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  1. 1st: 1.7 (no full courseload)
    2nd: 3.0 (no full courseload)
    3rd: 3.75 (full courseload)
    4th: 4.0 (full courseload)
    5th: will be 3.7-3.85 (full courseload for Queens, not for Western)

    My OMSAS wGPAs when I apply will be: 81% UBC (as IP—though unlikely to get in), 3.84 (Western), 3.82-3.87 (Queens), 3.8? (Dalhousie), and I've never calculated Mac but I don't think there's much of a chance anyways. I've yet to take the MCATs.

    I know I technically can apply, but it's never a good feeling looking at my cGPA. Not sure what my chances are. I think my ECs are pretty good and can connect well to CanMEDs/my personal story, but I feel more doubt and anxiety than confidence these days.


    I have to take a gap year anyways since I won't be writing the MCATs this summer, but I am a little bit hesitant about how I want to spend my time considering how terrible my grades are.

    I've been struggling with disordered eating since I started high school, but it got pretty severe during the pandemic and I'd like to take some time to deal with it because it definitely hindered me in university, and I don't want to deal with that over medical school.

    I'd also like to take some time off to live with my aging grandparents, who I haven't been able to see over the entirety of my undergrad because I was always taking summer classes, trying to improve my grades. They live in a very rural city in Asia so I'm not sure if I'd be able to access any sort of volunteering work or extracurriculars that would make my app better.

    Even if I don't go, there are some personal projects I want to work on, but I'm not sure if adcom will frown upon them as they're personal (as opposed to community or medicine-related) ECs.

    -My mom and I (as a duo) got an offer to hold a small art exhibition in Asia next year and I'd obviously love to participate
    -I've finished a novel that I've worked on since high school and I want to spend time either self-publishing or looking for a publisher
    -I want to take a language certificate exam (it'll be my fourth language) to show some proficiency over it
    -Someone donated a musical instrument to me (that I've played for YEARS but couldn't afford) and I'd love to take lessons again and do my RCMs
    -I'd love to see a dietician/therapist for my disordered eating which has gotten really bad
    -Of course, MCATs.

    Not really sure where to go from here. I've been working towards med school my entire life and I'm 100% sure I still want it, but if I have to take a gap year anyways, I do want to spend some time doing personal things. I'm just a little bit burnt out from worrying all the time about my GPA and I'd love to spend time seeing a therapist + doing ECs that I didn't have a chance to do in uni.

  2. 23 hours ago, rmorelan said:

    will that even show up as a difference on the transcript in the end? Usually it doesn't. In which case that truly is a no brainer - particular without graduation ceremonies. Ask, find out, and see. I again I don't think it will - I had to right exams late due to family issues and it didn't show up as anything different in the end at all. 

    If people like that are saying you need to regroup - you need to regroup! 

    Not that I'm aware of haha, but it still might say 'Graduation Nov 2021/'

    I've had some of these profs since I was in second year and I they've all seen me from this super competitive, essay-loving girl to someone just withering away in the corner post-pandemic haha. I used to love going to office hours for things like journal club and getting involved on campus and having all that ripped away + all the financial issues due to COVID affecting jobs has been super awful. :(

  3. Long story short, I'm in the process of finishing up my fifth year. However, I've had a really, really difficult month especially in regards to my mental health due to finances (COVID impacting parents' jobs, I haven't been able to find one myself, Toronto is almost inhumanely expensive), doubts about my future (the classic 'will all this have been for naught') and just a really hard final semester overall.

    My professors have suggested petitioning my exams until June to give me time to rest—I've had these profs before over several years and I guess they could tell that I haven't been right for a while—and my registrar said it's a good option, but I would not be able to graduate in June as my final marks wouldn't be in.

    Frankly, I don't really care whether I graduate in June or November as it doesn't impede my personal life in any way (and maybe a very minuscule chance of an in-person graduation if I choose November?), but I'm worried about what medical schools might think.

    I'm thinking of applying to UBC, Dalhousie, Mac, Western, and Queens at the moment.

    I don't know what a diploma or official transcript at my school (UofT) looks like so I don't know if it'll be obvious if I chose to graduate late, but I was wondering if medical schools would see this as a point of concern as I REALLY don't want to write that I was dealing with mental health issues and had to petition final exams to take them later. If they do care, I'll do whatever I possibly can to push through. If they don't, then I want some time to breathe. My eating disorder was already bad thanks to COVID (being trapped next to a kitchen 24/7 hasn't helped) but April has truly shown that I can fall further if I keep digging.

  4. I'd just like some clarification as Schulich makes it much more clearer.

    Queens notes that:

    • Full time study is defined as a minimum of three courses per semester
    • Full time study must be completed during the academic year, from September to April

    I took 4 courses last semester I am currently taking 3. Due to personal reasons, I'd like to drop one. If I do, that will leave me with 3 full credits or 6 half-credits. Are they very strict with the 'per semester' part or would dropping one still be okay as it'd even out (like Schulich, if I were to take 6 courses, then 4).

    Also, how bad would a late withdrawl look in the final semester? I've been pretty ill since February and I'm afraid that I won't get the marks I want.

  5. 2 hours ago, t2n1n4 said:

    I did an MPH in Canada and am a current medical student. I pursued graduate school not explicitly to improve my stats for MD admissions but to secure an alternate career path if I was never accepted to medicine. Public health training has been helpful to contextualize medicine but other than that I agree with the posts above that your stats at present seem more than adequate without the degree. As an aside, your interest in Eating Disorders is quite niche - in Canada, an MSc may support this better rather than a general MPH.

    Thank you for the reply.. I think I'm also in a similar boat in that if med school doesn't work out for me, I'd like to work in some sort of a public-health related field (with the government? Or maybe as a dietician/nutritionist?). And I personally enjoy things that help me contextualize medicine too, which is a big reason why I majored in anthropology/history rather than human biology (my original major). However, the other big reason was that I didn't enjoy lab work at all, hence why I'm a bit reluctant to do an MSc. I know that a H.BSc also has 'science' at the end of it, but anthro labs are pretty weird compared to the standard bio/chem/physics labs I did in first year, and wouldn't translate well if someone just threw me in a bio lab now.

    The other reason why I'm interested in MPH though is that I took several health studies courses during my undergrad that focused on epidemiology and other community+ levels of healthcare. We talked about medical anthro vs. public health a lot in my major, the pros/cons for both. I learned a ton during my degree but I'd love to now focus on public health more, and hopefully synthesize what I learned in both.

    Thanks again for your insight!

  6. 3 hours ago, bearded frog said:

    Gonna go against the grain here and tell you that a MPH here or abroad will not help you get into medical school. If you want to do it for yourself and feel that it would make you a better person, go for it, but its just delaying things two years. You have reasonable weighted GPAs at many schools, and you say good ECs, so what you need to do is rock the MCAT. Would an extra-post bac year help your GPA numbers at various places? Some don't require a degree to contribute to GPA weighing. Otherwise the other thing to beef up your application would be research experience/publications. Again, this is from a purely what will move you closer to your goal and what won't. Most schools don't even give you the bonus for having a master's degree unless it's complete by time of application, which means unless you apply 3 years from now it won't even be considered. You need to get a great MCAT and apply this year and consider either research or GPA boosting.

    Thank you for your reply—I did state a few times (in that massive wall of text haha) that I'm well aware it doesn't do much for me GPA-wise. I've discussed my ECs on a separate post a few months ago (different account) and everyone seemed pretty enthusiastic about them, I think they're decent—at the very least, I've done them for as long as I can (throughout my UG degree) and they're very unique due to my academic background.

    I think one thing I'm have a really hard time contextualizing is just the fact that I'm not confident in my application at all because of my GPA. I had an awful first and second year, so my cGPA will only be around a 3.3-3.4 after I'm done next week. I even failed a course in second year. I'm proud of having 4.0s now, but I still see that F in my nightmares and I can't really feel the 4.0 as strongly as I feel the Cs and Ds I got in first year.

    I am already in my fifth year so I can't do much for GPA boosting unless I do a second degree. I loved studying evolutionary anthropology and East Asian history, but I wasn't a fan of research in either field. The one field I did enjoy research was in medical anthropology/public health, but I did not major in the latter and we don't have a lot of opportunities for the former post-graduation unless of course, I do a Masters.

    The Masters in Japan is not for the GPA, but more for (1) ECs: having a fourth language if I pass my JLPTs, being able to play kendo again competitively, just having a Masters in the end since there's no guarantee that I'd get accepted within the three years by not doing one, and (2) personal reasons: I like Japan, I have family who are close or in Japan, my best friend lives there and has a room, and it'd be 1/5th of the cost of living in Toronto (we calculated).

    Going back to the GPA thing though, I makes me really happy every time someone says my wGPA is competitive enough, however, I just can't see it. I've lived almost every day post second-year telling myself I'm never allowed to fail or get a B again because I screwed up so royally in my first two years, so my starting point is already further behind everyone else's in this endless marathon. Being in 'survival mode' this long, it is very, very hard to tell myself that my marks stands a chance anywhere, wGPA or not.

  7. 8 hours ago, JohnGrisham said:

    I would do it. Spending the extra time working on non-academics here in Canada vs in Japan is not much of a difference - but at least you'll get the extra benefits you outlined.

    You can continue to keep applying to medical school in Canada while training abroad/living abroad. Just make sure to keep your health care card in your province(it sounds like BC), and keep filing taxes etc in Canada.

    Thanks for your reply! Yes, I figured that if I have a 'gap/app year' anyways, might as well just extend that to another year and get an MPH/fourth language/practice competitively/learn animation and architecture in my free time/explore my personal connection to food and body image.

    As far as I am aware with BC, they require my permanent address to be there (which it is, since my family still lives in Vancouver), and I have to stay there for 6 out of the 12 months. Probably not possible during my masters, but returning home after I'm done shouldn't be a problem.

  8. 13 hours ago, naptime98 said:

    A couple things:

    1) this was a great read. I can tell you’re very passionate about this and my initial reaction is to encourage you to try to program in Japan. That sounds like it could be an absolutely incredible experience, and I think talking about it as a whole would absolutely help you for med although there are clearly many other benefits as well.

    2. I wouldn’t count yourself out for med in Canada at all. Your GPA is more than enough for Western and Queens, and your masters year will be included into your GPA for some schools (ie. Alberta schools if you get 128 in CARS, Dal, MUN).



    Thanks a bunch for your reply! I was worried that I'd overlooked something, so it gives me more confidence to hear that it could actually be beneficial on my app in the long run (especially since I'll have much better access to my hobbies/continue my extracurriculars there).

    It's always strange to hear people tell me that my GPA is competitive and I suppose that seems to be the case on this post. However, I almost failed first year (>2.0) did very mediocre in second year (3.0+) so my cGPA is absolutely garbage. I know in cases like Western and Queens, my GPA is okay, but who knows what they'll think since my application is so weird and unique in general...

    My cGPA does not allow for me to apply to my UG school (UofT) but apparently, getting a Masters/Doctorate will lower the minimum GPA requirement to a 3.0. I have even less faith that UofT will take me in comparison to even Mac since most students seem to have a UG cGPA/wGPA of 3.9+, but that's still another school in my limited pool!

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