based on the 10 yr rule.

 

I'm really trying to see if my logic of not doing a new degree makes sense. I keep seeing the 3.4 and I keep thinking that if I do a new degree, I would be able to apply to more schools. But realistically, the schools that are missing (Mac and Toronto) won't disregard my first undergraduate degree and at best, my GPA for both degrees would accumulate to 3.7-3.8, which still isn't crazy competitive for Toronto. Plus, if I do a new degree, my AGPA might end up lower for the schools listed above (3.97 instead of 3.99 or 4.0), which might be risky. 

Should I just focus on UWO (SWOMEN), Queens, and Calgary, (and maybe Ottawa) with my high AGPA? or should I just do a new degree?

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your cGPA of 3.4 is meaningless. People have gotten in with lower cGPA's, of course assuming that their specific wGPA is high enough for that specific school. Your wGPA is good to go for UWO, Queens, and UofC. The cutoff for Ottawa English stream is 3.87, so you do not meet that. So, I would just try and shoot my shot for those 3 schools, good luck. 

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18 minutes ago, YesIcan55 said:

your cGPA of 3.4 is meaningless. People have gotten in with lower cGPA's, of course assuming that their specific wGPA is high enough for that specific school. Your wGPA is good to go for UWO, Queens, and UofC. The cutoff for Ottawa English stream is 3.87, so you do not meet that. So, I would just try and shoot my shot for those 3 schools, good luck. 

Thank you for your response :). The cut off for Ottawa IP English is 3.85, I called this year and asked Diane before I applied (every penny counts for me).

Good luck to you too! 

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47 minutes ago, ABCD13 said:

Bump ** wanting to hear other opinions / advice :)

Might receive more feedback if you shared your MCAT, extracurriculars, or personal circumstances that would apply to any special programs (Ottawa's Social Accountability Initiative, Western's ACCESS pathway, being indigenous or black). Sorry if you've already shared and I'm not seeing it

 

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31 minutes ago, conbrio said:

Might receive more feedback if you shared your MCAT, extracurriculars, or personal circumstances that would apply to any special programs (Ottawa's Social Accountability Initiative, Western's ACCESS pathway, being indigenous or black). Sorry if you've already shared and I'm not seeing it

 

Hi Conbrio!

I DM'd you my ECs (they're super specific so I didn't want to post them on here). 

My biggest concern is letting go of my SWOMEN 4.0 GPA for a new degree where I might get a 3.93 for example instead of a 4.0 for Western.

Only reason I am considering a new degree is for Ottawa (my 3.855 is a no-go) and for McGill (since now I am considered IP). 

Hope that makes sense .. :)

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If you are also in your 30s now you have to consider whether you think this is worth it if you do another undergrad 

 

add on 3-4 years of that and then 4 years of medical college and then residency being 2-6 years and you could be a long way out and at that point is this even worth it?

 

a better option would be to apply on your own strengths now and have a backup plan in place (ie PA, etc)

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On 12/30/2019 at 11:29 AM, Raptors905 said:

If you are also in your 30s now you have to consider whether you think this is worth it if you do another undergrad 

 

add on 3-4 years of that and then 4 years of medical college and then residency being 2-6 years and you could be a long way out and at that point is this even worth it?

 

a better option would be to apply on your own strengths now and have a backup plan in place (ie PA, etc)

My age is definitely something I have considered! But after careful consideration... my age (and the length of time to achieve this) doesn't really daunt me since I genuinely love school. :)

I would only need 2 years for a new degree, but you are right, this entire process  would take a long time and a large chunk out of my life.

But I guess I don't mind that. I'm already married and my partner and I both long ago decided on not having any children. So basically... My only focus is to do what I love since I don't really have anything else that I have to consider (such as children.. finding the one, etc). I also have the financial support of my partner as well for me to go back to school full-time, etc. So I guess I'm not sure what would stop me from doing it, you know? I rather be in my late 30's with my dream job vs. any other job. :)

But yes, age is definitely a factor to consider but given my situation, I try to not let it get to me so much (a little hard sometimes, ha :P ) 

 

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3 hours ago, ABCD13 said:

My age is definitely something I have considered! But after careful consideration... my age (and the length of time to achieve this) doesn't really daunt me since I genuinely love school. :)

I would only need 2 years for a new degree, but you are right, this entire process  would take a long time and a large chunk out of my life.

But I guess I don't mind that. I'm already married and my partner and I both long ago decided on not having any children. So basically... My only focus is to do what I love since I don't really have anything else that I have to consider (such as children.. finding the one, etc). I also have the financial support of my partner as well for me to go back to school full-time, etc. So I guess I'm not sure what would stop me from doing it, you know? I rather be in my late 30's with my dream job vs. any other job. :)

But yes, age is definitely a factor to consider but given my situation, I try to not let it get to me so much (a little hard sometimes, ha :P ) 

 

If I can ask how do you know this is your dream job? Or in particular what is exactly - being a surgeon? Or GP? Or radiologist. 
 

it sounds like your partner has a good job, you don’t want kids so you may as well just work. Although depending on what you chose it’s a lot of studying and long hours and nights. 
 

it’s one thing to start med school in your thirties - it’s another to go do an undergrad again with no guarantee of admission. 
 

I would just encourage you to think if there is another career path (even as a backup) that you could be happy doing that doesn’t require as many hoops that are uncertain or time to achieve. Honestly - medicine isn’t that great compared to everything else 

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