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[BernieMac]

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[dumbebell]

Well I am not sure what you trying to accomplish here by stating about the unfairness here.

First of all, the joking stats you are talking about is from 2015 when usask changed the requirements from 2 ywar to a 4 year degree. There was sudden decrease in the number of applicants due to ineligibility. Please also state data prior to 2015 if you are talking about low standard here.

Second, these stats include Aboriginal students if I am correct.

You are most welcome to move to Saskatchewan if you want.

[BernieMac]

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[BernieMac]

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[dumbebell]

I am not disagreeing with your stats. They accepted 90 out of 300 peoples in 2013 following interview. I am not agreeing with your attitude about its being "unfair" and/or "low standard". Just because an University is giving interview, it does mean that its a guaranteed entrance. There is absolutely nothing to be salty as you stated. In the end, its more than about the stats.

I welcome you to move to Saskatchewan. Its a lovely province and I am sure you will love it.

I hope you understand.

Take care!

[indefatigable]

It may seem unfair, but otherwise Saskatchewan would end up paying to train people who wouldn't be likely to work within the province.  It's the same story in every province except at some Ontario schools.  It happens to some degree at residency, but the inflow/outflow is more balanced.  It's a multi-year process to become IP at Saskatchewan - so there's many other options to become competitive for med school during those years.     

[Me11y]

On 9/28/2017 at 1:02 PM, dumbebell said:

Well I am not sure what you trying to accomplish here by stating about the unfairness here.

First of all, the joking stats you are talking about is from 2015 when usask changed the requirements from 2 ywar to a 4 year degree. There was sudden decrease in the number of applicants due to ineligibility. Please also state data prior to 2015 if you are talking about low standard here.

Second, these stats include Aboriginal students if I am correct.

You are most welcome to move to Saskatchewan if you want.

I agree that the change in requirements led to the lower number of IP applicants compared to previous year.  This ends up skewing the data.  2016 was back down to 43% (acceptance rate of IP applicants) and 2017 went down to 30%.  I'm pretty sure that number will only go down in 2018 as the trend seems to be going that way (numbers of IP applicants increasing toward original numbers before 4 year degree requirement).

[mdjdot]

 

On 9/28/2017 at 1:35 PM, YesIcan55 said:

Surprised no one here ever talks about how much of a joke it is to get in if you are IP from Sask, https://medicine.usask.ca/documents/ugme/admission/2016UGMEAdmissionsStats.pdf.

I don't how to get IP status from Sask but it seems like a genius idea to move there and gain it somehow....look at these stats....In 2015, there were only 173 IP applicants....and 134 (78%!!!!!) got interviews.....of those 134....88 got accepted (66%!!!)... they set the interview pass at 13% percentile so if you are above that you "passed the interview"...... so in 2015 a IP in Sask had a 51% of getting into medical school....

In 2016, there was 203 IP applicants and 163 (81%!!!!!) got interviews...with the lowest MCAT that got an interview at 492 (24%....). The median MCAT for those accepted was 501 (57%)....they set the MMI pass at 19% percentile.....so if you are IP in Sask you honestly should feel very very grateful. There is no other province in Canada where IP applicants get nearly as low standards.

 

These stats may seem like a joke to you but honestly check them, they come straight from the Sask website....I just think it is really really unfair and I'm surprised more people haven't brought this up... I don't intend to disrespect but I am just salty haha

Wow!

[rmorelan]

On 9/28/2017 at 6:23 PM, calcan said:

It may seem unfair, but otherwise Saskatchewan would end up paying to train people who wouldn't be likely to work within the province.  It's the same story in every province except at some Ontario schools.  It happens to some degree at residency, but the inflow/outflow is more balanced.  It's a multi-year process to become IP at Saskatchewan - so there's many other options to become competitive for med school during those years.     

All of these patterns of unfairness come up on the forum a lot - makes sense, people dealing with a worse situation in one province are annoyed by the policies of another easier one. 

The answer is always (often unsatisfying) the same. The system is not just about us (be it medical students, applicants, residents, or even staff doctors). The needs of the communities  is usually more pressing, and since we are in a socialist education system and health care system there are times when individuals will always be disadvantaged for the needs of the whole. There are a lot of "unfair" things overall to applicants as a result, but is also unfair for one part of Canada to have better health care than another part and that is what we have right now. 

Doesn't change the fact that is kind of sucks for people trying to get in of course. 

 

 

[mdjdot]

On 10/14/2017 at 9:30 PM, rmorelan said:

All of these patterns of unfairness come up on the forum a lot - makes sense, people dealing with a worse situation in one province are annoyed by the policies of another easier one. 

The answer is always (often unsatisfying) the same. The system is not just about us (be it medical students, applicants, residents, or even staff doctors). The needs of the communities  is usually more pressing, and since we are in a socialist education system and health care system there are times when individuals will always be disadvantaged for the needs of the whole. There are a lot of "unfair" things overall to applicants as a result, but is also unfair for one part of Canada to have better health care than another part and that is what we have right now. 

Doesn't change the fact that is kind of sucks for people trying to get in of course. 

 

 

Well said! 

[rogerroger]

Might be interesting to see what happens if adcoms agreed to  anonymize regional geography of the applicants. Won't happen though. That dog won't hunt politically with the provinces.

I imagine the CaRMS meat grinder could meet regional needs by brute force if need be. It already does this somewhat. 

Its an interesting philosophical argument that goes on often in post-secondary education. Social needs versus most qualified applicant. I tend to favor the later. But get the argument against this. 

[CLIC5A]

Yeah, these stats seem generous, but you're forgetting that you have to suffer the fate of living in SK 

Only kidding. I wasn't even eligible to apply for USask to begin with. I believe these standards are fair with respect to the population applying in the province. And after all, it's a provincial mission to educate and train students for their own work force.