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  1. Hi all, In America I know it is pretty common for both anesthesia and PM&R grads to pursue pain medicine fellowships. I was wondering in Canada if PM&R commonly pursues pain fellowships? I noticed many of these fellowships in Canada are housed in Anesthesia departments, but was wondering how common it is for PM&R (and other specialties like IM) to apply given that it is available as a fellowship through the medical subspecialty match now? Alternatively, can PM&R residents tailor their electives to feel competent in chronic pain management (+/- interventional pain man
  2. I'll try to explain it how I conceptualize it in my head: To become a Family doctor (FM) it takes 2-years after medical school (excluding +1 years). Residency for most specialties is 5-years (4 if you do IM without subspecialty -> but GIM can be 5-years if you go down that route). Therefore, there is a difference, on average, of three years where the FM is making attending income while the specialist is only making resident income. Because there is a wide spectrum of incomes within an individual specialty it is hard to say who will come out ahead or how long it would t
  3. I've been considering this same question. Keeping the conversation separate from if you should invest with a LOC, OSAP makes you report your assets, which includes your TFSA and non-tax sheltered accounts. So I think there would be some deductions due to reporting this (though I think there is a max they expect you to contribute?), as there is no line on OSAP to report how much debt you hold. Another factor to consider is how it would impact your potential for financial aid from your school as well (who may or may not consider your debt:asset ratio). So you would have to figure out if the pote
  4. One protective factor in Canada is that we do not have the "degree mill" programs like they do in America. We have a limited number of PA and NP programs, and for our NP programs, the RN needs clinical experience before being accepted (e.g., 2-years nursing experience). Frustration on those forums seems, in part, to stem from the degree mills that are flooding the market with clinicians, who those forums would argue are undertrained. Discussing this issue with clinicians in Canada, it seems that our version of NPs/PAs are well trained and competent. Scope issues and fights will always be a thi
  5. Hoping that we can keep this thread on topic regarding my specific questions pertaining to the job duties of a general pathologist. While I appreciate the openness of hearing about the non-ideal pathology job market, this discussion often emphasizes the academic job market, anatomical pathology, and IMG candidates. It has been thoroughly covered in other threads, and I’m hoping we can learn something new that hasn’t been discussed before in this forum on this thread. I’m hoping to learn about the GP role in community hospitals, not in the large city, academic centres, and CMG candidates
  6. A few questions about general pathology. During MS1 I was able to shadow a few anatomical pathologists and surprisingly enjoyed what I observed, so I am now considering pathology as a specialty. However, I do not want to work in an academic hospital, nor live in a major city (Toronto, Vancouver, etc). My understanding is that general pathology is better for community pathologists (especially outside of Ontario). I understand what the anatomic pathology side of general pathology entails, and the tasks associated with it from my shadowing. I also know theoretically that the CP side of pathology
  7. Most doctors who work at hospitals would not be considered employees. I think it would also be important to note that "employee" has a legal meaning where the employer is required to provide benefits and is subject to employee/employer labour legislation. Most doctors work essentially as independent contractors. If a doctor is working in a hospital they generally have "privileges" to work in the hospital. Basically they exchange call coverage for the ability to provide care (and the associated OHIP billings) in the hospital. Now correct me if I am wrong, but within the organizational structure
  8. Actually depends on where you are in Canada (for access to different provincial programs) and your residency. For example, family medicine residents and physician can have up to $8,000 per year of student loans forgiven up to $40,000 if they complete up to 400 hours or 50 days a year in a rural location (https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/canada/employment-social-development/migration/documents/assets/portfolio/docs/en/student_loans/forms/forgiveness.pdf). If you pay off your student loans on your LOC you would not have access to this forgiveness program. Make sure you consider your unique situ
  9. That is a good outlook to have for now. Shadowing in the Winter was definitely more useful compared to the fall as you definitely had more clinical knowledge under your belt to make sense of what was going on (ITM in the fall is useful for background info and introducing you to medical school and how physicians think, but it isn't until you get to CPC that the really useful clinical information starts being taught in class/clinical skill/CBL). In the past we have been able to shadow at non-UofT affiliated hospitals. During the fall, you'll get a lecture that goes over all the procedures for ho
  10. While true that that is what they communicated for shadowing, I think its important to read between the lines a bit and not let your hopes get too high (and maybe be pleasantly surprised if they allow it). Note that I'm not trying to be argumentative or contrarian, just trying to share what I know, which is formed partly from my experiences at UofT last school year. What I "know" could be wrong, dated, or misinformed. My understanding through previous communications is that UofT is prioritizing the current clerkship students in clinical settings. Due to the pause in clinical activities
  11. Anatomy labs at UofT are not truly in person. The usual modules that we’d do in person with prosections and dissection are online. There are optional guided prosections with a TA that you can sign up for in addition to the online content to do in person. Basically, you don’t need to be in Toronto for the Fall, it’s possible to do it all online and they’re even polling us to understand our time zones for test start times. Shadowing for the time being is still not allowed (not up in the air, wouldn’t expect it to be allowed until the winter either). Edit: from the second year
  12. Someone feel free to correct this as I am not a PHPM specialist, I am just speaking from my research and what I have been told by PHPM specialists during tutorials. The general format of most PHPM residencies that you can find by viewing CARMS descriptions follows something like this: PGY1: Family medicine year PGY2: Family medicine year At this point you'd be able to write the CFPC exams I think and register as a family doctor. PGY3: Graduate degree year (seems to generally be a MPH and I believe you can also make extra money working as a family doctor if you have
  13. Hi mavrik13, thank you for offering to answer some questions. I am a current M2 with some exposure to rad onc through shadowing and am interested in the field, but I have some questions I hope you can address. 1. On the Student Doctor Network, there is an alarmingly pessimistic attitude towards rad onc primarily directed towards the job outlook in the US context. As it is on SDN I want to take it with a grain of salt, but the concerns relate to the over training of the number of rad onc residents (and to some extent with profit-driven healthcare and radiation oncologists being the down s
  14. UofT mentioned during a webinar to 2T3s that the fall would be mostly online. It was unclear at the time if it was entirely online, or with “optional” in person experiences for things like anatomy. UofT seems concerned about a second wave and mentioned winter likely having online components as well. They mentioned that they’d give students ample warning to arrange living if they require us to be in person in Toronto.
  15. Thanks for this write up! As NOSM continues to supply new graduates to the North year after year, do you foresee this practice style to be sustainable for new family medicine grads (I.E., mix of inpatient, clinic, walk-in, for others ER/OB/etc)? That is, do you predict that there will be plenty of practice opportunities for new grads in rural (or northern urban) locations in the coming years, perhaps with new grads being offset by retirements of older physicians and physicians moving away? Or is there a possibility that we see the non-specialist physician job market it Northern Ontario ti
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