BAMFtastic Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Hey Everyone, If some of you could take some time and help me, I'd really appreciate it! I have heard that dermatology is one of the only specialities which requires work from day one to get a residency. These are my questions: 1. What electives and rotations are good to take? 2. What extra curriculars would you suggest? (Jobs, Clubs, etc) 3. Where are the best residencies for Derm and why? 4. Did you know? .... You're the best (: P.s. I know many people say that you should go in with and open mind and pick a field afterwards. I am willing to do so, but I have had a lot of personal struggles with skin disorders and find the topic very interesting. Thanks for all your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLengr Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Hey Everyone, If some of you could take some time and help me, I'd really appreciate it! I have heard that dermatology is one of the only specialities which requires work from day one to get a residency. These are my questions: 1. What electives and rotations are good to take? 2. What extra curriculars would you suggest? (Jobs, Clubs, etc) 3. Where are the best residencies for Derm and why? 4. Did you know? .... You're the best (: P.s. I know many people say that you should go in with and open mind and pick a field afterwards. I am willing to do so, but I have had a lot of personal struggles with skin disorders and find the topic very interesting. Thanks for all your help! 1. Derm, Derm, more Derm. Face time matters a great deal for small competitive residencies. There is a an element of connections and gamesmanship that plays a role. The more Derm people you know, and who know you, the better your chances. 2. Derm research. I don't think clubs or jobs would really matter (at least they don't matter in my competitive surgical subspecialty residency). The most important things to matching to competitive programs, especially small ones is: 1. You're a very hard worker 2. The program likes you and you fit in. They would want to work with you for 5 years. 3. You have a good knowledge of the material for a med student and are reasonably bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porsche Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 1. Derm, Derm, more Derm. Face time matters a great deal for small competitive residencies. There is a an element of connections and gamesmanship that plays a role. The more Derm people you know, and who know you, the better your chances. 2. Derm research. I don't think clubs or jobs would really matter (at least they don't matter in my competitive surgical subspecialty residency). The most important things to matching to competitive programs, especially small ones is: 1. You're a very hard worker 2. The program likes you and you fit in. They would want to work with you for 5 years. 3. You have a good knowledge of the material for a med student and are reasonably bright. Great post, NLengr. I guess the question now is: What do you do if you don't make the cut after all that hard work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLengr Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Great post, NLengr. I guess the question now is: What do you do if you don't make the cut after all that hard work? You do whatever specialty you backed up with and matched to. You can try to switch during residency but odds are that won't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAMFtastic Posted March 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 I guess it would be possible to do another year of reasearch/shadowing in order to increase face time and then re-apply the year after. Or is that a bad idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLengr Posted March 2, 2013 Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 I guess it would be possible to do another year of reasearch/shadowing in order to increase face time and then re-apply the year after. Or is that a bad idea? Possible, but probably not the best idea. Generally people who do that are looked on as damaged goods at match time for MOST specialties (I think optho is an exception). Check with a few derm residents to see what the scoop is. CaRMS is a one shot deal essentially. That's why everyone stresses so much about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemogoblin Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 Do you hear many success stories of people matching to term after only deciding they wanted it in clerkship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemogoblin Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Nope. 10char That's so unfortunate. Preceptors keep telling me to have an open mind and try everything, but that just doesn't seem realistic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavrik13 Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Do you hear many success stories of people matching to term after only deciding they wanted it in clerkship? I have. It's not the end of the world if you decide late. It is very tough in derm, because you have people gunning for it straight out of the gate. Similar to Optho. But I have met two Derm residents who only decided in clerkship (granted, it was very early in clerkship). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GewoW Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 just matched - started interest in derm late 3rd year. words of wisdom: don't work hard, work smart. im sure i could have had a better dossier and more interviews - but i matched... most important factor is that the residents and staff like you and feel you would fit in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey's Anatomy Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 Do men generally pursue derm? From what I've read on this forum, it sounds like it's predominantly women (and those too who are attractive) who end up securing a residency spot in derm. I wanted to clarify whether that's true at all and whether 'beauty' may be a factor that the selection committee might (sub)consciously look for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ1985 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Do men generally pursue derm? From what I've read on this forum' date=' it sounds like it's predominantly women (and those too who are attractive) who end up securing a residency spot in derm. I wanted to clarify whether that's true at all and whether 'beauty' may be a factor that the selection committee might (sub)consciously look for?[/quote'] Last year our school had 3 spots and all went to males. Male/Female plays no role in deciding if you get admitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shikimate Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 Do men generally pursue derm? From what I've read on this forum' date=' it sounds like it's predominantly women (and those too who are attractive) who end up securing a residency spot in derm. I wanted to clarify whether that's true at all and whether 'beauty' may be a factor that the selection committee might (sub)consciously look for?[/quote'] In 2012 UWO's 2 derm matches were both men, both had similar strategies (research, lots of face time in derm electives, backup options); they looked like your average male, I don't think beauty was a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyDLuffy Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 In 2012 UWO's 2 derm matches were both men, both had similar strategies (research, lots of face time in derm electives, backup options); they looked like your average male, I don't think beauty was a factor. Did they conduct research relating to the skin? What were their backup options? A friend of mine in year 3 of med told me that a particular race/religion was more prominent in this field... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shikimate Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Did they conduct research relating to the skin? What were their backup options? A friend of mine in year 3 of med told me that a particular race/religion was more prominent in this field... As far as I was told one of them did quite a bit of internal medicine research, I think backup was internal medicine for that person. The race/religion question is difficult to answer with N=2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicalTown Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Is derm usually a five year residency on top of the four year medical school? :-O Do you get paid during residency, if so how much? And if not, how much is tuition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shikimate Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Is derm usually a five year residency on top of the four year medical school? :-O Do you get paid during residency, if so how much? And if not, how much is tuition Yes, and most residencies are 5 years. You do get paid as a resident, CaRMS has all the program and salary informations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAMFtastic Posted August 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 I think the pay is dependent on the province but it is in the range of 50-60k/year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebouque Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Is derm usually a five year residency on top of the four year medical school? :-O Do you get paid during residency, if so how much? And if not, how much is tuition In Quebec the pay is in the 50-70k range and you pay 700$/year of tuition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLengr Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 I think the pay is dependent on the province but it is in the range of 50-60k/year Closer to 50-80k. It's province dependent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economist Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Does research/publication in other specialty really not help when matching into Derm? I still don't think I grasp how competitive derm really is. I mean there are no Step 1 scores... so just purely based on your rotation + LOR + research? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLengr Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Does research/publication in other specialty really not help when matching into Derm? I still don't think I grasp how competitive derm really is. I mean there are no Step 1 scores... so just purely based on your rotation + LOR + research? Mostly based on elective rotation, but yes, competitive specialty matching has no real hard numbers you can use to compare candidates. It's one of the downsides of the P/F system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermviser Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Mostly based on elective rotation, but yes, competitive specialty matching has no real hard numbers you can use to compare candidates. It's one of the downsides of the P/F system. True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susainta Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Another question regarding applications.. I am applying to derm and have written one paper which is not yet published. Can I include it in my application as "pending"? Do I have to include the text in "attach documents"? (we did not submit an abstract) Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lactic Folly Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 In preparation, submitted, or accepted (in press) would be more clear than 'pending'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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