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  1. DrHopes

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    so I send the email yesterday night and Diane just answered (they do answer so fast !)... She told me : « Il y a encore du mouvement sur la liste d’attente. Une fois que la classe sera complète, nous allons envoyer un courriel à tous les candidats sur la liste d’attente. Je vous souhaite bonne chance, Diane» In English : There is still some movement on the WL. When the class will be complete, we will send an email to everybody on the WL. I wish you good luck, Diane» It gives me a little hope ! and I hope you are right about the facebook group
    9 points
  2. All these posts speaking against BSAP and other forms of "affirmative action" and we have yet to see a single factual piece of statistics to prove that favoring black applicants or other applicants from marginalized backgrounds actually resulted in ANY lower outcome in licensing exams or healthcare outcome. We have no actual knowledge into how applicants to BSAP are assessed aside from the fact that they will be paired with interviewers of their own race to prevent implicit bias. You're making ASSUMPTIONS that these applicants got in with lower average wGPA. But there is no statistics for
    7 points
  3. newmy88

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    I did it... I e-mailed Admissmd/Chantal asking if they are able to provide us with some insight into the movement of the waitlist or if the class is reaching it's limit. I did say in the e-mail however that if they are busy and the email is an inconvenience to them that they can disregard (I can imagine they're getting slammed right now with administration things). I will let you know if I get a response! My heart was beating so fast before I sent it LOL.
    6 points
  4. offmychestplease

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    5 points
  5. DrHopes

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    at first I was really happy with Diane's answer, it gave me hope, but then I started to think it might be like a generic answer because they do not want to give to much details... you know what ? imma send another email to the Queen herself, Chantale, and I'll ask specifically for the french WL. I'll let you guys know ! Desperate times, desperate measures !
    5 points
  6. I haven't revisited any Mac-related forums since May 12, but I wanted to come back to see how much the waitlist moved. Like many of you, I was really frustrated when learning about Mac's lottery selection, but I still think that their medical program is great and will produce terrific doctors. I was fortunate enough to receive an offer to the medical school in my home province, so I won't be at Mac, but I wanted to share what I think about the current state of waitlist movement. Like some other users above, I also think that the Mac waitlist did not move as much this year. I can't confirm
    5 points
  7. Third year medical student, and you still care this much about the absurd medical school process? Sorry that thing's didn't get better once you got into medicine The process in Canada is not ideal but there's no easy solutions to make it "better", someone always loses, when there are too many qualified applicants for so few seats.
    4 points
  8. All of your points make total sense. This change does not make the admissions process more equitable, and it certainly punishes more people than it benefits. The reality of the situation is that there are no truly standardized metrics to measure applicants. Thus, medical schools must make do with the imperfect tools that they have. I think this change is indicative of that reality. Keep in mind, while we Canadians are cursed with low medical school acceptance rates, we are blessed that our medical schools do not use the same methods to assess applicants. This is true even if we focus on
    4 points
  9. I know this wait is excruciating but this is the bro science I have been using to give myself hope, maybe it'll be of use to some of you as well. There are currently 190 people in the facebook group, with 19 known moderators. I think it is safe to assume at least 10-20 people in the group have accepted another school's offer... I'm going to say 20 because it makes me feel better so: 190 - 19- 20 = 151 students accepted. https://afmc.ca/sites/default/files/pdf/2020_admission-requirements_EN.pdf <-- this indicates there is a total of 166 spots for both streams + CFNS. 166-151= 15. T
    4 points
  10. Birdy

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    I started med school older, poorer, and fatter than most students and have health issues and a bunch of kids. Did I fit in? Nope. Still had a blast, made some good friends, and I think my experiences have helped me become a good doc. Yours can very much do the same.
    4 points
  11. Great point, this system is definitely not fair or equitable. I put the blame less on the medical schools themselves and more on the state of our education system in general. In high school, kids are oddly given an easy time, there is no standardized testing and your grades depend more on your individual teacher's biases than your learning as a student. Then in undergrad, the system is so laissez-faire that the smartest way to get into medical school is not to study what you are good at, but to choose the right program and the right courses to get yourself the highest GPA, interest in learning
    3 points
  12. The slights against certain groups aside, I also resonate with the message (and anger) in OP's post. The admissions process really does contain an absurd degree of luck, subjectivity, and bias, and it will always be frustrating to see the inequities that exist play out in such an important part of all of our lives (especially when others who have been successful are oblivious to the imperfections of the system); it would be nice to see something done about it and I don't think we should stop striving for ways to improve the system just because its difficult or inconvenient. Some of the brighte
    3 points
  13. This is wrong lol. I was a hsci and while I acknowledge that there are a numerous narcissistic health scis that are in medical school, they would have stayed terrible regardless of the program they were in. Hsci admin does a lot in terms of trying to address this issue whether it's introducing new courses or adding components of complacency to existing courses, it does not help them at all. I personally am very humbled by my experiences and grateful to a program I would consider to be pretty easy to do well in, and the courses in said program try to invoke this kind of response. But the issue
    3 points
  14. For what it's worth, I've only ever seen science students, medical students, and engineering students believe that they are intellectually superior to others because of the degree program they chose. I have not encountered that kind of attitude from an arts student, ever.
    3 points
  15. yes and she said «the class» and not «the classes»... I don't know, I don't want to believe that it's full, especially for french like it almost did not move and like Quebec accepts more medical students and everything... Like being rational, I would expect a bigggg wave ! I guess we will know soon, the email is sent !
    3 points
  16. palladya

    DMD 2020

    D'après moi il ne faut pas trop trop se fier au forum étant donné que ce n'est visiblement pas tout le monde qui en connait son existence! Attendez au 15 juin avant de vous faire une idée! L'année dernière, la liste d'attente universitaire était rendue à 6 le 15 juin, et au final, elle s'est rendue dans la 20aine! Rien n'est encore perdu
    3 points
  17. Amazing! and hopefully @newmy88 gets a good response for the english stream too!
    3 points
  18. Aw no! well thanks for replying anyways everyone I'm hoping we hear some more people get in this week!
    3 points
  19. Hey! PGY-2 FM. I have unfortunately fairly active rheumatoid arthritis, another connective tissue disorder, and was pregnant both during med school and residency. Both the RA (and immunosuppression associated with being on a biologic) and the pregnancies and breastfeeding involved accommodations. I also had a medical leave in med school due to postpartum depression. My med school was typically accommodating and reasonable to deal with. I encountered students who had other conditions (one comes to mind who had post concussion symptoms for an extended period) who were
    3 points
  20. Psych

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    Not sure if this makes you feel any better or not but I emailed admissmd (it's actually Diane who monitors that email ) a few days ago and she replied very fast!
    3 points
  21. ^very well said. I would also argue that the introduction of programs like BSAP or ISAP can serve as encouragement for these students to apply in the first place. They are more likely to have been told the same old detrimental narrative all their lives that they are "never good enough" or is "less capable", let alone being able to become a physician. If they grew up hearing all these things, they are much less likely to apply to medical schools at all, especially since the representation of themselves in these positions is almost non-existent/hard to come by. By having these sorts of applicati
    3 points
  22. I'm not necessarily arguing for whether a student is less deserving of medical school because of a few extra courses with less satisfactory grades. But how else are they supposed to differentiate applicants?? If everyone has a 3.95+ GPA, GPA becomes obsolete and now they only evaluate you based on your essays and extra-curricular activities, which are much more subjective and prone to luck. If you really feel that this new change is unfair to your particular situation, you can always write an academic explanations essay, as William Osler stated above. The unfortunate truth about applying t
    3 points
  23. Wow, this was so well said! Thank you! This was also exactly my point ... UofT assesses GPA competitively, but just removing 2.0 FCE gives limited flexibility and only values people who already have a VERY HIGH gpa and a few poor grades. What if you had a bad year because of extenuating circumstances but recovered after the following years? Isn't this type of consistency and resilience valued despite the fact that they went through a few setbacks in life but then had the energy to recover? "June 23, 2020, from 5:00 to 6:00 p.m. EDT (webinar details TBA) to learn more about this current and f
    3 points
  24. DrOtter

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    reading this honestly warms my heart so much. I'm a new immigrant too from a developing country. My parents are from the healthcare background at home but here they're just blue-collar workers on minimum wages. We've been living modestly my entire life and I have found it slightly difficult in the past to mix with my more affluent peers in different programs I found myself in. I have been just a little anxious about how I would fit in in med school but if my past experiences have been any indication, you finally find your clique with people (not necessarily from the same background) who apprec
    3 points
  25. Result: Accepted (VFMP) off the Wait-list 6/8/2020 Geography: IP Early or Regular Deadline: Regular Timestamp: 3:45 PM PST aGPA: 85.1% ~22.5 AQMCAT (CPBS / CARS / BBFL / PSBB): 513 (128/126/129/130)Current Degree (UG/Bachelors/Masters/PhD): SFU Molecular Biology and Biochemistry 2015 ECs: ~34 NAQ last year. Various things: Volunteered at shelters, Big Brother, some clinical volunteering, NSERC (no pubs), helped the elderly, charities etc etc etc. My application included a lot of my hobbies as I tried to paint a picture of who I really am: I like wrenching on cars so I restor
    3 points
  26. It's not false. We don't have the same obligations outside of school. You don't have to think about whether you can afford to re-apply or whether it's time to give up and get a job. You don't have to worry about whether you have the time or luxury to take up a 3rd volunteering opportunity or a research project because you don't have to get a job to pay for tuition. I say "You" and not "people of high SES" because someone who isn't entirely clueless wouldn't have said this. Sure, people have to meet the same criteria. How hard it might be to achieve them is another story. Lighten up.
    2 points
  27. Personally, I think schools should use cutoffs or GPA boxes to avoid the problems inherent in making decisions based off of <0.1 differences in GPA (or even 0.001 once you're on the wire). Can you really argue a 3.9 is better than a 3.8? What about a 3.931 vs. a 3.929? Not with any certainty. I'll be honest, I made course selection decisions during my undergrad largely on the basis of the marking scheme of the course and I'm sure I'm not alone. I don't think comparing degrees and assigning "difficulty" scores is particularly useful. If you want to take about SES bias let's talk about
    2 points
  28. HOLY THAT IS ME! So excited I'm crying! Thank you for the update
    2 points
  29. OP: So you think the narcissism of a significant proportion of medical students is related to the program of study and institution of their undergraduate degree?
    2 points
  30. For sure, UofS has a long standing history of not looking at the GPA after a certain point(used to be 81% but now its 85%..hah, inflation even for pre-meds!). But all that does is just move the decision point to other arbitrary decision points: wouldn't rich/better-off/well connected students then already have an advantage to have stronger non-academics and potential MCAt scores?
    2 points
  31. Does it really matter? If they're sending you home to be nice then you should be appreciative that they're looking out for you. If you're not doing well and they tell you to leave, you might as well or they'll just be more annoyed with you.
    2 points
  32. I think if you emailed in English she assumed it was for the English stream, but in either case, I wouldn’t expect there to be much movement in the French stream either! Let’s see what happens, hopefully sooner than later!
    2 points
  33. Depends on the clerk. I've sent some home to save them from scut work with zero educational value but I've also sent some home for being of zero value lol.
    2 points
  34. I decided on UoT. While it will be more expensive and the commute won’t be fun (I don’t plan on moving to Toronto), I felt like the curriculum would suit me better, for one. I have nothing against the spiral curriculum for Mac, I just prefer the segmented approach of UoT. I also felt like the fact that UoT has a fairly heavy front end loaded curriculum in terms of in class leaning, it might be more suitable for our current pandemic restrictions compared toMac, which only has four placements and the first placement in January. I also attended the info sessions for both schools, and I
    2 points
  35. @William Osler up to what your interpretation on equity is. Ask U of T's equity office This is why there will be a large influx in academic explanations essays.
    2 points
  36. I agree with many of the sentiments shared thus far; I think the FCE drop from 4 to 2 will decrease the average wGPA and help differentiate between different applicants. Although, it will also hurt many other applicants who relied on the FCE drops. However, what's more concerning to me is the fact that Winter 2020 courses aren't being accepted. I have 21 units of courses in this semester alone (thesis included) which don't get counted as a mark and that tanks my GPA heavily. I'm going to email admissions about my concerns and also attend the webinar like @greysweater mentioned. If we really wa
    2 points
  37. jccsherby

    PharmD 2020

    Décision d’admission: admise Catégorie de candidat: collégiale Rang: 76 Date du dépôt: 10 juin soir J'ai accepté mon offre, mais j'avais jusqu'au 26 juin pour répondre! J'espère tous vous voir en zoom, teams, etc. ou en présentiel à l'automne!! Bonne chance à tous!
    2 points
  38. Acclimatizing to a French medical academic environment can go beyond vocabulary, as everything needs to be done in French including exams, patient encounters, etc.. Improving fluency in French is essential to be able to have meaningful learning experiences; if material is in English then it's even more important to improve French as translating from a native into a non-native language can be quite tricky, especially complex concepts (the other direction is typically much easier). Some people are raised/submerged in both languages to such an extent that it's not an issue - but many aren't.
    2 points
  39. I got my NWL email at 9:05 am and have not been called. I don't think the timestamp is of any relevance
    2 points
  40. Psych

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    I didn't email about the waitlist, sorry for the confusion! I just asked her a question about the admission conditions, but she replied within 2 hours so hopefully she will answer @newmy88 quickly as well
    2 points
  41. I promise you this is not an ill-intended or malicious attack on your post, but an analysis of your response through the eyes and experience of someone else. "So yes, people admitted within separate groups got in on their own merit, but their self identification or proven identification with one group provided a massive boost." = So yes people got in on their own merit but really not all. Again, you seem to point towards successes being tied directly to race and not merit. "Most BSAP admits, if they were Asian or East Indian, simply would not have had a file review." --> 1. How o
    2 points
  42. Aria

    McGill MDCM (Apartments)

    I lived in a great apartment that was only two metro stops from Mcgill and about a 30 min walk. It's called Le 2100. It's at 2100 Boul de Maisonneuve O. Here is their facebook page https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Real-Estate/Le2100-1567786290211732/. Their website is underconstruction right now but you can still look them up online.
    2 points
  43. No medical school should competitively access any metric, especially something as non-standardized like GPA. The GPA should be assessed in batches of 0.5 or have a cutoff like 3.7 at Western. You could train someone with a 3.7 to be a physician just as well as you could train someone with a 4.0
    2 points
  44. oh god what have i done
    2 points
  45. I just got an offer for the Hamilton campus!!! Timestamp: 14:45 Edit: I just want to say that I wish all of you the absolute best of luck! We were definitely dealt a tough hand this year, but there is still so much positivity on this forum and I believe so much in you all! (I was a little too in shock to write anything more than what I had written before at the time, sorry)
    2 points
  46. kwrgvnq

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    Hi, I know exactly how you feel. And your story is not as rare and unique as it may seem. I myself am also Muslim woman of colour and the anxiety I feel about fitting in with my classmates is real. But you got into med school. You out competed hundreds of applicants regardless of the hardships that you have gone through. You have achieved what many people can only dream of. The fact that you got into med school despite your circumstances means that you belong here. Everyone who got into med school is unique and different and belongs exactly where they are. You will without a doubt find g
    2 points
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  48. Today I received a letter saying that I am waitlisted for Dal OT. Finally hear from them!
    2 points
  49. Just got offered niagra campus! Good luck to everyone!
    1 point
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