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  1. ***NOW UPDATED WITH THE 2019 MSAR*** The new MSAR values are given at the top of each school's description with a heading MSAR 2019. Note that this means using MSAR values released on 2019. They're for class entering fall 2018. Hi fellow non-Americans,As noncitizens, we face greater difficulty than Americans - there are schools that flat out reject any international applications, schools that say they accept but never really interview anyone (looking at you, Tufts and Baylor), and schools that are super friendly towards us. Of course, they're all on MSAR, but unless some screams MSAR at you you won't look at it. It took me a while to come up with a list via MSAR, supplanted with wisdoms of **DELETED** and SDN. I'm now writing to share that with you so you won't have to go through same process. Everything here is based on 2017 MSAR, and things can change. So go buy that MSAR and start looking at it!Applying is just one aspect. There's also the financial problem - US MD schools are quite expensive, and we can't get federal financial aid. No FAFSA for us. Probably don't have a cosigner to get private loans, too. So unless you can come up with a brilliant way to fund half a million dollars, your acceptance is going to be rescinded. That's not nice - so something definitely to think about before applying to 40 schools. There are schools that will provide some sort of funding - loans, grants - to non-Americans, but there aren't that many. Keep this in mind before sending your application. Ontarians can take OSAP and loans with co-signer from CIBC, RBC, TD, etc for max $250,000 CDN and ~$40,000 OSAP. No clue about other provinces.Quoting @Goro, International students need to be Harvard/Stanford calibre. While this may be an exaggeration (sorta), do keep in mind that if there is another American candidate that's exact replica of us, he/she will probably get in over us. Higher stats, ECs are expected from us. Sucks, but that's life. Also doesn't help that most of international-friendly schools are clustered near the top.Few quick points: Public schools are less likely to take in internationals than Americans. Go for private. Kentucky loving Canadians is a notable exception to this. Top schools are more likely to take in internationals AND give financial aid. Forget about Texas and California. Schools taking 1 international students are excluded on this list. Quoting @gyngyn, they're likely to be inside candidates. He recommends 3 or above. There are couple schools taking 1-2 internationals on this list, though it's mostly because they've taken more in the past. When it says 'no Aid', its for Canadian/Internationals. Not for Americans. When it says 90hr/1yr/Bachelors required, that's for International students outside of US/Canada. If you're Canadian or internationals student who went to US undergrad, dont need to worry about this. US Permanent Residents = US Citizens DACA = for the most part, international students Thos with CoA ??? = I couldn't find the total cost of attendance. I might've written total tuition costs next to it. Also keep in mind that CoA is just an estimate! Schools providing Financial Aid: These schools are willing to provide some form of financial aid to international/Canadian students, whether in forms of Loans or Grants. Mostly rich schools high up in the ladder.Columbia (Vagelos) MSAR 2019: 3.89/520, 4 International Matriculants (474 app / 31 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.87/519, 5 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.87/519, 7 International Matriculants. CoA $380K(!). Has financial aid, although significant amount of it is in loans. Requires 3 full year + Bachelor's degree in USCAN. Duke MSAR 2019: 3.86/518, 2 International Matriculants (381 app / 53 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.88/519, 0 International Matriculants (!!). MSAR 2017: 3.85/516. 3 International Matriculants. CoA $310K. Has financial aid in forms of Need-based grant. Requires 1 year of post-sec Ed on USCAN. MD/PhD is only for Americans. Dartmouth (Geisel) MSAR 2019: 3.74/516, 8 (!) International Matriculants (662 app / 48 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.74/515, 4 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.78/515, 5 International matriculants. CoA $344K. States that it can provide 'need-based financial institutional scholarships and loans'. Requires 3yr of post-sec Ed in USCAN. Has a reputation for loving nontrads. Harvard MSAR 2019: 3.93/520, 16 (!!) International Matriculants (486 app / 44 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.92/519, 6 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.92/518, 16 International matriculants. The most international-friendly school. CoA $370K. Aid is available with a unit loan. 1Yr post-sec ed on USCAN, although states that 'without Bachelor's in US/CAN rarely accepted.' Mount Sinai (Icahn) MSAR 2019: 3.88/519, 5 International Matriculants (382 app / 20 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.87/519, 5 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.84/519, 4 International matriculants. CoA $290K. Aid is available ($31500/yr) + Merit scholarships. Loans for 3/4th years via Mpower. Will accept international education after evaluation from WES but strongly encourages NA education Northwestern (Feinberg) MSAR 2019: 3.91/520, 0 International Matriculants (358 app / 19 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.91/520, 0 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.9/519, 3 International matriculants. MSAR says 1, but NW says 3 on its page. wtf? CoA $350K, Aid is available. 3Yr post-sec Ed on USCAN. Stanford MSAR 2019: 3.93/520, 9 International Matriculants (401 app / 0 (???) interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.86/519, 5 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.89/518, 5 International matriculants. CoA $352K, aid is available in forms of Grants and Loans. Need to show proof of 1 year of tuition. 1Yr post-sec ed on USCAN. Vanderbilt MSAR 2019: 3.93/521, 4 International Matriculants (335 app / 16 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.91/521, 7 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.9/520, 6 International matriculants. CoA $350K, aid is available. 'Recommend' 1yr Post-sec ed on USCAN. Yale MSAR 2019: 3.92/522, 8 International Matriculants (480 app / 39 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.88/521, 11 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.89/518, 10 International matriculants. CoA $355K, aid is available with a unit loan. 3Yr post-sec Ed on USCAN. Johns Hopkins MSAR 2019: 3.94/521, 7 International Matriculants (617 app / 22 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.94/520, 8 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.92/519, 9 international matriculants. CoA $320K, aid is available. 1yr post-sec Ed on USCAN. Mayo - MN (Alix) MSAR 2019: 3.94/520, 6 International Matriculants (297 app / 27 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.91/517, 0 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.85/513. US/Canadians only. 2 Canadian matriculants. Only for MN - AZ/FL dont take Canadians. CoA 330K. Aid available per current Canadian student Schools that won't provide Financial Aid/Canadian Only: These schools will only accept Canadian applicants in additions to usual Americans. They will not provide any forms of financial aid. Some may have escrow requirement.George Washington MSAR 2019: 3.79/513, 4 International Matriculants (731 app / 26 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.72/511, 4 Canadian Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.72/511, super low-yield chool. 2 Canadian matriculants. CoA $320K(??). No aid available. Has a weird 'special International MD program' for international students, designed for said students to leave US and practice in their home country. Probably not something you're looking for. Regular MD is only for US/Canadians. Michigan State - Public MSAR 2019: 3.71/508, 2 International Matriculants (499 app / 3 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.68/507, 3 Canadian Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.71/507. US/Canadians only. 3 Canadian matriculants. CoA $330K. No aid available Maryland- Public MSAR 2019: 3.83/514, 2 Canadian Matriculants (188 app / 14 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.84/513, 3 Canadian Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.85/515. US/Canadians only. 2 Canadian matriculants. CoA $380K (!) No aid available. Virginia Commonwealth - Public MSAR 2019: 3.78/512, 5 Canadian Matriculants (296 app / 0(!!) interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.74/511, 2 Canadian Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.74/511. Super low-yield. 4 Canadian matriculants. CoA $275K. Canadians are essentially considered as OOS Americans. No aid available. Wayne State MSAR 2019: 3.74/510, 9 International Matriculants (662 app / 65 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.74/509, 18 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.76/508. US/Canadians, and any international student who went to Wayne State as undergrad. 8 International matriculants. CoA $350K. No aid available. Central Michigan - Public MSAR 2019: 3.71/509, 3 International Matriculants (587 app / 0 (!!) interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.74/506, 4 Canadian Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.7/504, US/Canadians only. 5 Canadian matriculants. CoA $384K(!!) the most expensive school on the list. Wants ties to Central Michigan. Being in Canada doesn't count. Schools that won't provide Financial Aid: These schools will consider all international applications, but will not provide any forms of Financial aid. Some may have escrow requirement.Boston MSAR 2019: 3.84/518, 6 International Matriculants (647 app / 62 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.83/518, 11 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.81/516, 11 International Matriculants. Low-yield school. CoA $350K. No financial aid. Requires 2 year of post-secondary education + prerequisites done in US/CAN. Emory MSAR 2019: 3.8/515, 5 International Matriculants (453 app / 17interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.79/515, 3 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.79/515, 4 international matriculants. CoA $320K. No financial aid. Requires 32hr of science coursework on USCAN. Georgetown MSAR 2019: 3.79/513, 4 International Matriculants (731 app / 26 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.8/513, 9 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.74/512, 5 international matriculants. Super low-yield. CoA $370K. No financial Aid. Needs foreign transcript evaluated. Medical College of Wisconsin MSAR 2019: 3.74/510, 4 International Matriculants (434 app / 14 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.79/511, 4 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.76/515, 1 international matriculants. CoA $275K. No financial aid. Requires document supporting your ability to pay up $254K. 90hr of ed on USCAN. Casper required. Wants to see shadowing. Canadians beware New York Medical College MSAR 2019: 3.67/512, 4 International Matriculants (619 app / 11 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.63/511, 4 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.65/512. 4 international matriculants. No secondary = super low yield. CoA ???. No financial aid. Escrow requirement of $239K. Prereqs must be done on USCAN. Bachelors' strongly recommended. Penn State MSAR 2019: 3.81/511, 2 International Matriculants (580 app / 9 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.82/510, 2 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.82/509. 1 International matriculants. CoA $285K. No financial aid. All prereq must be done on USCAN. Penn (Perelman) MSAR 2019: 3.92/521, 2 International Matriculants (366 app / 13 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.88/520, 1 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.87/518. 6 International matriculants. CoA ???, Tuition only is $240K. No Financial Aid. Gives good amount of scholarships but disappointing from such a rich school 1yr ed on USCAN. Pittsburgh MSAR 2019: 3.87/517, 3 International Matriculants (346 app / 9 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.86/517, 3 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.85/515. 3 International matriculants. CoA $330K. Escrow requirement of 2-yr tuition. No financial aid. 1yr + prereqs done on USCAN. Saint Louis University MSAR 2019: 3.91/514, 14 International Matriculants (483 app / 63 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.89/513, 12 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.87/512. 11 International matriculants. CoA $295K. Escrow requirement of $210K. No aid. Requires TOEFL or SAT as test of English proficiency. Jefferson (Sidney Kimmel) MSAR 2019: 3.75/514, 8 International Matriculants (617 app / 22 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.74/514, 5 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.75/512. 9 International matriculants. Super low-yield. CoA $308K. No Aid available. Requires Bachelors from USCAN. SUNY-Upstate - Public MSAR 2019: 3.79/514, 7 International Matriculants (463 app / 23 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.73/513, 7 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.75/512. 8 International matriculants. CoA $367K. No aid available. Requires 90hr post-sec ed on USCNA. Likes Canadians SUNY-Stony Brook (Renaissance) - Public MSAR 2019: 3.84/516, 16 International Matriculants (379 app / 39 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.82/514, 9 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.8/514. 3 International matriculants. CoA $370K. Needs 'Affidavit of support' for this amount. 1yr post-sec ed on USCAN. Tulane MSAR 2019: 3.64/512, 8 International Matriculants (627 app / 15 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.64/511, 4 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.62/511. 5 International matriculants. CoA $355K. No aid available. Casper required. Hawaii (Burns) - Public MSAR 2019: 3.82/513, 2 International Matriculants (194 app / 18 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.82/513, 2 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.76/510. 2 International matriculants. CoA ?? No aid available. Prereqs recommended to be done on USCAN. Kentucky - Public MSAR 2019: 3.79/508, 1 International Matriculants (287 app / 8 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.83/511, 6 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.82/512. 8 International matriculants. Known to love Canadians. CoA $371K. No aid available. Need document supporting ability to pay 2 yr tuition. 1yr on USCAN. Application status changed from 'accepting all Canadians/Internationals' to 'Case-by-Case' for all Int/Canadian applications. Not sure of the consequence. Virginia - Public MSAR 2019: 3.93/519, 2 International Matriculants (295 app / 20 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.91/519, 8 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.9/518. 2 International matriculants. According to my advisor's medical handbook, they treat Canadians like OOS Americans. CoA 335K. 90hr on USCAN or UK. Washington University @ STL MSAR 2019: 3.93/522, 10 International Matriculants (312 app / 78 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.91/521, 9 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.89/521. 8 International matriculants. CoA 335K. Escrow requirement. No need-based aid available (Merit aid is). 90hr on USCAN. Cornell (Weill) MSAR 2019: 3.9/519, 0 International Matriculants (385 app / 26 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.87/519, 2 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.78/519. 5 International matriculants. CoA $355K. Escrow requirement. No aid available. Lona Linda MSAR 2019: 3.88/509, 13 International Matriculants (406 app / 22 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.83/508, 17 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.86/508. 10 International matriculants. For SDA, super devout Christians. DO NOT APPLY IF YOUR FAITH DOESNT MATCH UP (SUPER DEVOUT CHRISTIAN) CoA ??? $225K tuition only. No aid available. 1yr on USCAN. Howard MSAR 2019: 3.51/504, 10 International Matriculants (626 app / 17 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.45/502, 5 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.41/502. 9 International matriculant. HBCU. CoA $304K. No aid available. 68hr on USCAN. Case Western / CCLCM MSAR 2019: 3.83/518, 2 International Matriculants (220 app / 2 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.82/518, 7 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: did not accept Internationals 3.81/517. CoA $356K. No need-based aid, though Merit Aid is possible. CCLCM covers everything. UCLA MSAR 2019: 3.88/518, 3 International Matriculants (702 app / 16 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.85/517, 9 International Matriculants MSAR 2017: 3.79/508. 2 International matriculants. Their MCAT went from 508 to 517, so..yeah. big jump there. No Escrow, but No financial aid either. Eligible for Geffen and another full-tuition merit scholarship. Thanks @mikooz! ***NOW ACCEPTING INTERNATIONALS*** Meharry MSAR 2019: 3.54/502, 10 International Matriculants (336 app / 3 interviewed) HBCU! West Virginia MSAR 2019: 3.86/509, 3 International Matriculants (317 app / 19 interviewed) Random addition to the international list ***HALL OF SHAME OF BARRICADING INTERNATIONALS GOING FORWARD*** Albert Einstein College of Medicine NOT ACCEPTING CANADIAN/INTERNATIONAL APPLICANTS FOR 2019-2020 CYCLE! MSAR 2018: 3.82/515, 5 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.83/516, 5 International Matriculants. CoA $290K. Has an escrow requirement: 2 year for Non-Canadians, half of 1 year tuition for Canadians. Financial aid is available through Einstein Scholarship and College Loan Funds. Requires 1 year post-secondary education in US/Canada. NYU Langone NOT ACCEPTING CANADIAN/INTERNATIONAL APPLICANTS GOING FORWARD! MSAR 2018: 3.92/521, 0 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.9/520. Not just Canadians, but also Canadian PRs. Maybe this is why there are other non-Canadians in their MSAR. 2 International matriculants. Willing to provide Merit scholarships but no other forms of Financial Aid. CoA 335K (4yr pathway) . No aid available. Rosalind Franklin NOT ACCEPTING CANADIAN/INTERNATIONAL APPLICANTS GOING FORWARD! MSAR 2018: 3.62/518, 9 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.63/511, 8 International Matriculants. Low-yield school. CoA $300K. No financial aid. Needs Casper. Requires 90hr of post-sec Ed on USCAN. Oakland Beaumont***We Hate Internationals But We Love That $weet $econdary Fee!***In other words, applying to these schools is a waste of your precious secondary fee. Baylor East Tennessee USC (Keck) Louisiana, McGovern, Morehouse, NEOMED, Rutgers (both of them), All Texas schools (+Baylor) Brown, Tufts, all PR schools, Arizona, All UCs EXCEPT UCLA, Chicago (Pritzker), Colorado, Connecticut, Illinois, Louisville, UNC Chapel Hill, Utah 2019 Analysis: Sadly (or SAD! in American way), three schools dropped out of international-friendly list: NYU, Einstein, and Rosalind Franklin. I heard Einstein might re-open their doors to internationals (like Case did last year), but not sure for the other two. SAD! BUT Meharry and West Virginia joins the list of admitting 3+ internationals/class for this year. Yay! Note on Meharry and Howard: Know that these two are HBCU, or historically black college. 90%+ of their classes are black or African American. If you aren't member of the target group, then your application likely won't be considered. Just something to consider before paying the secondary fee. Harvard, Stanford, Yale, SLU, Loma Lida, and SLU remained as the most international-friendly schools of America for this year. But that rise in Stony Brook is impressive. Wonder what happened? In contrast, the drop in numbers for Boston, UCLA, Virginia and Wayne (although still lots) is disappointing. The discrepancy in # interviews and # acceptance for Stanford, VCU and CMED is confusing. No idea what happened. That's it - good luck with your applicaiton!That's it. MSAR says 71 schools are willing to take International/Canadian applications. After some analysis, the list comes down to 42 for Canadians and 33 for internationals. There are schools that have taken more in the fast - ie. Utah took in 3 internationals 2015-2016. They aren't included in this list as none made it last year with only 5 interviews. Or schools like Duke that took a couple for 2016 but none for 2017. Schools not listed here and listed 'accepts International/Canadian applications' are likely to just shred your application and take your $$ as donations. Chicago (Pritzker) apparently 'used' to be int-friendly. None made it for class matriculating 2016. Your call. Wrote this up while dodging my PI's smoldering gaze at me, so there may be typos here and there. Point them out and I'd be happy to fix them up. Feel free to rip me apart if something's not true, and good luck.
  2. Hi everyone, I am looking for your real and honest advice here. I am in my fourth year of a b.sc undergad at mcmaster and will be graduating in the spring. I did not apply to med this past cycle because I had no confidence in my application and thought that perhaps doing a masters would be a better alternative in the meantime. While I have been offered acceptance to these programs the thought of letting med go without every trying makes me sick. I want to go to medical school so badly but I am so afraid that it will never happen for me and scared to face that reality. Here are my stats please tell me your thoughts: Year 1 3.3888 (took 9 courses) Year 2 3.73 (took 10 courses) Year 3 3.78 (took 11 courses but 1 is p/f so only 10 in gpa calculation) - fall gpa 3.6, winter gpa 3.96 (not counted at some schools) Year 4 3.96 (took 10 courses) I calculate my cgpa to be 3.723. My best two years without winter 2020 would be year 2 and 4 = 3.845 (Western) My most recent two years without winter 2020 would be = 3.84 (Queens) - not that this matters now but had I not taken ochem as an elective in the fall of my third year my fall gpa would have been a 3.925 (3.925+3.96/2 = 3.945 best two year without winter 2020 - so this sucks) I would have to write an academic explanations essay to get uoft wgpa since I took only 9 courses in my first year but otherwise it would have been = 3.747 I have done the calculations for a couple of other schools but I don't want to make this post messier than it is. If you think there is a school I could potentially have a chance at then I will definitely add that number in. I am willing to go to literally any school in Canada, will do US MD. If neither of those I have been thinking about DO, Carib, Ireland and Australia. What are your thoughts on that? I have also thought about taking courses after I graduate (i know western allows these to be counted as a special year) If i got a hypothetic 4.0 in year 5 my cgpa would be 3.779 (not much dif. for mac) but my best 2 year/ most recent 2 year gpa would be 3.96+4/2 = 3.98 which would be my Queens and Western score. ECS: 2 full years research under department chair and now completing senior thesis (possibly of publishing), intro psych ta, 2 mcmaster clubs, free volunteer tutoring, 300+ hours volunteer at cardiology clinic (taking bp, recording medical information etc), summer volunteer at sunnybrook veteran centre, volunteered for 2 months with a arthritis research assistant at mount sinai, has worked as a red cross swim instructor (1 year) and as an inclusion instructor (2 years) with special needs Want to write MCAT again in early July to apply to some US schools, the first time I wrote I knew I didn't feel ready and hardly studied toward the end, I know I can do significantly better. (Keep in mind I have 2 gen chem with lab, 2 bio with lab, 1 physics with lab, 2 orgo with lab, 1 calc, 1 english, many psych) I know I am missing biochem, phys 2 and eng 2 for some schools in Canada/ US. I am so sorry this is so long I just need someone's advice. Should I give it a try what are my chances realistically?
  3. Hey, I'm finishing up my research based masters in Ontario and have applied to med three times and haven't gotten an interview. My stats are quite poor, but medicine is all I've ever wanted and I don't feel like I would be fulfilled if I tried every option at med. cGPA is around 3.1 but depending on wGPA it's ~3.6 . I have a huge upward trajectory in grades, but still didn't make Western or Queens' cutoff. MCAT is 508 (128/126/126/128). Have a 4.0 in my masters but I'm aware that usually doesn't count for much. I think my ECs are very strong- multiple leadership positions both in research and in extracurricular activities, volunteer time at a hospital, two pubs submitted for review to journals. My end goal is to practice FM or peds in Canada- doing residency here too would be ideal, but if I have to go abroad I'm not opposed to just continuing to do residency there. So far the options I've come up with are: 1) Apply to Ireland right now (a bit of a rush for my references but I might be able to do it) 2) Go back to school to take a year of prereq courses for US DO that I never took, then apply Ireland and US DO 3) Work for a year while I try to get EU citizenship (I hear this significantly reduces Ireland tuition) then apply Ireland 4) Give up and find another career path If I'm being honest- I hate the consequences of each of those options and I need to feel that I'm progressing towards my goal in some way. So please, if you've gone international to study medicine I would love to hear your opinion and what your experience has been like. Canadians tell me that applying outside of Canada is a death sentence in coming back, Irish students tell me it's the best place ever to study, Americans tell me I better stay in North America.. I really can't make up this decision and if I'm being honest, leaving my friends, family and SO is also quite scary to me, but I guess I'll do what I need to. Any opinions or advice would be great, thank you.
  4. Hi all, Christopher here from the Pluripotent Premed podcast, and creator of www.UltimatePremedPackage.ca. After overwhelmingly positive feedback on 'Season 1' of the podcast that I co-host with a medical school classmate of mine, Ziad, we are back in the (virtual) studio and recording new weekly episodes for Season 2! If you haven't heard of Pluripotent Premed yet, feel free to check us out on any major podcasting platform (Spotify, Apple Music, etc.) or on our Facebook page. We are two medical students in Canada who host a completely free podcast that is designed to guide premed students through the premedical years.In Season 1, we focused on all aspects of the MCAT, med school interview, admissions process, CASPer, and much more. This season we have a couple of new series that will help guide you on your premed journey: 2020-2021 Admissions Cycle series - last year Ziad and I recorded a single episode that broke down each Canadian medical school and the requirements for admission, interlaced with stats from previous classes that provided insight into whether you are a 'competitive' applicant. This year we've decided to do it a little differently - we've invited a medical student from each of the 17 Canadian medical schools to come on a do a condensed 10-15 minute episode about their specific medical school. We will discuss with them the academic and non-academic admission requirements, the school's curriculum, and their personal experience as a student at the school. We hope that this format will provide a greater and more personal insight into each of the schools, and will allow listeners to seek out the specific episodes that highlight the schools that they are interested in. Alternative Background series - the purpose of this series is to bring on medical student guests who don't come from the typical premed background, in order to discuss their route to medicine. We had numerous listeners request a series like this, and we believe it will be helpful and provide hope for those listeners who don't fit that 'cookie cutter' premed applicant. So far we have episodes with a medical student who did an undergraduate degree in music with no science background, a student who did a dual business and science degree and how they balanced it, and a student who is pursuing an MD/PhD and what the admissions process looks like for that applicant stream. We intend to plan more episodes in this series based on requests from our listeners. −−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−-−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−-−−−− Aside from the podcast project, feel free to check out my premed website UltimatePremedPackage.ca (again, totally free), which hosts a BUNCH of resources for the MCAT, med school interview, and a whole lot more. That's all for now - keep up with the hard work everyone!
  5. Hello wonderful people! I just finished my 4th year at a University in Canada - I'm a Canadian citizen, and I am currently planning to do my 5th year to boost my GPA and build up my ECs. I am almost done with my primary application for AACOMAS (DO schools), but I am a little hesitant to apply for AMCAS as well. Given that my stats are 3.65 cGPA with a strong upward trend (3.2 - 3.7 - 3.7 - 4.0) and 508 MCAT (127 125 127 129), should I give it a shot for US MD schools for this cycle? I am just worried because I heard US schools don't like to see reapplicants, so I was wondering if it would be better to wait and apply next cycle with a better GPA and a new MCAT score as a first time applicant. (I am rewriting my MCAT in September for Canadian schools, and I'm not going to declare that on my US applications to avoid any delays) I'm not really sure of my chances in the States as a Canadian student. [my EC: 2 clinical research experiences - one paid, one volunteer - with a publication, hospital volunteering for a year, international student training at a hospital, shadowing, executive positions at 2 school clubs, years of community volunteering] Any insights would be greatly appreciated! Thank you in advance!
  6. Right now I am taking a course that is not required for my degree and it is really bringing down my GPA, I want to drop it to salvage my GPA. I desperately need for schools to drop my lowest year from their GPA because my first year went really bad (currently I am in second year). I plan to apply for UManitoba, UCalgary and UAlberta (which all don't care about you many courses you take as long as you are full-time ( 3 courses per semester), correct me if I am wrong). Which Ontario schools will disqualify me from the wGPA? Here are how many courses I took: 1st year: Fall semester - 4 courses Winter semester - 5 courses 2nd year: Fall semester - 6 courses Winter semester (current): 4 course (If I drop my 5th one) I know I screwed up in the 1 year by not taking 10 courses, but I plan to do 5 years of undergrad and from now on I will only take 5 courses a semester. Will schools average the 6 and 4 courses for a total full-time course of 10 for my second year? Or do I have to take 5 courses each semester? If it matters I retook 3 courses in my second year that I got a bad mark in first year.
  7. Hi Everyone, In brief, I am a PhD student studying medicine in Canada. My biggest hurdle as I apply to medical schools is most definitely my GPA. >undergrad GPA: 2.8 >graduate GPA: 3.9 (Though this is a thesis-based degree, I have taken a course (or two) every single semester over my 5 year PhD) [Based off of this year's entry statistics for almost all Canadian and US schools, my MCAT score is competitive. I have hundreds of hours of extracurricular activities ranging from volunteering, community service, student groups, leadership, etc. I have 100+ hours of shadowing in different clinics/services. 10+ pubs in mid-high tier journals (4 first author), various long-term employment experiences, etc etc.] At this time, it seems very unlikely that I'll make it past the GPA cutoffs for all Canadian schools based off of conversations with advisers, weighted GPA calculations, etc. This has pushed me to look in the direction of US schools. Are there any US MD schools (not DO) that look favorably to PhD students? And a step-further: Canadian PhD students? I have zero intention of changing my career path, so I have also entertained the idea of EU or AUS schools, though I am very aware of the obstacles, costs, and residency challenges associated. Eager to gather some input from this forum! Some guidance would be appreciated.
  8. Hello everyone, I am a Canadian applicant who graduated in 2018 with a 3.69 cGPA/3.8 GPA to Western/Queen's & 3.7 GPA to US schools. My MCAT is 516 (129/127/130/130) (2019) (Past: 509, 512) and I have a very strong EC and research experience with no publications. I had no interview invites the last 2 years (Canada & US) and I'm afraid it was due to my low GPA for Canadian schools. For US schools, my options were very limited as I did not meet some course pre-reqs, and I understand space is limited for Canadian applicants. I feel like I'm getting no where in my 3rd application cycle and I thought of some future plans, but not sure if these would be helpful 1) Should I retake the MCAT (Feb/Mar) and aim for a CARS 128+ (Would open up Western) 2) Should I go to Grad School (2yrs) would this investment be worth it (Would make it easier for UofT & Queen's). Also wondering if there is a disadvantage to a course-based grad program. 3) Instead of Grad, should I go back to school to meet pre-reqs for US schools? Even with them would it really increase my chances? 4) Should I apply abroad (Ireland, Australia, etc)? I heard there are 6 year programs which would take the same amount of time as going to grad school here + 4 yrs med. I'm also afraid of the debt I'll be in as well as having to live in extremely rural areas. I know this is what I really want, but I feel like I'm spending too much time stuck in the application cycles and want to find a way to be more beneficial to my application. I'm wondering if there are truly no options for a student who is stuck with their GPA. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks!!
  9. Hi all! My name is Christopher and I am the author of www.UltimatePremedPackage.ca which I know a few of you have found to be a useful resource for your premed journey. This summer a classmate and I have been busy working on a new podcast called Pluripotent Premed which we intent to act as an audio guide for navigating the premed years as a Canadian applicant. We dive into all topics related to the MCAT, med school interview, extracurriculars, and more. We will also be interviewing classmates of ours who are got into med from alternative backgrounds (e.g. arts, nursing, other careers) and also those who are pursuing an M.D./PhD to give you a better idea of how the program works and what to expect. Today is the release date for 'Episode 0', which is an introductory episode that doesn't have any specific premed content, but rather just introduces us and the podcast, and what to expect. From here on out, we will release an episode every Monday. If this sounds like something that you're interested in, please check us out on social media (Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram and on podcasting platforms (Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Play, and most other major podcasting platforms). I will post an episode release schedule in the comments so that you know what episodes are coming up! I will post an episode release schedule below so that you know what episodes are coming up! Thanks for reading! We are really excited about this project and we hope to help as many people as possible. Please feel free to message me on here or on our Facebook page if you have any questions! TL;DR - the author of Ultimate Premed Package has teamed up with a classmate to make a premed podcast directed at Canadian premeds to guide you through the MCAT, interviews, and more. Episodes every Monday
  10. Hello, I am a long time lurker, and this is my first post. I was wondering if my fellow Canadian comrades could post some statistics on their GPA/MCAT/ECs and what US MD schools they're currently attending so I have an idea of the level of competition. Just confirming I am a Canadian CITIZEN. Also, I have the following stats, I would really appreciate some feedback and perhaps recommendations on certain schools that fit my experiences/scores: 516 on the MCAT (129/128/130/129) 3.8 GPA (Perfect GPA last 2 years, how significantly do they care about trends??) ECs: Lots of volunteering at a hospital in patient care (300+ hours) 2 publications with a neurosurgeon Spent the majority of my undergrad playing a varsity sport for my school, The remaining time was spent teaching special needs students with a company in my community and coaching. Did a few outreach clubs and have exec positions here and there, but nothing too serious outside of teaching, sports, and research. Lots of random awards by the university and province for sports, high class standing awards, and a bunch of smaller things. I have NO SHADOWING experience, given it isn't emphasized in Canada but please recommend whether it is very important to the states. I know it's a lot of questions but would REALLY appreciate it, thank you
  11. I know I will not make it into Canadian dental schools due to the rough first year I had (due to major illness). I am a music major currently in my second year. My first year GPA was 2.4 (like I said, I was very sick), but first semester of this year, it was 3.3, which bumped my CGPA up to 2.74. I am hoping to bump it up even further by taking intersession courses this summer and working really hard for the rest of my undergrad. I am looking at US schools as a plan B. I was wondering if anyone has any info on Canadian friendly schools that may be options for me. I am hoping that my diverse background will work in my favour. I am pursuing a major in music (with the appropriate dental prereqs, of course). I have not written the DAT yet.
  12. Hi All, I'm a student in 5th year of Med school studying here in Poland at WUM and I hold a Pakistani Passport. I am aware of the fact that you MUST be a PR holder or have a Canadian Citizenship to be eligible to practice there as there are steep chances for IMG's especially non Canadians. I will be getting engaged in a couple of months and my fiance is studying/working in Canada, He would get his PR soon hopefully. So here my question goes, can I just go to Canada after graduating which will be in 2 years and start preparing for Carms and get a PR in the meanwhile and then apply to residency (it would take 2 3 yeard after I graduate) ? What would be the best advice in this case or if there is some other pathway I should opt for?
  13. Hi all,I'm a 3rd year Ontario non-SWOMEN undergrad student with an MCAT score of 131/127/131/128 (517 total). My GPA is ~3.98 and I have strong non-clinical ECs and clinical research experience. I'll be applying to Canadian med schools this upcoming summer, and if I don't get accepted I'll apply to Canadian and US med schools the following year.I'm concerned that my 127 CARS shuts a lot of doors in Canada - I think I'm really only competitive for U of T, Queens, and Ottawa - so I'm considering re-writing. However, I'm concerned that re-writing will harm my chances at US med schools, as I've heard that US schools in general don't look favorably on re-writing without substantial improvement (I know that some US schools state on their website that they look at the most recent or highest MCAT, but I've seen others recommend interpreting those statements cautiously). I don't think I will be able to 'substantially improve'; realistically, my goal with a re-write would be to get a similar overall score with just a couple points higher in CARS.I plan on submitting a Canadian application this upcoming cycle because Canada does not frown upon re-applicants so the potential of getting rejected this cycle is not a deterrent. However, I would need an additional year to get my US application prepared.TL;DR: Should I re-write my MCAT (517 with 127 CARS) - bolstering my Canadian application if CARS improves (even if total score decreases) but potentially harming my US app - or just apply with my current MCAT score (in the 2017/18 cycle for Canada and in the 2018/19 cycle for US and Canada)?
  14. I'm in the third year in McMaster University and I want to apply to both Canadian and American medical schools this summer. I'm really lost in regards to this process; who should write my LoRs? How would I submit them to both Canadian and American medical schools? When should this submission be done?
  15. I'm in the third year in McMaster University and I want to apply to both Canadian and American medical schools this summer. I'm really lost in regards to this process; who should write my LoRs? How would I submit them to both Canadian and American medical schools? When should this submission be done?
  16. Currently, I am in the midst of second year, where I just screwed around first and second year first sem. After a talk with my parents, I wonder if med school after 4th year is still possible for me, assuming that I take my schooling carefully and respectfully, and hopefully obtain a good mcat score, would the comeback still be possible. My cumulative GPA is currently really low (<1.5), [Canadian Scale] with me having to redo ORGO 1 this summer. I would appreciate any advice if any one has ever been in a similar situation, I am interested in applying to both the states and Canadian Medical Schools.
  17. Currently, I am in the midst of second year, where I just screwed around first and second year first sem. After a talk with my parents, I wonder if med school after 4th year is still possible for me, assuming that I take my schooling carefully and respectfully, and hopefully obtain a good mcat score, would the comeback still be possible. My cumulative GPA is currently really low (<1.5), [Canadian Scale] with me having to redo ORGO 1 this summer. I would appreciate any advice if any one has ever been in a similar situation, I am interested in applying to both the states and Canadian Medical Schools.
  18. Hi, I am selling access to my DAT Bootcamp premium access which expires at the end of December. This is a great resource for because of the abundance of past DAT exam questions you can access through their practice tests. It is amazing for PAT because they have generators and thorough video explanations on strategies for PAT. I am also selling my Canadian Dental Association DAT Preparation Manual. This is the only exam that was released by the official Canadian DAT administrator and is a great way to gauge your preparedness. Ideally, we can meet in person in Vancouver to ensure a smooth transaction. $50 each - negotiable. Please message me for more details.
  19. Okay I know 6 is a lot but please read.I started a degree online back in 2013 and hated it. I pretty much neglected it because my parents borderline forced me (as I had a good job in a small town without a Uni). It was in HR and after i just didn't bother with the first semester but said I would give it a second go - same outcome. Not one ounce of me took it seriously nor thought about long term outcome.ANYWAYS, since then i've been doing my psychology degree, full course load and in class (I relocated). I have a 3.8 GPA and have been volunteering for 3 years now. I've submerged myself in the "premed" lifestyle and course load, EC's, etc. Until the other day I realized that my online FAIL is now haunting me.So my question is. Has anyone ever omitted transcripts from their application and if I submit them will they even CONSIDER having me in for an interview? My cumulative GPA with 6 fails seems like something I can't make a come back from.Please don't judge I'm in a pretty deep mental rut about this already.
  20. Hoping to answer any questions people may have regarding OMFS applications for Canadian citizens. Things to consider: "Canadian-friendly" programs CBSE materials/preparation/competitive scores CV & PS Navigating the PASS Application Externships Interviews The MATCH Good luck to those applying in the next cycle.
  21. Hey everyone, So it's my first time considering applying to American schools and I was hoping someone would be able to share some info about MSU. From what I can see, it looks as though they are relatively Canadian friendly, as anyone who is a Canadian citizen can apply with full consideration given to degrees obtained in Canada. However based on their admission statistics on MSAR, they only accepted 3 from 500 international applicants. Seeing as how MSU doesn't accept non-US citizens, non-US residents or non-Canadian citizens, does that mean in this case Canadians were considered international? Or were they considered out of state? Just figured I'd post on here before emailing them to see if I could get a quick response. Any info anyone might have would be really appreciated. Thanks in advance!
  22. Hi, I am a Canadian, and I am contemplating whether or not to rewrite the MCAT to apply to American schools. My overall MCAT score is 512 (87th percentile) The issue is that I don't know how much US schools care about overall score vs. individual sections. I have a 123 in one section, but 128/130/131 in the others! I also have a 4.0 GPA or close to. But My main question is about the subsection vs. overall score because in Canada individual sections are super important Some feedback would be appreciated!
  23. Hello, I'm wondering which US and Canadian med schools weigh the MCAT most highly in the admissions process? I recently took the MCAT and scored a 132/132/132/131, this is the first cycle I'll be applying to med school. I am a Canadian applicant (BC resident). Thanks!
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