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  1. Internationally trained dentists can apply to some GPRs (not sure exact numbers) in the US. Here's one example: https://dental.tufts.edu/academics/postgraduate-programs/pass-application
  2. Oh I don't doubt you can make big bucks in Canada. My only point was that on average dentists make significantly more in the US so having the US at your disposal is a significant pro. A similar rural vs city income dichotomy exists in the US except the whole scale is pushed higher relative to Canada, making city life less sacrificial compared to working in Canada's big cities. A lot of factors go into this a couple being saturation differences and less regulation in price guides. Again, whatever works for the individual. If you're willing to live and work wherever as long as that's where the m
  3. Subscribing to the online version of the ADEA Dental school explorer ($25) is a good start: https://www.adea.org/officialguide/. It identifies which schools are "Canadian Friendly" (does the school itself consider itself Canadian friendly) and if they accept the cDAT. Important dates is best to get straight from the application service, AADSAS since it's a common application for all dental schools (the soft open for this cycle has already begun). In terms of advice on taking the American DAT, it's a personal choice. Most schools that you will have a good chance at as a Canadian will also
  4. I agree with @JohnGrisham that Australia is generally cheaper than the US based on tuition. But you also have to look at the big picture. In Australia the programs are 5 years. That means one more year of accruing interest without making an income. Going to a US dental school also allows you the opportunity to work in the US, which is close to home and has a much higher average income for general dentists and specialists even before converting back into the Canadian dollar. (The most reputable stats from each country's dental association I could find are these: the mean income for general dent
  5. Hopefully some adjustments will be made with Covid in mind. Good luck to you and I hope to hear any updates with your situation!
  6. I'm not sure if this plays a role in the programs' inflexibility but the norm in the US is that you take NBDE part 2 between 3rd and 4th year and the continued expectation is that future students take the INBDE at this time as well. So from the programs' perspective most applicants should already have their boards completely done. It is not very collaborative of Canadian schools to restrict students writing their boards until it is too late
  7. To get my DENTPIN I was instructed to go to this site https://www.ada.org/en/education-careers/dentpin. If you click on "DENTPIN Registration" on the left hand side that should take you through all the steps. When I click through now it only has a statement about being a dental student which you can check off, which you wouldn't check off being a pre-dent. It is only when you check this off that it asks for your dental school info. Let me know if you're still having trouble.
  8. I agree with everyone above. Losing a year of dental tuition before starting med school will do way more damage than any part time job can come close to making up for. Assuming you stay in one program all 4 years and you manage your budget I think it is possible to also make extra cash on the side. I know students who work at gyms, the school library, and of course TA previously taken courses. If you are hankering for supplemental income I would suggest something where you can choose your own hours like teaching ESL online. This means no commitment so you are never stretched too thin. There ar
  9. Looking at my old application I just left it blank
  10. One American school's situation: At Tufts, 3rd and 4th years will be returning for clinic June 1st. 1st years are virtual for the fall semester (decided a while ago) and today we were told 2nd years will also be virtual. There's been a lot of pushback from students, but because the clinic will be operating at half capacity the 3rd and 4th years will need to utilize the preclinical areas as well (while maintaining proper social distancing). This means there simply will not be room for 1st and 2nd years. The hope is to front load didactic courses and dedicate the winter to hand skills cours
  11. I believe the Canada GPA adjustment you're referring to is actually the difference in percentage to letter grade conversion between the two countries. Because for example an 81% would be an A- --> 3.7 in Canada but a B- --> 2.7 in the US it would be unfair to convert your percentage using the US conversion table to calculate your GPA. So the "higher conversion" is using your Canadian school's conversion system to first calculate your letter grades and then GPA (I tried to exemplify this with a table below but UBC's conversion system may be slightly different than my own Canadian Undergra
  12. I agree with others that being an incoming dental student you have to remember to take one step at a time. Everyone around me has said get through first year before you look to add to your plate. However, I understand the desire to do all that you can to set yourself up for success in the future. Once school starts for you there will likely be many "lunch and learns" on a variety of topics including specialties and building your own practice. These are good baseline introductions to material and to individuals you can reach out to and ask questions one on one. If you are looking to do more bef
  13. The evaluation is to determine if you have enough of a science background to jump into the 4 year program instead of 5 year. If they don't believe you have enough of a foundation, you are automatically considered for the 5 year program. The 5 year program does not use the evaluation as a factor for admissions. I can't speak to if a couple topics will make or break your chances at the 4 year program. From my own experience I was able to put a course for every topic, so I know my experience isn't helpful. But at the end of the day it does not effect your chances at the 5 year program at al
  14. The boards are being integrated moving forward (not separated into 2 parts)! Also I just did a quick search and discovered Dalhousie is a location for the CDCA exam. Maybe this is going to become a trend at other Canadian schools as we see more collaboration with the US (eg. several schools joining the AADSAS application). This part is just speculation but there is a conversation going on about stopping patient based examinations due to the ethical implications, so things might be evolving in the future
  15. I agree your stats are enough to at least get an interview so it must come down to the subjective aspects of your application. U of T interview invites are so GPA heavy that it's a bit perplexing how you didn't even interview if there are accepted applicants with approximately the same stats. Because Western is more holistic the subjective side is likely the culprit for them. Are there any red flags you can think of? Perhaps a bad reference letter you weren't aware of, weak personal statement (rushed, unoriginal, bad intent), any issues from undergrad that may show up on your transcript, maybe
  16. That's true for all international dentists. Except the bottom line cost of going to Australia, New Zealand, or Ireland for 4/5 years and then 2 years in the US will be the highest of any other options in the world for practicing general dentistry. We're talking at least $500,000 Canadian but probably more like $600,000 for tuition alone, not including living costs. The incentive of going abroad to such an expensive program is that it is sufficient training to start working where you want to live. This is probably why we don't see a lot of students from those programs in the IS 2 year prog
  17. If they are doing rolling admissions like the US there will be frequent interview days every few weeks with invites going out about month before each respective interview. US schools can have interviews going till March or April until their class is solidified. If UBC is doing the same, anticipating when the next round is going to be sent out is going to give you more anxiety than it is worth. Hang tight guys!
  18. I agree the agreement's language seems ambiguous and somewhat misleading. My interpretation is that they recognize schools directly accredited by the agency that is CDAC, not indirectly by another agency (ADC). In your earlier post its says "In addition, the following general dentistry programs are also considered accredited: Effective March 30, 2010, general dentistry programs accredited by CDAC or the Australian Dental Council (ADC)." I think that "or" may indicate that Australian schools can be accredited by the ADC and be recognized as accredited, but it was not actually accredited by the
  19. I found this on an American dental forum. This post was made in 2010 when the agreement was newly in place. I think this definitively states Aussie graduates cannot practice in the US as of right now. I have seen that some Australian schools are looking for CODA (US) accreditation so this may change: Just to clarify, I e-mailed the ADA's accreditation section the question of whether the ADC and CDAC agreement had an indirect effect . They said:"Your message was forwarded to me as I am the accreditation manager for international accreditation. The reciprocity agreement between CDAC
  20. I had a similar situation as you with one C+ and (and 4 B range grades) and I was accepted into the 4 year program. Even if it was impactful (which I don't think it will be) it would defer you to the 5 year program where the evaluation is not used
  21. When applying last year an Atlantic Bridge representative emailed me saying as follows: The statistics vary from year to year, depending on the candidate pool each year. In essence, the most competitive applicants each year will receive the limited offers, that is probably why it’s difficult to gather those information. I would say above 3.3 is probably starting to get into the competitive range. Back to me: Atlantic Bridge asks for your cGPA with nothing dropped on a 4.0 scale as well as your transcript. Each school likely has their own algorithms for assessing grades but there
  22. Until recently they didn't look at the PAT, so previous applicants other than last year don't really help
  23. Western has just recently started looking at all sections. They used to just look at AA and RC. Their cutoff for RC varied year to year between 18 and 19 depending on the applicant pool. Now that they've updated their DAT assessment there isn't much to go on. However, when schools say they care about a DAT section (or say they care about all sections) I've never seen someone with a 17 or less in said section get accepted. It might be possible but I think it's an easy red flag schools use to start whittling down the applicant pool. Would love to hear if anyone has a story to prove me wrong thou
  24. I agree, I believe American dental schools including specialty programs are well regarded and shouldn't make it difficult to come back. My only concern would be networking. For hospital-based specialties, hospitals may be more likely to hire from their own associated programs because they know the quality of their program and the residents in them. For practice based specialties, faculty members are important resources as potential employers or an important contacts for connecting you with potential employers.
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