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  1. I decided to make this thread for applicants that are thinking of, or have already started, working towards a second degree in the hopes of applying to McGill. I found McGill's website to be quite jumbled regarding this topic, so hopefully that information can be summarized here in a clear and concise way. If you notice any errors, please comment below and I will edit this post accordingly. I would also encourage second degree applicants to ask their questions here, if only for the sake of keeping information in one easily accessible place. Basic Science Prerequisites & the MCAT: The MCAT is not required to apply to McGill, but if you have already completed the basic science prerequisites, it may be in your best interest to write the exam. Every applicant MUST complete the prerequisites by January 15th of the year they plan to start medical school, and a maximum of two prerequisites can still be outstanding by the application deadline (November 1st). However, if your pre-requisite science GPA (sGPA) is significantly below the average of 3.80, then a strong MCAT score can be used in its place. Currently, a competitive MCAT is a 33, and this score should be as close to 'balanced' as possible (11/11/11). *Pre-requisite courses 'expire' after eight years, so make sure to repeat those courses if they will exceed the eight year mark by November 1st. List of Prerequisites: 6 Credits Biology (Introductory) w/ Labs 6 Credits Chemistry (General or Physical) w/ Labs 3 Credits Organic Chemistry w/ Lab 6 Credits Physics (Introductory) w/ Labs GPA: Before we get into GPA, it's important to emphasize that you are NOT a second degree applicant unless you COMPLETED your first degree. For example, if you left your first degree early and pursued another degree, then the following information will not apply to you. Your GPA will instead be calculated based on every course you have completed, in both degrees. Those who have completed a degree, and are now working towards another, will have their GPA calculated differently then applicants in their 'primary' degree. For starters, even if you received transfer credit from your first degree, those courses will NOT be included in the GPA calculation. Only the courses you have completed while enrolled in the second degree will be considered. The year you apply, you must have completed at least 45 credits (15 courses) before the application deadline (November 1st), and at least 60 credits AND your degree by July 1st. This means that your second degree needs to take at least two years to complete, but if you were paying attention to the deadlines, you'll realize that if it only takes you two years, you likely won't be able to apply until after you've graduated. There are ways to get around this (i.e. overloading semesters, spring/summer courses, etc), but keep in mind that you need to maintain a competitive GPA, so don't get overzealous. On that note, a competitive GPA is a 3.80, but if you're an OOP applicant there's a limited number of seats. **Those 60 credits need to be completed in consecutive years or you risk your application being rejected Conclusion: This concludes the second degree specific information. I hope it will provide some insight for future applicants and help you move one step closer to achieving your medical school goals. Good luck! Class Profiles - Admissions - Accepted/Rejected/Waitlisted Thread - Admission FAQs - Dark
  2. Hi guys! I've heard that USask IP is one of the easiest med school pathways to take in Canada and have noticed lots of people are moving to Saskatchewan to take their undergrad there to gain IP status. Is this move worth it? Because I have also heard that they will change the IP requirements so there is a chance that doing an undergrad there will not suffice. Should I consider even consider it? (I am a first year student in UAlberta right now)
  3. I was looking to apply to McGill this cycle and wanted an idea of how competitive I'd look pre-interview. I'm a Quebec resident (though I did post secondary in Ontario) and I have a CGPA of 3.83, I'm finishing up my Masters and my GPA for that is 3.93. I also just got my MCAT score back and got a 517 (130 in everything except CARS which was 127!). I know McGill this cycle is no longer looking at prerequisite GPA specifically and the average GPA for IP students admitted last year was 3.87. I'm just wondering how I'd fare this year as I feel my undergrad CGPA may be too low (considering this can take up to 70% of my pre interview score). I was pretty happy with my MCAT this year and definitely wanna apply with it but McGill made it pretty unclear as to what extent it can support an application this cycle. Any thoughts/advice?
  4. I'd just like a second opinion (apart from what I understand). The UofA website says: >"A resident of Alberta is defined as a Canadian Citizen or Permanent Resident (Landed Immigrant) who has been continuously resident in the Province of Alberta, the Yukon, the Northwest Territories or Nunavut for at least one year immediately before the first day of classes of the term for which admission is sought. The one-year residence period shall not be considered broken where the admission committee is satisfied that the applicant was temporarily out of the province on vacation, in short-term employment, or as a full-time student. Applicants on study permit cannot establish residence during a period as a full-time student in an Alberta secondary or postsecondary institution because a stay under study permit is considered to be a visiting period." I lived in Alberta for 30 months consecutively as a full-time student under a study permit. So from what I understand, I'm considered IP at the UofC but not UofA?
  5. Hi All, I'm an in province student with an academic average of 88%. I got a 503 on my MCAT, and I'm trying to decide whether or not I should retake it. I'm going into my fourth year, so I have time to take it again at the beginning of September. Thoughts?? Do I need to retake it?
  6. Hey guys, so I'm IP BC, I've cross posted in UBC thread so hopefully not violating terms by posting here too.... Wondering if I work for 6-8 months rurally within Alberta whether I'd qualify for Alberta residency and rural considerations? If I got Alberta residency, do I get to keep my BC IP one if I'm back in BC and working by April / May next year? I will simultaneously be doing online schoolwork out of BC universities. What would be decent, competitive IP stats for Alberta? How many weeks out of each month, or months out of the year would I be required to live/work in either place in order to get my residency?
  7. Hey guys, so I'm IP BC, I've cross posted in UBC/UoA thread so hopefully not violating terms by posting here too.... Wondering if I work for 6-8 months rurally within Alberta whether I'd qualify for Alberta residency and rural considerations? If I got Alberta residency, do I get to keep my BC IP one if I'm back in BC and working by April / May next year? I will simultaneously be doing online schoolwork out of BC universities. What would be decent, competitive IP stats for UoC? How many weeks out of each month, or months out of the year would I be required to live/work in Alberta in order to get my residency?
  8. As a former premed, I recall sorting out the details and understanding the requirements of different faculties to be a little daunting/intimidating, particularly if coming from a non-traditional background. I've created a two page guide outlining on: page 1 - relative importance/weight and range for (GPA, EC, MCAT); page 2 - details concerning GPA calculations, course loads, second degree policies, summer courses, grad policies, etc.. I've been on premed for some time and notice the same questions come up often, so hopefully the guide will help orient people. A number more details could be added, but this may give a first step in understanding where one's chances are. I haven't included Manitoba, Memorial, NOSM, Saskatchewan, or the francophone Quebec schools, since either I'm not familiar with their policies or they don't tend to admit many out of province or general profile students. The guide is only a first step and doesn't have all details - check the websites, contact the schools, etc.. for final clarifications. Clearly, page 1 is a little subjective, but it seems to be the range that I have observed or seen stats for typical admitted students. Finally, as far as I know the information is accurate, but if there are disagreements or inaccuracies, please let me know. I hope this will prove useful to you as you begin or continue your journey. I received useful advice and found good info here, so hopefully this will help you. Good luck! EDIT: Updated June 5, 2016 (with UOttawa MCAT) MetaPremedvJune2016.pdf
  9. Bonjour, Est-ce qu'il y a des candidats universitaires acceptés à McGill (ou qui sont à une très bonne position sur la liste d'attente) croyant laisser leur place pour une autre université? Maintenant que les universités francophones ont sorti leurs réponses et que j'attends toujours désespérément que la liste d'attente de McGill avance, je me suis dit que ça pourrait être une idée de s'écrire ici à ce sujet histoire de garder espoir et rester à jour haha Merci ! ************************* Hi everyone, I was wondering if IP university students that are accepted in McGill (or in a good position in the waitlist) are thinking about accepting another university offer ? I'm still desperately waiting for the waitlist to move and I know that many med schools now gave their answers. I thought it could be a good idea to write to each other here on our decision making so we can stay up to date with the waitlist as much as possible without always waiting on the McGill's website to release their stats hehe Thanks !
  10. I am just curious about the stats on the GPA & MCAT for accepted/interviewed rural applicants. Also does anyone have any idea roughly how many people apply that meet the rural applicant status? Lastly, I would appreciate if someone could give me a rough range of what GPA is needed for an interview? Is a 3.6 and 30/505 a decent min to get an interview? I appreciate any input!
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