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This year's class of 2017 at U of T will be the first to graduate 84 new dentists and next year's class of 2018 will be the first to graduate 96 new dentists. 

 

Previously, the class size is 64 at U of T. 

 

What do others think? 

 

What about NDEB allowing more and more foreign dentists in after some tests? And the NZ/Aus agreement? And all the Canadian grads at American schools coming back? 

 

 

Is it weird how supply of dentists is not controlled like medical residencies are in Canada? 

 

 

***specifically about Ontario

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Employment rate is still 100% pretty much. Will be harder to be successful in major cities, but my friends who moved to smaller cities/towns are doing extremely well. Just work hard, become the best dentist you can be and you'll be fine

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Employment rate is still 100% pretty much. Will be harder to be successful in major cities, but my friends who moved to smaller cities/towns are doing extremely well. Just work hard, become the best dentist you can be and you'll be fine

 

Is London considered a small city/town? 

 

Very true, but I think many people are too attached to Toronto.

 

Personally, I live outside of the GTA (pop'n 80K) and it's lovely and calm and peaceful 

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I don't think it is, but I remember reading somewhere that the London/Woodstock area is one of the best places for dental employment, so thats good hahah.

 

Yea I know what you mean, I grew up in Toronto but its becoming so busy and expensive that I really don't mind living somewhere else more calm and affordable lol

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I don't think increasing the spots will be detrimental for Ontario, especially as the province's population continues to grow. I would be a little concerned, however, about the university's facilities managing the larger number of students, especially over the next couple of years. There are sure to be growing pains as they renovate the building and try to expand.

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it is getting close to 400K - what is your range for being a sweet spot? :)

 

 

I've lived in a town of 80K for a long time - life moves at a slower pace and driving and travelling is WAY easier. Cleaner, less pollution, less noise. 

 

So I'd say 300-400K is large but manageable

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I've lived in a town of 80K for a long time - life moves at a slower pace and driving and travelling is WAY easier. Cleaner, less pollution, less noise. 

 

So I'd say 300-400K is large but manageable

 

of course each city is as well a bit different - London happens to be the "city of trees" and thus a ton of green space. I have seen smaller cities that actually feel much more cramped to me. 

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of course each city is as well a bit different - London happens to be the "city of trees" and thus a ton of green space. I have seen smaller cities that actually feel much more cramped to me. 

lol they've been chopping down all the trees and redeveloping like crazy. I'm not from Toronto and London's a village to me. 

 

I don't think it is, but I remember reading somewhere that the London/Woodstock area is one of the best places for dental employment, so thats good hahah.

 

Yea I know what you mean, I grew up in Toronto but its becoming so busy and expensive that I really don't mind living somewhere else more calm and affordable lol

That's funny. I always keep hearing about the saturation of dentists in London. Always thought they're Schulich grads who happened to like the city and decided to stay on.

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lol they've been chopping down all the trees and redeveloping like crazy. I'm not from Toronto and London's a village to me. 

 

That's funny. I always keep hearing about the saturation of dentists in London. Always thought they're Schulich grads who happened to like the city and decided to stay on.

 

that is mildly disappointing ha! 

 

I was from a smaller city (Guelph - 140K) and London always felt like an upgraded very of that to me. Although I will always have problems calling a place with ere 400K live a town or village ha. 

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The way it is now will probably be worse in 5 years right? 

 

Because there will be 30 more grads from UofT per year starting next year. 

 

Plus NDEB probably has plans to allow thousands of foreign dentists in? 

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The way it is now will probably be worse in 5 years right?

 

Because there will be 30 more grads from UofT per year starting next year.

 

Plus NDEB probably has plans to allow thousands of foreign dentists in?

Although the effect of increase in the number of matriculates at uoft will certainly worsen the current saturation issue, I think the equivalency policy and accreditation of Aus/New zealand/Ireland will have a far more impact. I've already seen quite a few recent grads from Australia, with 'Dr' in front of their name when some of their degree isn't even doctoral...this is certainly confirmed from NDEB site where they publish the pass rate of NDEB results. The number of candidates writing it has gone up from like ~600-700 in 2010ish from what I recall to 1262 in 2016. And passing rate stayed similar so that just tells you how many more dentists Canada is producing annually now. This excludes people who take the equivalency route.

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