Snowden Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 . Dragonite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j17f Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, Snowden said: @Dragonite, have you noticed that English "good" waitlisted are all at this time? Mine is 7:45 AM as well! Don't do this to yourselves. We do this every year. It means nothing. Maggie19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonite Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 @Snowden Yeah, that's what I've noticed. I think all of the English good WL's were sent out at the same time, same thing with all English bad WL's, and presumably French Bad/Good WL's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islenyk Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 Can anyone tell me what in the email indicates good vs bad waitlist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oro Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 if it says somewhere that you are unlikely to receive an offer that would be bad waitlist and if it doesn't say anything that would be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curiousaboutapps1 Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 On 5/8/2018 at 12:41 PM, Graduate08 said: My friend was also bad-waitlisted for MD... but she was good waitlisted (i dont think they have a bad waitlist for the dual degree) for Ottawa's MD/PhD program... looks like bad waitlist is basically a rejection...shes wondering: is there ever a case where someone backed out from MD/PhD (receive acceptances earlier) last minute, after finding out they got accepted for MD (in any ontario school) on D-Day? There won't be any more movement in the MD/PhD program Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatFruits Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 I received a "good" waitlist email at 7:11am. However, I did apply through the English, Indigenous stream. Does anybody know if there's a separate waitlist for Indigenous students? I.e if Indigenous students that were accepted decline I'd be accepted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruh Posted May 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 I have a theory that if you have a 3.98 or higher and good-waitlisted you will eventually get accepted. If the good waitlist is made of two interview score bins and it always makes it until the 3.97 mark on the second bin then if you’re above that you will get in. Take this with a HUGE grain of salt. I’m just theorizing, for all we know, the good waitlist could be much much bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlameGrilledChicken Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, FatherFranklin said: I have a theory that if you have a 3.98 or higher and good-waitlisted you will eventually get accepted. If the good waitlist is made of two interview score bins and it always makes it until the 3.97 mark on the second bin then if you’re above that you will get in. Take this with a HUGE grain of salt. I’m just theorizing, for all we know, the good waitlist could be much much bigger. I think in previous years though, its gone through several (3-4ish) bins though. But I do agree its likely that the good waitlist typically ends with the last or second to last bin thats accepted and a high gpa is helpful. However, we also don't know that the bins are evenly filled with people and that could also complicate things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j17f Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, FlameGrilledChicken said: I think in previous years though, its gone through several (3-4ish) bins though. But I do agree its likely that the good waitlist typically ends with the last or second to last bin thats accepted and a high gpa is helpful. However, we also don't know that the bins are evenly filled with people and that could also complicate things. They've also interviewed people with a lot lower GPAs than previous years, so maybe this means it will move a bit lower in whichever interview bin they typically end in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlameGrilledChicken Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, Jfourn said: They've also interviewed people with a lot lower GPAs than previous years, so maybe this means it will move a bit lower in whichever interview bin they typically end in. Yup, I agree, I think they probably still have similar numbers of people in each bin but instead of going from 4.0 -> 3.9 it might go down from 4.0 -> 3.8 in a bin for example which means that a low GPA is not necessarily a death sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 On 5/8/2018 at 12:17 PM, Jfourn said: I've been on the waitlist in 2016, 2017 and this year. In 2015, 2014 and 2013 it didn't move to the bad waitlist. Based on how the waitlist moves we believe we are placed into different interview score groups (4, 3.5, 3.0, 2.5, 2.0 etc...). Those in the 4.0 group get in right away, and those in the 3.5 group with higher GPAs (3.99-4.0) are also accepted, and then come May 22 you will slowly start to see the waitlist move from people with 3.98 getting accepted down to like 3.9. This will be the end of the 3.5 interview group, and it will move on to the 3.0 interview group. So next you will see people with 4.0 and 3.99 getting accepted off the waitlist. Now we don't know this for sure, some people believe that our interview scores are averaged so we could have groups like (4.0, 3.66, 3.5 etc..). Whatever it may be, it moves into the third grouping and stays there. With that being said, it looks like there were a lot more lower GPAs that were interviewed this year, so perhaps those with the mid 3.9 GPAs in the 3.0 interview group could have a shot at getting accepted in late June or early July (I'm hoping so at least). So based on that how good is the good wait list for Ottawa now - been a few years since I analyzed it. Cannot be perfect if I am reading your signature correctly - good luck by the way! I am hoping it ends in good news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j17f Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, rmorelan said: So based on that how good is the good wait list for Ottawa now - been a few years since I analyzed it. Cannot be perfect if I am reading your signature correctly - good luck by the way! I am hoping it ends in good news Thanks. I am getting very anxious because of the lack of McGill OOP movement and the fact that I’m on this waitlist again. I started to play Diablo 2 again to try to keep my mind busy. Maggie19 and Bluecolorisnice 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jfourn said: Thanks. I am getting very anxious because of the lack of McGill OOP movement and the fact that I’m on this waitlist again. I started to play Diablo 2 again to try to keep my mind busy. Ha, classic. Plus long enough to provide some distraction Yeah that must be frustrating of course - waitlists are never fun (I will repeat my thoughts on us having some form of CARMS like system for this so that the waitlists vanish and all the outcomes are decided immediately without any disadvantage to the applicants). You seem to be quite successful in getting interviews there though which is promising at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_jacob_45 Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 2 hours ago, FatherFranklin said: I have a theory that if you have a 3.98 or higher and good-waitlisted you will eventually get accepted. If the good waitlist is made of two interview score bins and it always makes it until the 3.97 mark on the second bin then if you’re above that you will get in. Take this with a HUGE grain of salt. I’m just theorizing, for all we know, the good waitlist could be much much bigger. Its hard to know exactly how things work, but my year in 2015, I had a 3.92 GPA and was accepted 2 days after the date to respond to initial offers , so I think the waitlist started pretty low down in the second bin would be my guess, and then went into 1-2 more bins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panacea2022 Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 On 5/8/2018 at 3:09 PM, friedchickendudeMD said: I am rooting for you guys! I hope you make it! especially Fatherfranklin, Jfourn and Maggie19 Long time lurker, first time poster. I was accepted to the English stream on Tuesday. I’m really sorry that everyone has to go through this tough wait in this thread, you’re all very deserving to be accepted. I’d like to specifically call out this guy though. To be quite frank, it makes me really disappointed that I am going to be colleagues with someone who has immediately shown his true colours when getting accepted. To name drop people who you feel are “more deserving” than others (no hate to those individuals he mentioned) shows a complete lack of empathy for those going through a really difficult time right now. I’m hoping in medical school you’ll learn how to be a bit more compassionate towards others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 On 5/9/2018 at 3:57 PM, Jfourn said: Don't do this to yourselves. We do this every year. It means nothing. ha, yeah every year. So hard to turn off that brain trying to extract anything and everything even in the face of randomness. erythrocyte 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, Panacea2022 said: Long time lurker, first time poster. I was accepted to the English stream on Tuesday. I’m really sorry that everyone has to go through this tough wait in this thread, you’re all very deserving to be accepted. I’d like to specifically call out this guy though. To be quite frank, it makes me really disappointed that I am going to be colleagues with someone who has immediately shown his true colours when getting accepted. To name drop people who you feel are “more deserving” than others (no hate to those individuals he mentioned) shows a complete lack of empathy for those going through a really difficult time right now. I’m hoping in medical school you’ll learn how to be a bit more compassionate towards others. Perhaps they are friends on the forum? Not that I know the situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panacea2022 Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 Just now, rmorelan said: Perhaps they are friends on the forum? Not that I know the situation Perhaps! But it would have been more tactful to privately DM them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruh Posted May 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 40 minutes ago, Panacea2022 said: Perhaps! But it would have been more tactful to privately DM them. We know each other personally so he’s just acknowledging a few of us that he knows outside PM101 inside the forum. He’s rooting for all of us just like he said. It really isn’t him trying to cherry pick a few people on here who he thinks are more qualified. anon5678 and Maggie19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celg3 Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Panacea2022 said: Long time lurker, first time poster. I was accepted to the English stream on Tuesday. I’m really sorry that everyone has to go through this tough wait in this thread, you’re all very deserving to be accepted. I’d like to specifically call out this guy though. To be quite frank, it makes me really disappointed that I am going to be colleagues with someone who has immediately shown his true colours when getting accepted. To name drop people who you feel are “more deserving” than others (no hate to those individuals he mentioned) shows a complete lack of empathy for those going through a really difficult time right now. I’m hoping in medical school you’ll learn how to be a bit more compassionate towards others. What the heck? That guy’s comment just seemed like an innocent and nice thing to say to show support for his friends from my perspective. Meanwhile your comment comes off as aggressive and condescending. If anything I think you’re the one who comes off as lacking empathy, why do you feel the need to come into the waitlist thread to state you got in on Tuesday then rag on someone for showing support? anon5678 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 1 hour ago, FatherFranklin said: We know each other personally so he’s just acknowledging a few of us that he knows outside PM101 inside the forum. He’s rooting for all of us just like he said. It really isn’t him trying to cherry pick a few people on here who he thinks are more qualified. Figured as much - this is one of the issues of a forum. They are imperfect means of communication. In any case I wouldn't want to derail a thread - particular one specifically for supporting people at this time over such things. The universe is stressful enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruh Posted May 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 6 hours ago, rmorelan said: Figured as much - this is one of the issues of a forum. They are imperfect means of communication. In any case I wouldn't want to derail a thread - particular one specifically for supporting people at this time over such things. The universe is stressful enough Agreed Lets all stick together through this. This community and a select few of my friends are the only people who I can relate with. medhope7, Bluecolorisnice and Maggie19 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medschoolwannabe12345 Posted May 13, 2018 Report Share Posted May 13, 2018 So I know that we've determined that there seems to be approximately 90 people or so who get in off the good waitlist. Does anyone know how many people get the good waitlist email in total? Or conversely, the number of people who receive the good waitlist email but never receive an offer of admission? There's probably no numbers on that last one, but anecdotally does anyone know how common that is? mr.smith and medhopeful7748 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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