Fleming Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 First day of orientation is August 24th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Dusdal Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Brilliant. Thanks so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medrock Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Can anyone that got an acceptance offer give any advice on the interview? I received a below average and Im wondering how I can improve for next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medrock Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 I got a 62 TFL score, 38 on NAQ and 24.5 on AQ - I got a below average on the interview though - do I have hope if I can achieve an above average score on the interview next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplin Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 I got a 62 TFL score, 38 on NAQ and 24.5 on AQ - I got a below average on the interview though - do I have hope if I can achieve an above average score on the interview next year? Something very weird happened with my interview group. Every single person from my circuit was rejected with below interview score. I dont know what this might imply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consequence Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Something very weird happened with my interview group. Every single person from my circuit was rejected with below interview score. I dont know what this might imply. how could you possibly know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplin Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 how could you possibly know this? Since all the 12 people are my friends and I asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consequence Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Since all the 12 people are my friends and I asked. hmm. well thats interesting. your circuit must have had really tough markers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGrisham Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Something very weird happened with my interview group. Every single person from my circuit was rejected with below interview score. I dont know what this might imply. You know every single person in your circuit? How is that possible haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGrisham Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Ah missed the part where it worked out you knew all 12 hah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplin Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 hmm. well thats interesting. your circuit must have had really tough markers I guess it was just bad luck this cycle. Not saying my performance was exceptional but its some consolation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayHappy Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 I guess it was just bad luck this cycle. Not saying my performance was exceptional but its some consolation. Having spoken to prior MMI interviewers/markers and whether people want to admit it or not, chance/luck plays a pretty big factor in the MMI. Is your evaluator having a good/bad day goes a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amichel Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Having spoken to prior MMI interviewers/markers and whether people want to admit it or not, chance/luck plays a pretty big factor in the MMI. Is your evaluator having a good/bad day goes a long way. It would take a lot more than 1 evaluator having a bad day to reject an entire circuit. Also, I would hope that they look at the interview stats and see if someone is giving universally bad scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qszwdxefc Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 I believe that interview scores are standardized too in some way or form, so someone who systematically gives out lower scores will be adjusted for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacigolonummI Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 removed; not going to get into an argument. Luck definitely plays a role. I know someone who has been an interviewer before and he says during their workshops, evaluators give far from consistent scores to sample applicants (video). People who get in on their first try seem to think they have perfect personalities which is far from the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayHappy Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 It would take a lot more than 1 evaluator having a bad day to reject an entire circuit. Also, I would hope that they look at the interview stats and see if someone is giving universally bad scores. Yeah that is true, not what I was trying to say. Seems very weird that everyone in that circuit didn't get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amichel Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 removed; not going to get into an argument. Luck definitely plays a role. I know someone who has been an interviewer before and he says during their workshops, evaluators give far from consistent scores to sample applicants (video). People who get in on their first try seem to think they have perfect personalities which is far from the truth Uh what? People think they have 'perfect personalities'? That's a bit rude and seems like an attack on those disagreeing with you. I'm not saying interviewers all give the same scores. Obviously not. The point of an MMI is that multiple independent stations increases reliability and decreases the luck aspect that is present with one interviewer. Also, the point was that it would take more than an interviewer having a bad day to reject an ENTIRE circuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGrisham Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 removed; not going to get into an argument. Luck definitely plays a role. I know someone who has been an interviewer before and he says during their workshops, evaluators give far from consistent scores to sample applicants (video). People who get in on their first try seem to think they have perfect personalities which is far from the truth Luck is very much so present in the process, i'm not sure anyone is saying otherwise. As someone who fits the category of your last sentence, I'd laugh at anyone who would hold that sentiment of having a "perfect x y z" for any aspect of the process, just because they got in. No one is perfect, regardless of how high achieving one may be. Humbleness is a desirable trait. I think amichel made a good point that it would take more than just 1 interviewer to result in a whole circuit getting below average interview scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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medrock Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Uh what? People think they have 'perfect personalities'? That's a bit rude and seems like an attack on those disagreeing with you. I'm not saying interviewers all give the same scores. Obviously not. The point of an MMI is that multiple independent stations increases reliability and decreases the luck aspect that is present with one interviewer. Also, the point was that it would take more than an interviewer having a bad day to reject an ENTIRE circuit. You should remember that interviews are competitive. Considering they say you can blow one or two stations and still get accepted, if you are handicapped with only being 'allowed' to blow one station because of a difficult interviewer at the other station, that can definitely lead to an unsuccessful application. Even though we would like to say it is a fair all around process, the fact of the matter is, it isnt. Although they do their best to make it as fair as possible, it is impossible for it to be completely fair. And this goes along with the application as well. No matter what they do there will always be a bias aspect to the process. If you compare two students, one from a poor background, the other from a wealthy, supportive one, the latter will obviously have a big big advantage. Moreoever, UBC sadly doesnt consider your background entirely - if they did they wouldnt of gotten rid of the Biographical Essay. You cant describe your life story in a 350 character NAQ box (or 500 character additional info box), at least not at the level it deserves. I would of loved to explain many aspects of my life that have contributed toward my ability to emphasize with physicians, however the form just doesn't give you that opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amichel Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 You should remember that interviews are competitive. Considering they say you can blow one or two stations and still get accepted, if you are handicapped with only being 'allowed' to blow one station because of a difficult interviewer at the other station, that can definitely lead to an unsuccessful application. Even though we would like to say it is a fair all around process, the fact of the matter is, it isnt. Although they do their best to make it as fair as possible, it is impossible for it to be completely fair. And this goes along with the application as well. No matter what they do there will always be a bias aspect to the process. If you compare two students, one from a poor background, the other from a wealthy, supportive one, the latter will obviously have a big big advantage. Moreoever, UBC sadly doesnt consider your background entirely - if they did they wouldnt of gotten rid of the Biographical Essay. You cant describe your life story in a 350 character NAQ box (or 500 character additional info box), at least not at the level it deserves. I would of loved to explain many aspects of my life that have contributed toward my ability to emphasize with physicians, however the form just doesn't give you that opportunity. What? I don't really disagree with you but almost none of this is at all related to my post that you quoted. I never said the interviews were entirely fair. I said that MMIs were MORE fair, because there are more chances to impress, or not. Your point is valid but doesn't disprove mine. In a single interview situation and interviewer having a bad day would completely eliminate your chances, whereas in the MMI it just decreases them. Also, I don't think an interviewer having a bad day is equivalent to blowing a station. The former might be 1-2 point difference while the latter would be almost the entirety of the points for that station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow_knight Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 That makes no sense statistically. How can everyone be below average? Oh wait... they probably mean below average with respect to all interviewees It could be that the "standardized" or "unstandardized" scores of the circuit ranked lower on the global score list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Dusdal Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 If everyone was friends, is it possible that many of the answers given were very similar. Maybe everyone did some preparation together? Could be that that group of 12 interviewed below the average of the rest of those interviewed. Seems logically possible for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AS9Wave Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 You should remember that interviews are competitive. Considering they say you can blow one or two stations and still get accepted, if you are handicapped with only being 'allowed' to blow one station because of a difficult interviewer at the other station, that can definitely lead to an unsuccessful application. Even though we would like to say it is a fair all around process, the fact of the matter is, it isnt. Although they do their best to make it as fair as possible, it is impossible for it to be completely fair. And this goes along with the application as well. No matter what they do there will always be a bias aspect to the process. If you compare two students, one from a poor background, the other from a wealthy, supportive one, the latter will obviously have a big big advantage. Moreoever, UBC sadly doesnt consider your background entirely - if they did they wouldnt of gotten rid of the Biographical Essay. You cant describe your life story in a 350 character NAQ box (or 500 character additional info box), at least not at the level it deserves. I would of loved to explain many aspects of my life that have contributed toward my ability to emphasize with physicians, however the form just doesn't give you that opportunity. Haha this reminded me of my own interview. In one station, my interviewer was so disappointed in my terrible answer that she simply said "Oh good the bell has gone.. you can stop talking now.." in a very sarcastic tone. Thank god for 10 stations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow_knight Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Haha this reminded me of my own interview. In one station, my interviewer was so disappointed in my terrible answer that she simply said "Oh good the bell has gone.. you can stop talking now.." in a very sarcastic tone. Thank god for 10 stations! Lol are you serious? Was it one of the first or last stations for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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