ftronic got a reaction from bearpuppy in Chances At Usmd? Canadian, 516 Mcat, 3.9 Sgpa, Msc
Honestly, if your goal is medicine in Canada, just rewrite the MCAT. Much less expensive and time consuming in the long run than going all-in with American schools. List looks fine, and you probably have a decent shot at some of those schools, but they are also going to wonder why the CARS is low (especially as a Caucasian, i.e., presumably English as your first/only language?).
ftronic reacted to MountainAmoeba in Having Some Second Thoughts About Medicine Due To "better" Options Elsewhere?
It's all about what you value. And only you can decide. I wrestled with similar thoughts, and now at thirty one I am pursuing medicine. Be reflective, and honest with yourself about what you value. There is no one best path, and everything has uncertainty. It would be terrible to end up at fifty and unhappy with where you are. Life is a process, so be open to it. Only you can decide what matters. Good luck in choosing.
ftronic reacted to Bambi in Having Some Second Thoughts About Medicine Due To "better" Options Elsewhere?
Both fields are well paying and if med, you will be able to repay relatively quickly. Money should not be a consideration in the circumstances. You want to live with no regrets, therefore, self-reflect, consider your options after you receive at least one acceptance, and then follow your gut. Should you not receive any acceptances (which does happen with stellar candidates - as lady luck plays her role), you can follow the other path and decide if you wish to reapply down the road. Good luck!
ftronic reacted to ArchEnemy in Having Some Second Thoughts About Medicine Due To "better" Options Elsewhere?
I highly doubt that any admissions committee will hold it against you if you turned down their offer to pursue your passion, if you decide to reapply after a few years.
To the contrary, I would say that your work/life experiences beyond academia will be seen as a bonus and will bring diversity to your class. Don't let this be the reason you chose not to pursue your other interests!
ftronic reacted to Arztin in Having Some Second Thoughts About Medicine Due To "better" Options Elsewhere?
There is no way to know if you will regret it or not for sure until you are in it, but I agree with Fresh Fry said, especially <<This will sound cliched but it is something I have found to be absolutely true: if there is something you love as much, or more, than medicine (and especially surgery) -> do that. >>
Keep in mind this:
- the training is long. You frequently hear about people doing 2 fellowships after residency. One story I heard this week: cardiologist who had to do 2 x 2 year fellowships. In other words, the guy did whatever they did before med school, 4 years of med school, and then 6 years of residency and 4 years of fellowship. IMO, that is starting to be a bit of a waste of his precious lifetime.
I am not aware of any negative impact by refusing, but do realize that an acceptance this year cannot guarantee another acceptance in the future.
ftronic reacted to Fresh fry in Having Some Second Thoughts About Medicine Due To "better" Options Elsewhere?
This will sound cliched but it is something I have found to be absolutely true: if there is something you love as much, or more, than medicine (and especially surgery) -> do that. The only way to get through this is the knowledge that there is nothing else. No word of a lie I have thought about bailing on this every single day for things like being a janitor or collecting bottles, i couldn't imagine if there was something else I was talented at that paid reasonably that I could switch too. Most of the times these are just passing thoughts, other times they are seriously alluring. This isn't a "job" it is not a"career" it is something much more (not to pump it up and sound all douchy) and at 0300 in the morning on your 7th night on call in 3 weeks when you have to go see the whiny hernia lady who's husband is an obnoxious prick and insists that you reassure him that she isn't in adrenal fatigue, you may just walk out the door and head home if this isn't the only thing you want to do.
ftronic reacted to indefatigable in Having Some Second Thoughts About Medicine Due To "better" Options Elsewhere?
Financial perspective is important but shouldn't necessarily dictate your career choice. That being said, there are some possible details worth considering: the software jobs are in high cost areas so direct comparison may be misleading; lifecycle of a software engineer is usually relatively short -long term would have to move into management; if there's a boom, there can always be a bust. Maybe try to reevaluate what drew you to medicine vs software without thinking of your perceived financial loss. Finally, as far as I know there's usually no adverse effects of refusing an offer (but some schools like Ottawa have interview limits), but since medicine becomes more competitive each year it may be harder to reach the stage you're at now in the future.
ftronic reacted to BoopityBoop in Having Some Second Thoughts About Medicine Due To "better" Options Elsewhere?
Congratulations on all your success both in terms of interviews and in the tech industry! I think to answer your question, you really have to ask yourself a few things:
1. What do I want my future to look like? Can I imagine really liking medicine enough to do residency, to be on call, and work potentially crazy hours until I retire?
Yes you can choose a "life-style" speciality, but if you wanted life style from your career, I'm more than sure a career in software will assure that in no-time with less debt.
2. If you knew you were going to die from cancer 7 years from now, would you still go to medical school and pursue medicine?
If you talk to a lot of physicians, they would agree that what you gain at the end of all the studying, late nights, and endless exams is not worth it. Actually in a survey of surgeons in all specialities, at least 40% of them said they wouldn't want their child to pursue a career in medicine. Now some surgical specialities were higher in percentage and some lower, but this just speaks volume about how tough the road is.
3. What is the flexibility with each career?
With a MD degree you could take it several ways beyond clinical practice. You can become a full time researcher, become a professor that teaches med students, become school administrator (dean), become a politician, become a hospital administrator and probably few more I can't think of. You never know what will happen to you in the future, and you need a career that's adaptable so that you can still earn a living. Is a career in software flexible enough to allow you to adapt to unforeseen circumstances? What's the career length of someone in the field of software? Is it cut throat? Or is it similar to engineering?
These are just a few of the questions from the top of my head and I'm sure others will have plenty to contribute, but most of the dilemma I suspect, will revolve around the first 2 questions. I personally know that if I could imagine my self in another career besides medicine, I would do that instead of medicine.
Hope this helps! And if you are passionate about both fields and think your "work" won't be like work at all, then consider yourself lucky! Most people spend their whole life trying to find a career that makes them happy, but will also make a living.
ftronic got a reaction from ihsh in Having Some Second Thoughts About Medicine Due To "better" Options Elsewhere?
I posted this on SDN because I thought more people would see it, but the schools I applied to were mostly Canadian (and I am a Canadian). Basically, I have been pretty successful this cycle in terms of interviews and though I have no official acceptances yet, I am pretty likely to get at least one. Part of me really wants to go through with it, especially after putting so much time and effort into getting to this point, but part of me wants to go into the tech industry.
My bachelor's was in computer science, and my interest in medicine came later through some research experiences and courses I took. The more I considered and researched medicine as a career, the more I wanted to do it, and I do think I would be good at it. However, my interest in software has continued as well, and despite not actively looking for a job I've had interview offers at good companies (in Silicon Valley, Seattle, etc.). If I set my mind to it and brush up my skills, I'm pretty confident I could get back into the field within a couple of months.
Now that I'm just a step away from reaching my goal of going to med school, I wonder if I'm making a big mistake by not going into software instead (specifically machine learning-related applications). Instead of making a good salary for the next 4 years, I'll be going into significant debt. Then, I'll be spending another 4-5 years in residency, likely living like a student, and still making less than I would be in tech. I probably will never recover from the opportunity cost from a financial perspective, but more than that, I honestly feel like tech and machine learning is at a turning point right now, changing almost all industries (including medicine), and it feels like it's "now or never" to be a part of it.
Any advice in this situation? Particularly, do you know if schools in Canada keep a record of acceptances, and if I turned down an acceptance, would that be a big negative (or even bar me completely) from applying to that school 2-3 years down the road?