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Negura Bunget

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  1. Apologies for the late reply. This will change from year to year. Best thing is to email program coordinators and confirm their policy.
  2. Not personally. But most of the time its either an institutional issue where that surgical procedure has been done by another service historically at the hospital (cosmetics, flaps, craniofacial) or a true credential issue (not having a medical degree). Thing vary from hospital to hospital.
  3. Interesting. Those are low scores. Not even a pass for the Step 1. Your only shot really would be a 4y at that stage, which handicaps you further in terms of the number of programs available to apply to. Not sure what program that is or if they already did non-cat year(s), but that is not an anecdote to use as a bench mark for sure. There are many US applicants with scores in the 70s that go unmatched. Anecdotally, when I was interviewing some years back (12 programs), I'd say the large majority of applicants were in the 70s. The few Canadians I met along the interview trail were either
  4. I'm a midlevel OMFS resident at a MD-integrated 6 year program in the states and went to a US dental school. I was accepted to both UofT and Western in my application year but decided to head down south, and I don't regret it at all. I can tell you that many people I know that went to Western and UofT have struggled to match to OMFS. Most are stuck doing multiple non-cat years or just gave up. Your overall chances of matching to a US OMFS program out of a US dental school are better than from a Canadian dental school (though its still super difficult right now to match w/o US citizenship or p
  5. 1. Not hard to extern as a Canadian at all. Look into programs you are interested in externing at and email them about their policy on non-US citizens. Typically, programs aren't too strict about citizenship stuff for externships. It can be an issue for actual residency for sure down the road. 2. Yes. It's essentially a necessity to do externships (~5weeks at 2-3 different places) for OMFS applications. Id try to extern at least some places (if not all) in the US just to demonstrate that you are willing to come south of the border. Also, for the most part, you'll find you can expose your
  6. I would agree with that. 75 is probably a better goal. It’s getting harder and harder to match at a Canadian to OMFS and the CBSE are trending upwards. Anecdotally, of the Canadians that I know that matched over the past 5 years, average CBSE was ~78.
  7. I can only speak for OMFS, but I don’t know of any programs or heard of any programs cherry picking the last two years. Also, for most schools your GPA is pretty much determined after the first ~2 years, at least the bulk of it. For OMFS applications to the US, a GPA >3.85 and a CBSE >70 are pretty much a nessesity for Canadians applying to OMFS.
  8. Its not that competitive in the US at least. People tend to match to it pretty easily (one person from my graduating class matched with a GPA in the low 3s). It also isn't a highly sought out specialty these days. Only 2 people applied to it from my graduating class some years ago (compared to the 15+ that applied to ortho, 10+ for OMFS, etc). Also, 100 applications for 3 spots isn't really considered competitive. You need to consider the total number of spots in the country available for that specialty. As a comparison, most OMFS programs are receiving 300+ applications for ~2-3 spots.
  9. It probably depends on the specialty. Some are more competitive than others. I'd assume Ortho, OMFS are pretty competitive. I don't know anything about Endo. Perio I'd assume is not very competitive.
  10. Yup, so really its just the 6y programs that will look at your UG grades. For many programs, the MD admissions committee is a part of the selection process from the start; sometimes they interview applicants on interview day. But, no I don't think you would be held to the same standard. Some programs probably do have a minimum, but I'd still assume that they'd care way more about the CBSE since its obviously a much better indicator of your ability to pass the the Step 1 and a more recent refection of your work ethic.
  11. Just bumping this so people can ask questions here rather than PM-ing me.
  12. There is more of an opportunity to specialize especially in some of the more competitive specialties. Additionally, the training you get within those specialties tends to be a wider scope of training than one would get in most Canadian programs; at least from an OMFS perspective.
  13. Nope. Enjoy your time right now. Once dental school starts pace yourself and do well in dental school courses. No need to worry about OMFS stuff at this point. D1-2: Do well in dental school. Shadow here and there at your local OMFS dept and hospital to get a feel of things. D2-3: Study hard and do well on the CBSE (70+). This takes presendece over shadowing and any other extracirriculars. D3-4: Look into and do some exterships. A total of ~5 weeks is a good number. D4: Interview. Match.
  14. Yeah, something along those lines of visa first then GC. Tbh I'm not totally familar with the procress, but many people have got it done in the past w/o issue. Some programs offer the TN or H1B during residency which is a bit of a bonus. I'm just focusing on residency as this point.
  15. Yes and No. There is really no answer to this question. Certain dental schools tend to pump out a lot of people that go into specialties. The age old question is: Do these schools just attract people interested in specializing from the outset? Personally, just based on the way programs directors and faculty speak about certain schools, I do believe there is a certain edge (minimal), but its all heavily debated. I feel that school name helps an applicant that already has a solid application; it just adds that "extra punch", if you know what I mean. You'll see in the interviews, school
  16. Id agree that an 80 would truely make you a competitive applicant as a Canadian. Some places, regarless of your CBSE score wont invite you for the interview due to their hospital policy regarding dishing out visas. With regard to the international vs Canadian, I'd say that most of the internationally trained dentists are matcing into 4y programs. Their visa issues are far more complicated than a Canadians. With Canadians, its more of a formailty, just an expensive and annoying formaility from the programs perspectve. So I'd venture to think that Canadians have a better shot at 6y programs than
  17. Yes, many porgrams will look at undergrad grades, but may not put that much of an emphasis on it. It just differs from program to program. I know people that have matched to 6y programs with less than ideal undergrad GPAs. Mediocre undergrad grades should not deter you from applying to a 6year program. It can potentially help your application if it is OMFS related. Likely not going to be a game changer, unless is was major reserach that you pressnted at AAOMS and won awards for, etc. The way I see it, only do research if you like reserach. I don't particularly enjoy rese
  18. Not really since I never looked into them. I do know that GPRs can vary greatly in both quality and scope. It comes down to what your goals are. I don’t know about Canada, but GPRs are not typically hard to match to.
  19. No similarity. Just differences. OMFS is a broad scope surgical specialty that includes maxillofacial trauma, orthognathic surgery, TMJ pathology, head & neck path, dentoalveolar, etc. It is a hospital-based residency that lasts 4-6 years. Endo is a specialty primary dealing with the tooth from a microscopic perspective (RCT, Apicoectomies, etc.) . Residency is usually 2 years and is not hospital based. Both are pretty competitive to match to. Can’t speak much regarding Endo, but for OMFS the CBSE, your GPA and your rank are probably the three most important things to cons
  20. "Surgical work" is a broad phrase. If your interests in the scope of OMFS are there, then why settle for something else. Orthognathics, TMJ, trauma, path, dentoalveolar etc. If OMFS checks all the boxes for the scope you want, then that should be the goal. Sure, if I had initially gone to medical school, I likely would have pursued ENT, which initself is very competative. But the scope of OMFS is one of the most unique in surgery. I dont regret anything. What programs does not provide a stipend? Just curious. Just hard to belive. OMFS isnt like ortho or peds, where some programs pro
  21. That only applies if you are looking at the medical school tuition associated with 6 year programs. That tution varies greatly from school to school and different programs make you do different amounts of medical school (Some 1.5, some 2, some 2.5, etc). Outside of the ~2 years of medical school, you are paid a stipend via the hospital at all OMFS programs in the states (GME funded). It ends up being: 6 year program: ~4 years of stipend and 2 years of tution for a 6year prgram 4 year programs: Stipend for all 4 years ; no tution. Personally, I paid an additional total of
  22. Right. And the number of botched, half-drilled, impacted thirds I have seen infuriate the majority of the OMFS residents out there that end up seeing them in clinic to fix someone else's mess. It happens alot. I'm biased, but I really have a hard time seeing how OMFS is really affected. T+T are important to private practice OMFS, no doubt, but it's a tiny part of the OMFS scope. Sure orthognathics, trauma, deep neck I&Ds, H&N path may not be as luctrative, but to say that OMFS will be "hardest hit" because some GPs are extracting 3rd molars is ridiculous. The moment most GPs see
  23. I went to the University of Pennsylvania. Not sure yet. To be totally honest, the scope of practice for OMFS is generally better in the US. Just more opportunities to do what you like/pursue fellowships. Even with residency programs, outside of a couple, most Canadain OMFS programs are geared towards residents pursuing private practice (which is what most grads end up doing in both the US and Canada). So I really dont know. If I'm aiming to do private practice, then sure I'll be back home in a heart beat. But to get hospital privliges in Canada, specfially Ontario, is a mess and its a hug
  24. I'd like to be a resource for people. Something that I never had. Feel free to ask any questions regarding the application process, CBSE, 4 vs 6, interviews, grades, etc. I'm a mid-level resident at a 6 year program. NB
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