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    TheFlyGuy got a reaction from morgmorgmorg in May 11 Countdown Party 2021!   
    Just an offer button with the option to accept/decline it; the letter comes in the e-mail the next morning. 
     
    But ya pretty much this. Button was actually bad last year, which seemed like the opposite of what you'd expect. It looked like this: 
    The stuff in the red box I think everyone had, it was only the "Reset Responses" button which was the #ButtonGate topic and cause of all the panic.
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    TheFlyGuy got a reaction from reginageorge in May 11 Countdown Party 2021!   
    Just an offer button with the option to accept/decline it; the letter comes in the e-mail the next morning. 
     
    But ya pretty much this. Button was actually bad last year, which seemed like the opposite of what you'd expect. It looked like this: 
    The stuff in the red box I think everyone had, it was only the "Reset Responses" button which was the #ButtonGate topic and cause of all the panic.
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    TheFlyGuy reacted to zxcccxz in What stops an outstanding student from getting into medical school?   
    Luck plays a big role for most applicants I think. For someone with a 4.0 GPA, 521 MCAT, and amazing extracurriculars/life experiences, it's really that they have to get terribly unlucky or actively mess up in some part of their application/interview in order to not get an offer at least somewhere after a cycle or two. But most applicants don't fall into this category.
    For most applicants, even the ones with competitive stats, it takes some element of luck in order to get an offer because it's difficult to distinguish yourself from others when you're in the middle of the pack and there isn't any downright compelling reason why any file reviewer would want to give you a better score than anybody else. Having research, extracurriculars, leadership, volunteering etc. are all great, but so many people have all those things that it often just isn't enough. After reading the 178th application with "club president" or "hospital volunteer", all of the applicants kinda just meld together from a file reviewer's perspective. Not to mention that people always embellish their experiences to some degree, so even if you did cure cancer and save the starving children or whatever, unless you can write exquistely about it in your essays/ABS, someone who did a lot less than you can seem the same to a file reviewer if they are just better at selling themselves.
    If I had to advise anyone on how to maximize their chances, I would say that finding a way to distinguish yourself is the best method of reducing the element of luck that applies to most applicants. The people I know who got the most interviews and got accepted in the first round of their first application cycle to their top choice school(s) didn't necessarily have the best stats. I mean sure their stats were still good, but I know two dozen applicants who had better stats that didn't get in. These really successful applicants had things in their file/application that were unique (rather than objectively better) and that helped them stand apart.
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    TheFlyGuy reacted to LostLamb in What stops an outstanding student from getting into medical school?   
    Big element of luck. 
    seriously. 
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    TheFlyGuy reacted to GH0ST in What stops an outstanding student from getting into medical school?   
    They aren't as good of a person as you think they are... that's the simple answer.
     
    Met plenty of high achievers that I wouldn't trust with my life. 
    - G
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    TheFlyGuy got a reaction from Medweeb in What stops an outstanding student from getting into medical school?   
    Partly writing skills for the soft parts of the app, partly (perhaps even mostly) luck. Luck plays an enormous role in the process from start to finish, so after a point it really just comes down to a numbers game; both GPA/MCAT and how many times you apply. Provided you're putting in proper effort into the subjective bits anyways.
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    TheFlyGuy got a reaction from teachdoc in Low GPA. Interviewed this year.   
    Totally feel you. I'm 29 this year too, and took 4 tries & a PhD to get in. There's a crazy amount of luck in the process, and I feel like a lot of people get in first try and never really appreciate that lol, not to mention how people around you on the outside view it not being in the thick of it. Hard to shake that feeling, especially when others just always expect you to succeed and assume it's all on you when things don't work out; but sometimes it really is just a broken process. Doesn't make it fair or easy to accept though, so kudos for sticking with it if it's what you really want. Best of luck in making it happen someday

     
      
    Also, preach.
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    TheFlyGuy reacted to Coviduh19 in Low GPA. Interviewed this year.   
    Honestly, MAC has done so much to make the competition even more difficult for people in lower SES. CASPer is big waste of money. The fact that Mac claims it to have a high predictive power and yet requires you to take the exam every year makes no absolute sense to me. If the MCAT is valid for 5 years, why not implement this for CASPeR, if they claim that it truly tests your “personality,” then it should be more consistent. Also, without releasing the result (Quartile) of this annoying test doesn’t help much either. Secondly, their study  also claimed that CARS has the most “predictive” of clinical/med school abilities, which led to many Canadian schools requiring an insane cut-off. Truly, applying to med school all comes down to LUCK.  I think if we look at our neighbour down the south, I think they certainly do a better job doing a more “holistic” review of their applicants.
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    TheFlyGuy reacted to zoxy in Low GPA. Interviewed this year.   
    Yep. I bet they did it to have the ultimate natural experiment to work with. It's gonna be fun reading the study they publish once their 2023 class graduates that concludes that their MMI is completely useless as well. I wonder what admission tool Mac will use after this.
    I'd bet they'll try come up with something semi-empirical that's even dumber than Casper. I don't know what it is now but I'm sure the geniuses at Mac med will find a way to disappoint me. They've given us the MMI, CASPer, PBL, 3 year medical schools, and the Health Science undergrad. I'm sure whatever it is, I'll hate it.
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    TheFlyGuy got a reaction from DayIsNight in Low GPA. Interviewed this year.   
    I don't have much to offer in terms of advice or solutions, but just wanted to voice support for the idea that the GPA focus in admissions is way overdone. The admissions process often doesn't value real experience and maturity, instead focusing on minute differences in MCAT or GPA scores which mean virtually nothing compared to the softer skills which can actually make for a competent doctor/someone who knows what hey want out of the field. I know that stuff is hard to objectively assess, but that doesn't make the numeric stats a good substitute. So above all don't take this ish personally, the process in this country is inherently broken and has a terrible amount of luck involved, and I wish you the best of luck in overcoming that. Good luck mate
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    TheFlyGuy got a reaction from itski in May 11 Countdown Party 2021!   
    For the last couple years OMSAS has updated @ midnight, but as pointed out above it seems to happen not all at once. For me, right at midnight the only one to do so was Mac, though most others (fairly) quickly followed suit. I think Toronto was last. School-specific portals were also variable, like Western's came up real quick, even before OMSAS, but Queen's was like 1-2 days behind. 
    The only real bummer is that if you don't see any offers @ midnight you don't know whether they're just slow on the update, or you really didn't get an offer. Even then, no way to differentiate between the waitlist and the R, so it can make for a lot of anxiety. My advice is always to just wait for the e-mails to know for sure but... who can resist checking at midnight lmao, I know I didn't
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    TheFlyGuy reacted to mdpwns1763 in Low GPA. Interviewed this year.   
    The luck factor is real! 3rd interview here, expecting the worst. Feels almost random post interview. 
     
    Never understood how it’s possible someone would be taken on their first try over someone who has applied and interview 3+ times. But c’est la vie! 
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    TheFlyGuy got a reaction from Parmesan in Low GPA. Interviewed this year.   
    Totally feel you. I'm 29 this year too, and took 4 tries & a PhD to get in. There's a crazy amount of luck in the process, and I feel like a lot of people get in first try and never really appreciate that lol, not to mention how people around you on the outside view it not being in the thick of it. Hard to shake that feeling, especially when others just always expect you to succeed and assume it's all on you when things don't work out; but sometimes it really is just a broken process. Doesn't make it fair or easy to accept though, so kudos for sticking with it if it's what you really want. Best of luck in making it happen someday

     
      
    Also, preach.
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    TheFlyGuy got a reaction from zoxy in Low GPA. Interviewed this year.   
    Totally feel you. I'm 29 this year too, and took 4 tries & a PhD to get in. There's a crazy amount of luck in the process, and I feel like a lot of people get in first try and never really appreciate that lol, not to mention how people around you on the outside view it not being in the thick of it. Hard to shake that feeling, especially when others just always expect you to succeed and assume it's all on you when things don't work out; but sometimes it really is just a broken process. Doesn't make it fair or easy to accept though, so kudos for sticking with it if it's what you really want. Best of luck in making it happen someday

     
      
    Also, preach.
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    TheFlyGuy reacted to zoxy in Low GPA. Interviewed this year.   
    Stone age thinking and a hold over from years gone by. For example, the use of interviews in medical school admissions has been statistically debunked since the 80's. Yet they still put a huge emphasis on it. For example, it's worth 70 percent of the admissions score at Mac. 
    Even GPA is a poor correlate to performance in medical school. Best correlate has always been the MCAT, specifically the Bio section. Even then, medical school performance doesn't mean someone's going to be a good doctor. It's just a garbage process overall. I wish they'd hold up their hands and admit as much.
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/363832
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    TheFlyGuy reacted to DayIsNight in Low GPA. Interviewed this year.   
    Thank you, that’s a very kind and I appreciate you taking the time to write that. It’s incredibly hard not to take it personally when everyone I went to school with seems to make their way in, and it makes it look like I just “wasn’t good enough” to make it in their eyes. Hard to let that go.
     
    It’s a good question, but my references are definitely good! People I worked with anywhere from 3-8 years for each! 
     
    I completely agree with you here. There’s no way UBC would have done a massive overhaul of admissions, just look at the stats from year to year! The GPA just simply keeps rising higher and higher every year 
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    TheFlyGuy reacted to reginageorge in May 11 Countdown Party 2021!   
    I don't think that's the button we're talking about. I don't think anyone has the reset button this year yet. I meant the red box that says "review and submit changes/responses". do you have it?
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    TheFlyGuy reacted to Scrubadubdub in May 11 Countdown Party 2021!   
    I'm with you all, I felt pretty good immediately after my interview and I've been bummed/ambivalent ever since. I think the ambivalence is my brain trying to protect me haha. I've been rejected before and now I can't imagine myself getting in despite not having any big mess ups in my interview 
    Soooo I had some time to kill and I compiled a list of when offers came up on OMSAS and when emails were sent out on decision day last year lol  It probably fluctuates and changes every year but I guess this gives us a good ball park. 
    McMaster:
    OMSAS updated @ 12 am Accepted emails @ 8:03-8:10 am Waitlist emails @ 8:15-8:18 am Rejected emails @ ???  
    Western:
    Student Centre updated @ 12 am OMSAS did not update before e-mails went out? Accepted emails @ 8:49-9:04 am Waitlist emails @ 9:04-10:45 am Rejected emails at ??  
    University of Toronto:
    OMSAS updated @ 6 am  Accepted/Rejected Emails all together @ 8:53-9:59 am  Waitlist emails a little later @ 10:30 am   
    Ottawa:
    Accepted emails @ 6:40-7:07 am  Waitlist emails @ 7:19-7:54 am  Rejected emails @ ??? OMSAS did not update before e-mails went out  
    NOSM:
    OMSAS updated before 7:30 am  Accepted emails around 7:30 am Rejected emails @ 8:19-8:31 am  
    Queens:
    All emails @ ~ 9:33 am OMSAS did not update before e-mails went out  
    It seems like rejected emails either come out at the same time as accepted emails or they come out shortly afterwards.
    *All times are in eastern standard time
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    TheFlyGuy got a reaction from ImReadyNextCycle in May 11 Countdown Party 2021!   
    For the last couple years OMSAS has updated @ midnight, but as pointed out above it seems to happen not all at once. For me, right at midnight the only one to do so was Mac, though most others (fairly) quickly followed suit. I think Toronto was last. School-specific portals were also variable, like Western's came up real quick, even before OMSAS, but Queen's was like 1-2 days behind. 
    The only real bummer is that if you don't see any offers @ midnight you don't know whether they're just slow on the update, or you really didn't get an offer. Even then, no way to differentiate between the waitlist and the R, so it can make for a lot of anxiety. My advice is always to just wait for the e-mails to know for sure but... who can resist checking at midnight lmao, I know I didn't
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    TheFlyGuy got a reaction from Scrubadubdub in May 11 Countdown Party 2021!   
    For the last couple years OMSAS has updated @ midnight, but as pointed out above it seems to happen not all at once. For me, right at midnight the only one to do so was Mac, though most others (fairly) quickly followed suit. I think Toronto was last. School-specific portals were also variable, like Western's came up real quick, even before OMSAS, but Queen's was like 1-2 days behind. 
    The only real bummer is that if you don't see any offers @ midnight you don't know whether they're just slow on the update, or you really didn't get an offer. Even then, no way to differentiate between the waitlist and the R, so it can make for a lot of anxiety. My advice is always to just wait for the e-mails to know for sure but... who can resist checking at midnight lmao, I know I didn't
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    TheFlyGuy got a reaction from naptime98 in May 11 Countdown Party 2021!   
    For the last couple years OMSAS has updated @ midnight, but as pointed out above it seems to happen not all at once. For me, right at midnight the only one to do so was Mac, though most others (fairly) quickly followed suit. I think Toronto was last. School-specific portals were also variable, like Western's came up real quick, even before OMSAS, but Queen's was like 1-2 days behind. 
    The only real bummer is that if you don't see any offers @ midnight you don't know whether they're just slow on the update, or you really didn't get an offer. Even then, no way to differentiate between the waitlist and the R, so it can make for a lot of anxiety. My advice is always to just wait for the e-mails to know for sure but... who can resist checking at midnight lmao, I know I didn't
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    TheFlyGuy got a reaction from MDWoman in May 11 Countdown Party 2021!   
    For the last couple years OMSAS has updated @ midnight, but as pointed out above it seems to happen not all at once. For me, right at midnight the only one to do so was Mac, though most others (fairly) quickly followed suit. I think Toronto was last. School-specific portals were also variable, like Western's came up real quick, even before OMSAS, but Queen's was like 1-2 days behind. 
    The only real bummer is that if you don't see any offers @ midnight you don't know whether they're just slow on the update, or you really didn't get an offer. Even then, no way to differentiate between the waitlist and the R, so it can make for a lot of anxiety. My advice is always to just wait for the e-mails to know for sure but... who can resist checking at midnight lmao, I know I didn't
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    TheFlyGuy reacted to Scrubadubdub in May 11 Countdown Party 2021!   
    Like abcd1288 said, have the day cleared either to celebrate (accepted) or take care of yourself (waitlisted or rejected) if possible. If you're someone who likes to stay busy then plan some activities that you can do.  I took a long walk afterwards all by myself, and that really helped clear my head and put things into perspective.
    I also reminded myself that I didn't owe anyone an explanation. I didn't tell anyone what day the decision came out, I just vaguely said "sometime in May". I took about 4 days before I did tell anyone. I've done the same thing this year. If you haven't told anyone the date yet, I personally wouldn't start or remind anyone. That's just me though and someone else might like people checking in and having those people to talk to as well so think about whats best for you. 
    It can be a tough pill to swallow. Don't feel guilty about experiencing any one of the emotions you may go through. I thought I would take it like a champ, but I felt so entirely hopeless and sad. Be kind to yourself as much as possible. I had to consciously remind myself about how far I came in that cycle and what an accomplishment that was for me in and of itself. 
    After that, in a few days, I thought about my interview again now that I had received my result. I thought about those moments that I didn't do so well and I started to think about what I would want to do if I got a chance to interview again. Focusing on things that I could control really helped me to move forward and improve for my next application cycle. It took my mind off of what I couldn't control (being waitlisted, then rejected) and onto something I could control. I'm planning to do this again after May 11 so that I have something to work on to pull myself out of any potential ruts I get into if I end up being rejected 
    Hope that helps, kind of went off on a tangent a couple times 
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    TheFlyGuy reacted to newmy88 in May 11 Countdown Party 2021!   
    Honestly, #buttongate kept me very busy last year LOL. I’d come home from work and spend an hour or two catching up on the posts, theories, checking OMSAS, etc. It was definitely a time passer that I didn’t mind as I was then an hour or two closer to a decision  
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    TheFlyGuy reacted to PopShoppe in May 11 Countdown Party 2021!   
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