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Hi everyone, Currently creating my school list as a Canadian applicant to US MD. I'm using MSAR to create the list and these are a few schools I'm not sure whether it would be worth applying to (MCAT: 514, sGPA: 3.80, ORM) - Georgetown - University of Illinois - Michigan State - Chapel Hill - Sidney Kimmel - West Virgina - Univ of Arizona These schools technically accept Canadians but it doesn't seem like they accepted many (if any) in 2020. Does anyone know any Canadians who were successful at these schools? Any recommendations? Thanks in advance!

***NOW UPDATED WITH THE 2019 MSAR*** The new MSAR values are given at the top of each school's description with a heading MSAR 2019. Note that this means using MSAR values released on 2019. They're for class entering fall 2018. Hi fellow non-Americans,As noncitizens, we face greater difficulty than Americans - there are schools that flat out reject any international applications, schools that say they accept but never really interview anyone (looking at you, Tufts and Baylor), and schools that are super friendly towards us. Of course, they're all on MSAR, but unless some screams MSAR at you you won't look at it. It took me a while to come up with a list via MSAR, supplanted with wisdoms of **DELETED** and SDN. I'm now writing to share that with you so you won't have to go through same process. Everything here is based on 2017 MSAR, and things can change. So go buy that MSAR and start looking at it!Applying is just one aspect. There's also the financial problem - US MD schools are quite expensive, and we can't get federal financial aid. No FAFSA for us. Probably don't have a cosigner to get private loans, too. So unless you can come up with a brilliant way to fund half a million dollars, your acceptance is going to be rescinded. That's not nice - so something definitely to think about before applying to 40 schools. There are schools that will provide some sort of funding - loans, grants - to non-Americans, but there aren't that many. Keep this in mind before sending your application. Ontarians can take OSAP and loans with co-signer from CIBC, RBC, TD, etc for max $250,000 CDN and ~$40,000 OSAP. No clue about other provinces.Quoting @Goro, International students need to be Harvard/Stanford calibre. While this may be an exaggeration (sorta), do keep in mind that if there is another American candidate that's exact replica of us, he/she will probably get in over us. Higher stats, ECs are expected from us. Sucks, but that's life. Also doesn't help that most of international-friendly schools are clustered near the top.Few quick points: Public schools are less likely to take in internationals than Americans. Go for private. Kentucky loving Canadians is a notable exception to this. Top schools are more likely to take in internationals AND give financial aid. Forget about Texas and California. Schools taking 1 international students are excluded on this list. Quoting @gyngyn, they're likely to be inside candidates. He recommends 3 or above. There are couple schools taking 1-2 internationals on this list, though it's mostly because they've taken more in the past. When it says 'no Aid', its for Canadian/Internationals. Not for Americans. When it says 90hr/1yr/Bachelors required, that's for International students outside of US/Canada. If you're Canadian or internationals student who went to US undergrad, dont need to worry about this. US Permanent Residents = US Citizens DACA = for the most part, international students Thos with CoA ??? = I couldn't find the total cost of attendance. I might've written total tuition costs next to it. Also keep in mind that CoA is just an estimate! Schools providing Financial Aid: These schools are willing to provide some form of financial aid to international/Canadian students, whether in forms of Loans or Grants. Mostly rich schools high up in the ladder.Columbia (Vagelos) MSAR 2019: 3.89/520, 4 International Matriculants (474 app / 31 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.87/519, 5 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.87/519, 7 International Matriculants. CoA $380K(!). Has financial aid, although significant amount of it is in loans. Requires 3 full year + Bachelor's degree in USCAN. Duke MSAR 2019: 3.86/518, 2 International Matriculants (381 app / 53 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.88/519, 0 International Matriculants (!!). MSAR 2017: 3.85/516. 3 International Matriculants. CoA $310K. Has financial aid in forms of Need-based grant. Requires 1 year of post-sec Ed on USCAN. MD/PhD is only for Americans. Dartmouth (Geisel) MSAR 2019: 3.74/516, 8 (!) International Matriculants (662 app / 48 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.74/515, 4 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.78/515, 5 International matriculants. CoA $344K. States that it can provide 'need-based financial institutional scholarships and loans'. Requires 3yr of post-sec Ed in USCAN. Has a reputation for loving nontrads. Harvard MSAR 2019: 3.93/520, 16 (!!) International Matriculants (486 app / 44 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.92/519, 6 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.92/518, 16 International matriculants. The most international-friendly school. CoA $370K. Aid is available with a unit loan. 1Yr post-sec ed on USCAN, although states that 'without Bachelor's in US/CAN rarely accepted.' Mount Sinai (Icahn) MSAR 2019: 3.88/519, 5 International Matriculants (382 app / 20 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.87/519, 5 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.84/519, 4 International matriculants. CoA $290K. Aid is available ($31500/yr) + Merit scholarships. Loans for 3/4th years via Mpower. Will accept international education after evaluation from WES but strongly encourages NA education Northwestern (Feinberg) MSAR 2019: 3.91/520, 0 International Matriculants (358 app / 19 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.91/520, 0 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.9/519, 3 International matriculants. MSAR says 1, but NW says 3 on its page. wtf? CoA $350K, Aid is available. 3Yr post-sec Ed on USCAN. Stanford MSAR 2019: 3.93/520, 9 International Matriculants (401 app / 0 (???) interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.86/519, 5 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.89/518, 5 International matriculants. CoA $352K, aid is available in forms of Grants and Loans. Need to show proof of 1 year of tuition. 1Yr post-sec ed on USCAN. Vanderbilt MSAR 2019: 3.93/521, 4 International Matriculants (335 app / 16 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.91/521, 7 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.9/520, 6 International matriculants. CoA $350K, aid is available. 'Recommend' 1yr Post-sec ed on USCAN. Yale MSAR 2019: 3.92/522, 8 International Matriculants (480 app / 39 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.88/521, 11 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.89/518, 10 International matriculants. CoA $355K, aid is available with a unit loan. 3Yr post-sec Ed on USCAN. Johns Hopkins MSAR 2019: 3.94/521, 7 International Matriculants (617 app / 22 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.94/520, 8 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.92/519, 9 international matriculants. CoA $320K, aid is available. 1yr post-sec Ed on USCAN. Mayo - MN (Alix) MSAR 2019: 3.94/520, 6 International Matriculants (297 app / 27 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.91/517, 0 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.85/513. US/Canadians only. 2 Canadian matriculants. Only for MN - AZ/FL dont take Canadians. CoA 330K. Aid available per current Canadian student Schools that won't provide Financial Aid/Canadian Only: These schools will only accept Canadian applicants in additions to usual Americans. They will not provide any forms of financial aid. Some may have escrow requirement.George Washington MSAR 2019: 3.79/513, 4 International Matriculants (731 app / 26 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.72/511, 4 Canadian Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.72/511, super low-yield chool. 2 Canadian matriculants. CoA $320K(??). No aid available. Has a weird 'special International MD program' for international students, designed for said students to leave US and practice in their home country. Probably not something you're looking for. Regular MD is only for US/Canadians. Michigan State - Public MSAR 2019: 3.71/508, 2 International Matriculants (499 app / 3 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.68/507, 3 Canadian Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.71/507. US/Canadians only. 3 Canadian matriculants. CoA $330K. No aid available Maryland- Public MSAR 2019: 3.83/514, 2 Canadian Matriculants (188 app / 14 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.84/513, 3 Canadian Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.85/515. US/Canadians only. 2 Canadian matriculants. CoA $380K (!) No aid available. Virginia Commonwealth - Public MSAR 2019: 3.78/512, 5 Canadian Matriculants (296 app / 0(!!) interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.74/511, 2 Canadian Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.74/511. Super low-yield. 4 Canadian matriculants. CoA $275K. Canadians are essentially considered as OOS Americans. No aid available. Wayne State MSAR 2019: 3.74/510, 9 International Matriculants (662 app / 65 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.74/509, 18 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.76/508. US/Canadians, and any international student who went to Wayne State as undergrad. 8 International matriculants. CoA $350K. No aid available. Central Michigan - Public MSAR 2019: 3.71/509, 3 International Matriculants (587 app / 0 (!!) interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.74/506, 4 Canadian Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.7/504, US/Canadians only. 5 Canadian matriculants. CoA $384K(!!) the most expensive school on the list. Wants ties to Central Michigan. Being in Canada doesn't count. Schools that won't provide Financial Aid: These schools will consider all international applications, but will not provide any forms of Financial aid. Some may have escrow requirement.Boston MSAR 2019: 3.84/518, 6 International Matriculants (647 app / 62 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.83/518, 11 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.81/516, 11 International Matriculants. Low-yield school. CoA $350K. No financial aid. Requires 2 year of post-secondary education + prerequisites done in US/CAN. Emory MSAR 2019: 3.8/515, 5 International Matriculants (453 app / 17interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.79/515, 3 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.79/515, 4 international matriculants. CoA $320K. No financial aid. Requires 32hr of science coursework on USCAN. Georgetown MSAR 2019: 3.79/513, 4 International Matriculants (731 app / 26 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.8/513, 9 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.74/512, 5 international matriculants. Super low-yield. CoA $370K. No financial Aid. Needs foreign transcript evaluated. Medical College of Wisconsin MSAR 2019: 3.74/510, 4 International Matriculants (434 app / 14 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.79/511, 4 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.76/515, 1 international matriculants. CoA $275K. No financial aid. Requires document supporting your ability to pay up $254K. 90hr of ed on USCAN. Casper required. Wants to see shadowing. Canadians beware New York Medical College MSAR 2019: 3.67/512, 4 International Matriculants (619 app / 11 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.63/511, 4 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.65/512. 4 international matriculants. No secondary = super low yield. CoA ???. No financial aid. Escrow requirement of $239K. Prereqs must be done on USCAN. Bachelors' strongly recommended. Penn State MSAR 2019: 3.81/511, 2 International Matriculants (580 app / 9 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.82/510, 2 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.82/509. 1 International matriculants. CoA $285K. No financial aid. All prereq must be done on USCAN. Penn (Perelman) MSAR 2019: 3.92/521, 2 International Matriculants (366 app / 13 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.88/520, 1 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.87/518. 6 International matriculants. CoA ???, Tuition only is $240K. No Financial Aid. Gives good amount of scholarships but disappointing from such a rich school 1yr ed on USCAN. Pittsburgh MSAR 2019: 3.87/517, 3 International Matriculants (346 app / 9 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.86/517, 3 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.85/515. 3 International matriculants. CoA $330K. Escrow requirement of 2-yr tuition. No financial aid. 1yr + prereqs done on USCAN. Saint Louis University MSAR 2019: 3.91/514, 14 International Matriculants (483 app / 63 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.89/513, 12 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.87/512. 11 International matriculants. CoA $295K. Escrow requirement of $210K. No aid. Requires TOEFL or SAT as test of English proficiency. Jefferson (Sidney Kimmel) MSAR 2019: 3.75/514, 8 International Matriculants (617 app / 22 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.74/514, 5 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.75/512. 9 International matriculants. Super low-yield. CoA $308K. No Aid available. Requires Bachelors from USCAN. SUNY-Upstate - Public MSAR 2019: 3.79/514, 7 International Matriculants (463 app / 23 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.73/513, 7 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.75/512. 8 International matriculants. CoA $367K. No aid available. Requires 90hr post-sec ed on USCNA. Likes Canadians SUNY-Stony Brook (Renaissance) - Public MSAR 2019: 3.84/516, 16 International Matriculants (379 app / 39 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.82/514, 9 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.8/514. 3 International matriculants. CoA $370K. Needs 'Affidavit of support' for this amount. 1yr post-sec ed on USCAN. Tulane MSAR 2019: 3.64/512, 8 International Matriculants (627 app / 15 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.64/511, 4 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.62/511. 5 International matriculants. CoA $355K. No aid available. Casper required. Hawaii (Burns) - Public MSAR 2019: 3.82/513, 2 International Matriculants (194 app / 18 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.82/513, 2 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.76/510. 2 International matriculants. CoA ?? No aid available. Prereqs recommended to be done on USCAN. Kentucky - Public MSAR 2019: 3.79/508, 1 International Matriculants (287 app / 8 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.83/511, 6 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.82/512. 8 International matriculants. Known to love Canadians. CoA $371K. No aid available. Need document supporting ability to pay 2 yr tuition. 1yr on USCAN. Application status changed from 'accepting all Canadians/Internationals' to 'Case-by-Case' for all Int/Canadian applications. Not sure of the consequence. Virginia - Public MSAR 2019: 3.93/519, 2 International Matriculants (295 app / 20 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.91/519, 8 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.9/518. 2 International matriculants. According to my advisor's medical handbook, they treat Canadians like OOS Americans. CoA 335K. 90hr on USCAN or UK. Washington University @ STL MSAR 2019: 3.93/522, 10 International Matriculants (312 app / 78 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.91/521, 9 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.89/521. 8 International matriculants. CoA 335K. Escrow requirement. No need-based aid available (Merit aid is). 90hr on USCAN. Cornell (Weill) MSAR 2019: 3.9/519, 0 International Matriculants (385 app / 26 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.87/519, 2 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.78/519. 5 International matriculants. CoA $355K. Escrow requirement. No aid available. Lona Linda MSAR 2019: 3.88/509, 13 International Matriculants (406 app / 22 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.83/508, 17 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.86/508. 10 International matriculants. For SDA, super devout Christians. DO NOT APPLY IF YOUR FAITH DOESNT MATCH UP (SUPER DEVOUT CHRISTIAN) CoA ??? $225K tuition only. No aid available. 1yr on USCAN. Howard MSAR 2019: 3.51/504, 10 International Matriculants (626 app / 17 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.45/502, 5 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.41/502. 9 International matriculant. HBCU. CoA $304K. No aid available. 68hr on USCAN. Case Western / CCLCM MSAR 2019: 3.83/518, 2 International Matriculants (220 app / 2 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.82/518, 7 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: did not accept Internationals 3.81/517. CoA $356K. No need-based aid, though Merit Aid is possible. CCLCM covers everything. UCLA MSAR 2019: 3.88/518, 3 International Matriculants (702 app / 16 interviewed) MSAR 2018: 3.85/517, 9 International Matriculants MSAR 2017: 3.79/508. 2 International matriculants. Their MCAT went from 508 to 517, so..yeah. big jump there. No Escrow, but No financial aid either. Eligible for Geffen and another full-tuition merit scholarship. Thanks @mikooz! ***NOW ACCEPTING INTERNATIONALS*** Meharry MSAR 2019: 3.54/502, 10 International Matriculants (336 app / 3 interviewed) HBCU! West Virginia MSAR 2019: 3.86/509, 3 International Matriculants (317 app / 19 interviewed) Random addition to the international list ***HALL OF SHAME OF BARRICADING INTERNATIONALS GOING FORWARD*** Albert Einstein College of Medicine NOT ACCEPTING CANADIAN/INTERNATIONAL APPLICANTS FOR 2019-2020 CYCLE! MSAR 2018: 3.82/515, 5 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.83/516, 5 International Matriculants. CoA $290K. Has an escrow requirement: 2 year for Non-Canadians, half of 1 year tuition for Canadians. Financial aid is available through Einstein Scholarship and College Loan Funds. Requires 1 year post-secondary education in US/Canada. NYU Langone NOT ACCEPTING CANADIAN/INTERNATIONAL APPLICANTS GOING FORWARD! MSAR 2018: 3.92/521, 0 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.9/520. Not just Canadians, but also Canadian PRs. Maybe this is why there are other non-Canadians in their MSAR. 2 International matriculants. Willing to provide Merit scholarships but no other forms of Financial Aid. CoA 335K (4yr pathway) . No aid available. Rosalind Franklin NOT ACCEPTING CANADIAN/INTERNATIONAL APPLICANTS GOING FORWARD! MSAR 2018: 3.62/518, 9 International Matriculants. MSAR 2017: 3.63/511, 8 International Matriculants. Low-yield school. CoA $300K. No financial aid. Needs Casper. Requires 90hr of post-sec Ed on USCAN. Oakland Beaumont***We Hate Internationals But We Love That $weet $econdary Fee!***In other words, applying to these schools is a waste of your precious secondary fee. Baylor East Tennessee USC (Keck) Louisiana, McGovern, Morehouse, NEOMED, Rutgers (both of them), All Texas schools (+Baylor) Brown, Tufts, all PR schools, Arizona, All UCs EXCEPT UCLA, Chicago (Pritzker), Colorado, Connecticut, Illinois, Louisville, UNC Chapel Hill, Utah 2019 Analysis: Sadly (or SAD! in American way), three schools dropped out of international-friendly list: NYU, Einstein, and Rosalind Franklin. I heard Einstein might re-open their doors to internationals (like Case did last year), but not sure for the other two. SAD! BUT Meharry and West Virginia joins the list of admitting 3+ internationals/class for this year. Yay! Note on Meharry and Howard: Know that these two are HBCU, or historically black college. 90%+ of their classes are black or African American. If you aren't member of the target group, then your application likely won't be considered. Just something to consider before paying the secondary fee. Harvard, Stanford, Yale, SLU, Loma Lida, and SLU remained as the most international-friendly schools of America for this year. But that rise in Stony Brook is impressive. Wonder what happened? In contrast, the drop in numbers for Boston, UCLA, Virginia and Wayne (although still lots) is disappointing. The discrepancy in # interviews and # acceptance for Stanford, VCU and CMED is confusing. No idea what happened. That's it - good luck with your applicaiton!That's it. MSAR says 71 schools are willing to take International/Canadian applications. After some analysis, the list comes down to 42 for Canadians and 33 for internationals. There are schools that have taken more in the fast - ie. Utah took in 3 internationals 2015-2016. They aren't included in this list as none made it last year with only 5 interviews. Or schools like Duke that took a couple for 2016 but none for 2017. Schools not listed here and listed 'accepts International/Canadian applications' are likely to just shred your application and take your $$ as donations. Chicago (Pritzker) apparently 'used' to be int-friendly. None made it for class matriculating 2016. Your call. Wrote this up while dodging my PI's smoldering gaze at me, so there may be typos here and there. Point them out and I'd be happy to fix them up. Feel free to rip me apart if something's not true, and good luck.

It seems that US medical schools start earlier in the year and end later... is this incorrect?

I’m a USMD applying to Carms for internal med this year. I did 3 months of electives including a CTU elective in Canada. I have 3 solid letters from Canada that I want to use (2 from the same CTU elective plus one from a subspecialty) and one solid one from my home CTU in the US that I’m wondering about. Someone told me that it looks strange if you have no letters from your home CTU. Can anyone confirm this? Any thoughts? I was planning on just using the Canadian ones since my US letter writer won’t have the name recognition here and may not know the vocabulary to use to get the interest of selection committees here.

I’m a USMD applying to Carms for IM this year. I did 3 months of electives including a CTU elective in Canada. I have 3 solid letters from Canada that I want to use (2 from the same CTU elective plus one from a subspecialty) and one solid one from my home CTU in the US that I’m wondering about. Someone told me that it looks strange if you have no letters from your home CTU. Can anyone confirm this? I was planning on just using the Canadian ones since my US letter writer won’t have the name recognition here and may not know the vocabulary to use to get the interest of selection committees here.

Hi everyone! I need some advice on my options on applying to US medical schools. I've had a rough start to my undergrad, and hope someone (anyone) help me out, especially canadians who have gotten into US medical schools . Im really sorry in advance for the long and possibly annoying post, but here it goes: Im a 3rd year undergrad student in Canada,Ontario. My first year i've gotten all C+'s (assuming this is a 2 something on the american scale), and this was with a reduced course load! Here's the problem, I cant apply to Canadian schools because they heavily penalize students who haven't taken a full course load, and getting horrible first year grades doesn't help my situation .Second year rolls around, I try increasing my course load (to a 60% load), and I get ~3.7 gpa for the first semester . After first semester of 2nd year, I dropped out and took a year off. Then, after my year off i came back to finish my 2nd year, and I end up getting ~3.9 during the year (with full course loads). Currently, im in my 3rd year and Im thinking about taking my mcat this summer. Ok so finally, the question is that do i still have a chance at MD schools, or am i fighting an upward battle thats impossible to achieve? Oh and for extracurriculars i have : Research (4 months), Volunteering with food banks, and Volunteering at a homeless shelter, and No shadowing hours or Leadership positions yet.

Hello everybody, I am a Canadian master's student from Ontario looking to apply to USMD/USDO. Here are my stats: cGPA: 3.55 (2 years in Engineering and then 2 years medical withdrawal, transferred into a Science program after that) sGPA: 3.60 MCAT: 522 Lizzym: ~75 Massive upward trend (I had a 3.0 during my Engineering undergrad, and a 4.0 in my last 2 years during my Science undergrad) ECs: multiple publications, 3 years research experience, posters, 300hrs+ volunteer experience, 2 years as a paid personal support worker at a hospital, overseas volunteering in undeserved communities and at a soup kitchen, varsity soccer in high school and cross country in uni, leadership roles in university (started some science-related clubs), etc. My list so far is: MD Albany Albert Einstein Boston Case Western Central Michigan Emory Geisel George Washington Georgetown Hawaii Kentucky Louisiana State Mayo Michigan State NYMC Rosalind Franklin Sidney Kimmel New York Upstate and Downstate Virginia Commonwealth William Beaumont Wayne State DO Michigan State UNECOM Western Touro Chicago COM That is what I have so far, but I feel I am being overly optimistic for some schools like Mayo. I would appreciate any insight as to what schools I should add or remove. Thanks in advance for your help!

Hello, I am a long time lurker, and this is my first post. I was wondering if my fellow Canadian comrades could post some statistics on their GPA/MCAT/ECs and what US MD schools they're currently attending so I have an idea of the level of competition. Just confirming I am a Canadian CITIZEN. Also, I have the following stats, I would really appreciate some feedback and perhaps recommendations on certain schools that fit my experiences/scores: 516 on the MCAT (129/128/130/129) 3.8 GPA (Perfect GPA last 2 years, how significantly do they care about trends??) ECs: Lots of volunteering at a hospital in patient care (300+ hours) 2 publications with a neurosurgeon Spent the majority of my undergrad playing a varsity sport for my school, The remaining time was spent teaching special needs students with a company in my community and coaching. Did a few outreach clubs and have exec positions here and there, but nothing too serious outside of teaching, sports, and research. Lots of random awards by the university and province for sports, high class standing awards, and a bunch of smaller things. I have NO SHADOWING experience, given it isn't emphasized in Canada but please recommend whether it is very important to the states. I know it's a lot of questions but would REALLY appreciate it, thank you

Hey guys, I'm at a cross-road for where to go if I want to continue the dream of getting into med school. I really goofed up my first couple years leading to an ~3.4 GPA after 6 years (5 years of BioSci and 1 year Psyc minor). The last 2-3 years were decent with a respective 3.6, 3.96, 3.8 GPA. Unfortunately I can't seem to get over the MCAT hump having written 3 times with a 500, 501, and 502 scores. The last one (502) had a 126 in CARS so I decided to apply to UofC and UofA being from Alberta (although definitely not holding my breath). I have very good ECs including fluency in 3 languages, lots of travel experience, and varsity soccer for what it's worth. I've all but given up on the Canadian dream and deciding what my best shot is for med school with hopes of returning back after I'm done. The choice is between USDO, Australia, and Ireland and from the numerous threads I've read so far, it seems like Australia has the slight edge over the others due to the fact that they give MD degrees as well as residency if I am unable to match back to Canada. So I want to get some advice on what you have all found. I'm biased in that I don't want to travel a full day across the world to Australia especially if I'll need to make that commute several times for blocks in order to establish networks here for a possible return. This other thread made USDO sound equivalent to the Australia and Ireland IMG path but that sounds too good to be true. I feel there is bias against USDO degrees rather than USMD or degress from Ireland/Australia. I'd obviously love to stay within North America but I want to maximize my chances of matching. If it helps, I'm aiming for family medicine which is supposedly the least competitive anyways. TLDR: With a 3.4 cGPA and 502 MCAT, what would you do if you were me? USDO/AUS/IRE??? Thanks!

Can you guys let me know which banks were easiest to get a loan from? I'm hoping to get into a Canadian school but if not I'll be going to the US. I have several interviews lined up in the coming weeks. Worried about finances since my family is middle class. Thanks.

Hey everyone, Since Queens changed their grading scales in 2011, I was wondering if someone who went to Queens and submitted an application to AMCAS or AACOMAS could tell me how AMCAS/AACOMAS converts Queen's U, letter grades i.e. what would an A- be, an A, a B+, B, B-, etc. Thanks

Hi all, so my situation is as follows: cGPA 3.95 for past 3 years since im a 4th year undergrad 512 MCAT with (131,124,129,128) sections are listed in order they appear so 124 is the CARS. I've heard of people getting USMD interviews with scores like 12/7/14 on the old MCAT, just don't know how a 124 in the new MCAT is viewed. decent to average EC's like hospital volunteering, basic research, tutoring etc... Just wondering if I stand a good chance at an interview for USMD even if its a low tier school. Would appreciate any feedback. Also I'm thinking of applying with my score and rewriting the mcat AFTER submitting the AMCAS application to be competitive to Canadian schools. Thoughts on that? Also if my score improves (which I hope to do so especially in the CARS section, can I update the us med schools on my better score?) Thanks again!

Question for current US MD candidates: So I've applied to a number of US MD schools and had a few interviews which I felt good about, but now I'm having pretty serious doubts about how paying for all of this is going to go since the current USD/CDN= 1.33. It would just really suck if I were accepted and but then had to be relegated to the Caribbean because US MD was too expensive. Ontario is a possibility where I stand, but I can't depend on it. I understand that Canadian banks can give me LOC up to $275,000 CAD, that OSAP can help a bit (anyone know how much?), and I've got a small parental contribution that's meager in comparison with what I'll need. For instance, one of the schools I interviewed at has listed tuition/fees + living expenses to be $85,000 USD/year. Now this would be okay if we USD/CAN was 1 or lower like during that lovely recession, but the current ratio is really making me worried since, since assuming that $275,000 CAD was the max LOC, my total expenses would far surpass it at $452,000. I've accepted that if I go this route, I'm going to have massive debt, but are there other viable loan options for me to consider? Is multiple LOCs a thing? Is this published LOC limit a hard cut-off under these circumstances? How are current US MDs who don't have large contributions from parents/savings doing it? Thanks!