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  1. Haha nothing, I just misquoted by accident! Sorry about that.
  2. If it helps, I have several friends who, throughout their MD undergrad at Mac, were able to make it to Kingston several times a month - and this is at Mac where there are usually no breaks. So I would speculate that it's quite doable the other way around Obviously I wouldn't be able to say for sure, but I also have a few friends at Queens who are also constantly on the move and are doing just fine! Good luck with everything MDLD!
  3. I can't speak for all of the c2022 class, but my friends in c2022 definitely feel very frustrated about it. I guess the general feeling among them is that the education they're receiving is sub-what they were expecting to receive from medical school. Obviously some of that couldn't be helped because of the overwhelming nature of the situation, but there is definitely a general feeling of frustration and worry. The school is what they're doing they can to help, but obviously it might not be enough, especially in a PBL setting. It was also confirmed today in the c2022 townhall that PBL is defini
  4. Mac student here. Although this is speculation, it is likely the most of the fall will be online for first-year students. For c2022s, MF5 is completely online (until September 25th), after which there is great uncertainty in the direction the program wants to go. PBL, procomp, anatomy, and LGSs will all most likely be online. The only thing that is POSSIBLE, and has not even been decided on yet, is very small groups of students coming into learning spaces for clinical skills.
  5. I think everyone is just a bit worried right now I don't think things will be any different. Remember, in the situation we have this year, there are probably more people circulating premed and other online forums, so we're probably only hearing more because more people have taken to these forums. The 2 days we saw were not waves, they were just small trickles of offers probably. I'm not saying that it's going to happen for certain, but there is a big chance that a large wave (and maybe an even bigger one) will happen the day after the OMSAS deadline.
  6. Everyone needs to relax. There is always a large waitlist movement after the OMSAS deadline, and it will be no different this year. If anything, there might be a bigger waitlist movement. I know it's stressful, but take a deep breath - I was on the waitlist too at one point.
  7. In keeping with the post above, I received an offer a week after the big wave. There was a second smaller (though still big enough) wave that occurred, so chances aren't "pretty" low Good luck!
  8. Probably somewhat misleading to say that. Mac students (including myself) have/had plenty of time to do research in the past, and with the time away from actual in-person classes, I imagine whatever difference may have existed is now offset. Obviously that doesn't take away from what drawbacks do exist...but this is not a good reason to discourage someone from going to Mac.
  9. That's fair, but the objective indices are likely not truly representative of Mac's situation going into the future because all of the data is pre-covid, so I'm not sure we can exactly call it "objective". It is most certainly the best data we have, this much is true. But it is not entirely objective data. As well, the arguments against Mac are not really subjective. It is quite objective to say that a 3-year program will be disproportionately impacted in terms of opportunities and clinical exposure than 4-year programs. It is most certainly qualitative - that is true, and yes, some peopl
  10. I think this is a gross misrepresentation of what the majority of people have been saying and misleading in terms of how McMaster, and other 3-year programs, are affected in light of COVID-19. With some exception, there is almost no one arguing that COVID-19 will affect the prospects of a medical student at McMaster securing a residency position. No one is arguing that anyone's CARMS data and outlook will be impacted. Equally, no one is saying that McMaster's students are disproportionately affected (compared to other schools) in terms of their ability to match to residency. Yet, while all thi
  11. Thanks for sharing your opinion No one (at least from the majority or arguments I've seen) is saying that Mac students will be at a disadvantage during CARMS applications. This has been proven to be untrue every year. I agree that preceptors are generally encouraged when they see Mac students and we generally perform very well on our rotations. Certainly lucky to be at Mac. Yet, while I agree that the medical school itself is no more impacted by COVID than other schools, I will disagree that students are not impacted more. The very fact that Mac (as well as every other 3 year school
  12. Also fair point about the anatomy access. I suppose another problem would be the inability to access anatomy resources prior to clerkship, whereas other schools may be able to make up for the lack of curriculum in the 2nd year of preclerkship. Same thing with clinical opportunities. But I agree - let's hope every school finds a way to fix this Thanks for the polite discourse.
  13. It's a fair point that anatomy will be affected everywhere. That being said, my point was that the anatomy curriculum was already weak to begin with, and will now likely suffer more for those interested in surgery, at least. In response to the impact of COVID, I am skeptical that its impact will be short lived. This is likely not true at all. Perhaps schools may resume in the fall at some point, but even so, clinical activities will certainly not start up any time soon, especially for the first years. Even the clerkship curriculum is being planned to have some online components, with ret
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