Interview Invite Stats (4Yr Ip)

[adhominem]

For those who are interested:

Max scores:
cGPA (/4): 4.0

ECs (/17): 14.0

MCAT (/132): 131.25

Avg scores:

cGPA (/4): 3.80

ECs (/17): 7

MCAT (/132): 128.10

If you do the math straight-up for their cumulative weighting, the interview invitation score average should be 50.62 out of 70...
(3.8/4.0*27)+(128.10/132*13)+(7/17*30)= 50.62 (edited for math error, whoops!)

Comparing to last year (2016 interview invite averages and max values) with a weighted score of 49.284 out of 70

cGPA: 3.86 (max=4.00)

P. Activities (/17): 6  (max=12)

MCAT: 128.35, (max=131.75) 

Granted I doubt they do their calculations this way, since it results in the average applicant score being derived largely from GPA.

Also for those who never had the chance to go in and review a breakdown of your score (they no longer allow this apparently), ECs are scored out of 17 because scholarships and awards are worth a total of 1 point, and the rest of the sections are out of a total of 4 each. 

[End Poverty]

Thank you so much for the calculations. 

 

I used the same formula that you used and I got a different value for 2017: 50.618850267/ 70.

 

I am SO glad that U of A lowered their academic requirements. YAY, that makes me so happy  

[HiHopes]

Is there any information out there about what pre-mmi score the entire pool of applicants and the selected pool of applicants received?

 

EDIT: The only info I found:

 

 

 

  Mean Cumulative GPA  Mean MCAT (2/3 Yr Positions)   3.95    129.98

                                                            (4 Yr Positions)      3.88     128.44

 

Directly from https://www.ualberta.ca/medicine/programs/md/admissions/applying/entering-statistics

[anon5678]

i dont think tell your pre mmi ranking score. they only tell ur stats versus the average.

the stats OP posted are from a letter that applicants rejected pre-mmi probably received

[adhominem]

 

Is there any information out there about what pre-mmi score the entire pool of applicants and the selected pool of applicants received?

 

EDIT: The only info I found:

 

 

 

  Mean Cumulative GPA  Mean MCAT (2/3 Yr Positions)   3.95    129.98

                                                            (4 Yr Positions)      3.88     128.44

 

Directly from https://www.ualberta.ca/medicine/programs/md/admissions/applying/entering-statistics

 

These are scores sent out by MD admissions at U of A to those who weren't selected for an interview. They will send out similar stats to these for those who are rejected post-interview (stats for those rejected post-interview and those initially offered admission). 

 

So to answer your question, the stats I posted are for the entire pool of 4th year IP interviewees. 

[King74]

Has anyone received the OOP email? I haven't gotten mine yet.

[adhominem]

Has anyone received the OOP email? I haven't gotten mine yet.

they're using snail mail, so you should receive your letter soonish if you aren't local

[End Poverty]

Has anyone received the OOP email? I haven't gotten mine yet.

 

I believe it is sent by Canada Post ( someone correct me if I am wrong?). Because you are an OOP applicant, it may take longer for you to receive the letter.

[HiHopes]

So do they send you an email if you get accepted but a letter if it's a rejection?

[End Poverty]

So do they send you an email if you get accepted but a letter if it's a rejection?

 

 

I think they send an email to the ualberta account for accepted, WL and rejected applicants. Again, someone please correct me if I am wrong

[adhominem]

Feedback and scoring come back as letters, but the initial outcomes are reported by email. If you are accepted you never receive your score letters I don't think, but someone please correct me if I am wrong. 

[HiHopes]

That's correct and is part of the whole going into the school with a clean slate so as to avoid competition between classmates. I just wanted to prepare myself so that, if I got a letter before an email, I wouldn't get too excited. That'd be too much of a heartbreak

[End Poverty]

For reference:

 

The average GPA in 2014 for interviewees was 3.89*.

The average GPA in 2015 for interviewees was 3.87*.

The average GPA in 2016 for interviewees was 3.86*.

The average GPA in 2017 ( this year) for interviewees was 3.80* ( A significant drop).

 

*All the above mentioned data are collected from people on PM101 who posted the stats online.

 

 

U Of A significantly dropped their average GPA over the years. I am wondering if they are using a different formula or they are changing their selection criteria.. but that is so exciting for applicants with GPA on lower side

[TheApiarist]

For reference:

 

The average GPA in 2014 for interviewees was 3.89*.

The average GPA in 2015 for interviewees was 3.87*.

The average GPA in 2016 for interviewees was 3.86*.

The average GPA in 2017 ( this year) for interviewees was 3.80* ( A significant drop).

 

*All the above mentioned data are collected from people on PM101 who posted the stats online.

 

 

U Of A significantly dropped their average GPA over the years. I am wondering if they are using a different formula or they are changing their selection criteria.. but that is so exciting for applicants with GPA on lower side

UofA seems to be turning into UofC

[HiHopes]

This is good to see, in my opinion. I'll try to find the research and post it here about GPA not being the best predictor of success in med. It seems that, after a certain grade point, there is little difference in how well people do. Other skills are being assessed (Casper and MMIs being used) because these tend to be good predictors of other non-cognitive skills that are needed to be good service providers in medicine.

[HiHopes]

UofA seems to be turning into UofC

And it seems like their MMI patterns freaky-friday'd this year - UofA was all personal and UofC was oddly factual at times

[End Poverty]

And it seems like their MMI patterns freaky-friday'd this year - UofA was all personal and UofC was oddly factual at times

 

 

Maybe U of C and U of A are switching roles LOL

[HiHopes]

Maybe U of C and U of A are switching roles LOL

Trust me, though. I had to deal with some bureaucracies with the UofA and they still very much had the elitist, inflexible aura to them. With establishment comes pomp, I suppose.

 

EDIT: Maybe this is more stinging than I wished it to be. I'll just clarify that these were administrative dealings outside of MD admissions. MD admissions was actually quite stellar in helping me try to address the problem with the registrar.

[End Poverty]

Trust me, though. I had to deal with some bureaucracies with the UofA and they still very much had the elitist, inflexible aura to them. With establishment comes pomp, I suppose.

 

 

If you don't mind, can you tell me what you mean by bureaucracies with U of A?  How does applying to U of A differ from U of C? 

[HiHopes]

For confidentiality reasons, I sent you a PM.

[BernieMac]

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[HiHopes]

Not even in their Ualberta email? They only send stuff to your school email. Ideally, they should have.

[jaloobi]

Does this mean you need a 50 to get an interview?  If someone meets above the average score of those invited to interview, what could be wrong?

[End Poverty]

 If someone meets above the average score of those invited to interview, what could be wrong?

 

What do you mean by the above sentence?

[Exergy]

What do you mean by the above sentence?

I'm assuming he meant if someone meets the score calculated by that formula, and yet did not get invited to interviews, what could be wrong. The formula is almost definitely not how they calculate the pre-interview scores since it means 3.80 vs 4.0 is only 1.35 (4.0/4.0*27-3.8/4.0*27) points away, and a 125 vs 132 MCAT is only 0.7 (132/132*13-125/132*13)  points away. So they definitely adjust GPA/MCAT to stratify the top scores more.