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Anesthesia FR challenging CCFP EM??


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I know there a few people out there that have dual certs in Anesthesia and Emerg - but most have done two entire residencies - or done emerg first as a CCFP - EM and then done anesthesia.

 

Does anyone out there know if it is possible for an FR Anesthesiologist to challenge the CCFP-EM exam the same way a family doc can? Or is it a problem because they are different colleges?

 

 

Seems reasonable to me that an FR anesthesiologist who completed their first year as a "rotating intern" (most programs still have R1 year is still pretty general) - should be able to challenge a CCFP-EM exam if they take enough Emerg electives and somehow gain some experience in Emerg - just not sure if it is technically possible/if the paperwork and bureaucracy would be navigable.

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An FR anesthesiologist would be great for CTAS I/II stuff with their training, but you'd probably have to do a lot of extra training in peds, psych, OBGYN and IM and of course emerg before they'd consider it.

 

If you do anesthesia in Canada your first year is very general giving you a similar amount of psych and OB as first year family residents isn't it? The. In the next four years you would have considerably more icu and internal experience as a family doc and considerably more procedural skills and CTAS skills but I agree you may be lacking a bit in the psych and general bumps and bruises category but don't you think you could more than make up for this in a plus one year while the family docs are scrambling to catch up on all the acute stuff that you would be an ace at already? Just seems that it would be easier to turn an anesthesiologist into a safe and effective emerg doc in one year than a family doc. It would just require slightly different extra training.

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If you do anesthesia in Canada your first year is very general giving you a similar amount of psych and OB as first year family residents isn't it? The. In the next four years you would have considerably more icu and internal experience as a family doc and considerably more procedural skills and CTAS skills but I agree you may be lacking a bit in the psych and general bumps and bruises category but don't you think you could more than make up for this in a plus one year while the family docs are scrambling to catch up on all the acute stuff that you would be an ace at already? Just seems that it would be easier to turn an anesthesiologist into a safe and effective emerg doc in one year than a family doc. It would just require slightly different extra training.

That's a good point..well I think a +1 year would be all that you'd realistically need.

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Brooksbane,

 

I read with interest your thread about being unsatisfied with your imminent career as an attending in an unnamed specialty. You also have strong opinions on the absurdity of the residency system that prevents specialists from practicing family med if they choose.

 

If you were able (i.e. if hypothetically you had trained under the old system), given your current view on your career, would you have gone into family medicine?

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I would have practiced as a GP for a few years before specializing. As it stands I picked the wrong thing, and I don't feel like I had enough time to make a wise, informed decision. The old system would have allowed me to at least pay off my student loans, learn more about real medicine to find a true interest in it, and also provide multiple opportunities for retraining so as not to be stuck as a GP indefinitely.

 

I would have liked the locuming during retraining residency so that you could have some extra cash to help pay down some debt.

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I would have practiced as a GP for a few years before specializing. As it stands I picked the wrong thing, and I don't feel like I had enough time to make a wise, informed decision. The old system would have allowed me to at least pay off my student loans, learn more about real medicine to find a true interest in it, and also provide multiple opportunities for retraining so as not to be stuck as a GP indefinitely.

 

Can't agree more with this!

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