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  1. Questions from private messages that I'm just getting around to now. Apologies for the delay. "...what extracirriculars would you suggest I get invloved with while in dental school consisidering how busy things can get?" I touched on this earileir in the thread but I'll re-itterate it here. I did not have very many ECs and, to be honest, nether did the majority of the people in my class that applied to OMFS. ECs tend to be, based on what I hear, more critical for ortho, endo, peds etc. With OMFS, to get that first step in the door (interview) it really is a numbers gam
  2. "...what's a good number of interviews that puts me in a good position to match?" As you can imagine, there isn't a very straightforward answer to this. So many variables are at play. But generally, I would say that 8-10+ puts you in a good position, statistically. But keep in mind that if you are bombing each of your 8-10+ interviews without knowing it, those statistics don't really matter. Don't get caught up on the number of interviews too much as a safety net. Reflect and do your best to learn from your first couple of interviews about things that worked/things that didn't, and implem
  3. Interesting question. During interviews, I ran into maybe 1-2 people that had a DMD/DDS as well as a MD (or DO) degree. Based on talking to them it seems that they were primarily, if not only, applying to 4-year programs. Not sure what the policy on this is at my program or at other 6-year programs, to be honest. I perceive having the MD as a benefit, especially for 4y programs. With 6y programs it may get tricky depending on what their policy is. I would contact programs directly about this to get a more accurate answer. Good luck.
  4. I interviewed at these programs and that is the only perspective that I can speak from: UNC (6 year): Good scope of practice. Heavy on orthognathics (Dr. Turvey and Dr. Blakey are big names in this field). No Cancer here. They just added a former resident that completed a cosmetics fellowship and recently added a faculty that completed a craniofacial fellowship. So their scope seems to be expanding. Overall the faculty seemed great and there are a lot of them. Residents also seemed great and easy to get along with. Only end up doing about 1.5 years of medical school. I think residents end
  5. This pretty much sums it up. Read some of the previous posts on some more details, but this idea was already addressed. There is a link in a previous post with the stats of the recent match. In my interview season, I ran into about 4-5 Canadians a bunch of times. After you take care of all your numbers (GPA, CBSE, Rank), as a Canadian, the idea is to apply broadly and land as many interviews as possible. A small caveat...the whole the idea of being well-rounded and volunteering a bunch only goes so far with OMFS applications, from my experience. Most of the time no one cares. That's not t
  6. "...if you can recommend how many months of studying would be necessary for a non-medical school based dental school student to get 205-220 (72-80 CBSE) on Step 1, that would be great." There isn't a straight answer for this. I know people that studied for 1 month and scored 94 and some people that studied 12 months and scored 62. The main question is not necessarily "how many months", but how efficiently you use those resources I mentioned in a previous post. The notion that "more time = better score" is not true. You may come to realize this in dental school, because I know I did. To
  7. Let's say you get mid 70 on CBSE, how helpful is that for a 4 year program (since it doesn't have the MD component)? It's very helpful. The CBSE, like mentioned before, is a critical component of applications (some may argue the most important) regardless if its a 4year or 6year program. In my graduating year, of the people that matched, the large majority had 70+, and of that, many had 75+. We had a mix of people some applying to 4, 6 or both. On the interview trail, scores below 70 were relatively uncommon in the grand scheme, regardless of 6y or 4y. With that being said, i
  8. Not sure on that. I'd think the difficulty would be compounded if you were to also try to get hospital privileges. It can get messy. That's huge for you. Basically, you won't have any restrictions on applying to programs since you're treated the same as a citizen. Good luck bud.
  9. There are a fair number that will still accept 2nd years, but it's better to just do them after at least finishing 2nd year of dental school. This cycle, 7 matched from non-US dental school of which 4 were from Canadian dental schools. Remember, that this number does not include all the Canadians that are at US dental schools as they fall into the 212 that matched from US dental schools. Here's a link to the stats for those interested. I wouldn't say that American applicants are held to a "much lower standard". People not matching with a 70CBSE and 3.8GPA doesn't seem like a low standard
  10. Medstar: A fantastic 4year program. Traditional scope training in a nice part fo DC. Fantastic group of residents. A great faculty as well. Lots of trauma and the on-call schedule is pretty demanding but not a single resident complained about it. Maybe 8-10 call days a month. Very approachable faculty as well. Both the chair and PD seemed like great people to work with. I would consider this one of the top (if not the top) 4y programs in the country. Jefferson: Solid program with both 4-year and 6-year spots. A very faculty-driven program. Philly is a great city. Residents seemed like a g
  11. Sure. What exactly did you want to know? That list is a good place to start. I'd recommend first reading what you can about the programs based on their websites and the "OMFS Programs Overviews" thread on SDN. Also, like I mentioned earlier, check to see if they are indeed Canadian-friendly during your application cycle. Things change from year to year. If you have specific questions regarding any of the bolded programs, ask away.
  12. What dental school GPA is competitive for OMFS? This really varies. Obviously, the higher the better. Generally speaking though I would really recommend trying your best to stay above the 3.7 mark. But even then, I know people that matched with 3.6 but had good CBSE scores (70+). A good CBSE can make up for mediocre GPA, but only so much. But with that all being said, I would say that at least 50% of the people that applied to OMFS from my year had GPA 3.9+ and CBSE scores of 75+. Things get competitive for OMFS applications. Is undergraduate GPA an aspect that could be brought u
  13. How does the match work? Basically, after your interviews you rank the programs based on where you'd like to go. Use no other tactic to rank places otherwise it can burn you. Programs create their own rank lists based on who they interviewed. An algorithm is applied to the lists and you match (or don't match). Refer to these to get a better understanding: - https://www.natmatch...utoverview.html - https://www.natmatch...s/aboutalg.html Is it important that I rank certain schools higher? Again, always rank based on where you would like to go, not where you felt your interview wen
  14. How difficult is it to get into a 1-year non-categorical internship for OMFS? And what is the likelihood interns match into OMFS the following year? There a fair number of positions. I'm not sure on the application to acceptance ratio. Applying usually requires you sending the program a CV, personal statement and CBSE score (if you have taken it). Many interns match every year. They can match to the program they interned some times (even though there are some programs like UT-Southwestern that has a policy of not taking their interns). Are there any differences between the 4 and 6 year
  15. (more PM questions) So which are the Canadian friendly universities? May be semantics, but many OMFS are not university affiliated. Some are, but the universal thing is that they are all hospital affiliated (usually at least 2-3 affiliations). Of the 60+ programs in the USA, there are some that are considered Canadians friendly as they have had a history of matching a Canadian here and there. Here is the list based on when I applied, but keep in mind that things change from year to year, so the best thing to do is to contact programs yourself during your application cycle to get a confirm
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