noku95 Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, MDLD said: do u know what ones? UdeM has been declared online as well! guest123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ready2go Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, SoftTings said: Would anyone consider trying to defer for a year if they got accepted? Due to how significantly next year will be impacted by COVID? The thought has crossed my mind I wouldn't defer. I think the schools would do their best to ensure we still receive a high quality education from home. I mostly feel bad for those in clerkship, but I think the preclerkship years can be covered quite well online, with maybe some additional clinical teaching sessions to make up for that lost in person component MDrapper and sweaterweather 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Total Gunner Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, noku95 said: UdeM has been declared online as well! yeah it's highly likely every school will be virtual at the start at least. noku95 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Nystead Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Guys you wont be allowed to defer from matriculation unless you have a really good reason. All of us are affected by this at a baseline level, this wont fly Clinical exposure early on is very important to picking a specialty tho. Mac does a decent job at this out of both choice and necessity as a 3 year program. However, due to COVID-19, this will not be possible, just keep that into consideration when youre choosing between multiple offers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftTings Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Just now, William Osler said: Guys you wont be allowed to defer from matriculation unless you have a really good reason. All of us are affected by this at a baseline level, this wont fly It's impossible to say since this situation has never occurred in recent history. It's a global pandemic, I think if anybody really wanted to they could probably make a pretty strong case for a deferral. Exactly how each school would handle it, of course I'm not sure ptstudent96 and guest123 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Nystead Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Just now, SoftTings said: It's impossible to say since this situation has never occurred in recent history. It's a global pandemic, I think if anybody really wanted to they could probably make a pretty strong case for a deferral. Exactly how each school would handle it, of course I'm not sure Everybody would make the same case tho and if schools allow one to defer, others will try. Mass deferral of acceptances will create imbalanced class sizes and take spots away from those next year which cannot happen medicallyricalmiracle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takasugi Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 I wouldn't defer either if I had the option. I just want to get started! And yeah, I don't think they'll give you an option to defer just because it's online. The amount of people that would defer I think would not be insignificant and would complicate things too much. I don't think its a good enough reason either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Total Gunner Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, SoftTings said: It's impossible to say since this situation has never occurred in recent history. It's a global pandemic, I think if anybody really wanted to they could probably make a pretty strong case for a deferral. Exactly how each school would handle it, of course I'm not sure I agree. but I just want to echo that just because some classes are online at the start and we won't have an O week, do not let that stop you from starting this beautiful journey you've worked so hard to start. sweaterweather 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftTings Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, William Osler said: Everybody would make the same case tho and if schools allow one to defer, others will try. Mass deferral of acceptances will create imbalanced class sizes and take spots away from those next year which cannot happen The general point I'm making is that it's impossible to say anything with certainty. It's a global pandemic, the likes of which nobody involved in the process has experienced in their lifetime. We really don't know how schools will handle it, and how accommodating they may be Since the global situation is so extreme, in a way we are all experiencing "extenuating circumstances". But again, who knows how the schools may interpret that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungdoc Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, SoftTings said: The general point I'm making is that it's impossible to say anything with certainty. It's a global pandemic, the likes of which nobody involved in the process has experienced in their lifetime. We really don't know how schools will handle it, and how accommodating they may be Since the global situation is so extreme, in a way we are all experiencing "extenuating circumstances". But again, who knows how the schools may interpret that The current situation doesn't remove the downstream impact on our system if there are not enough doctors to meet demands in the coming years. I can almost guarantee that if you do not have a compelling case (e.g. a severely sick family member) during this pandemic, you will be expected to start your medical education on track. This isn't about the best optimal educational experience for YOU (the individual), it's about training enough competent doctors to meet the needs of society (and that certainly does not stop during a pandemic). That's not to say you won't receive a quality education; it may just not be as traditional as in previous years. medicallyricalmiracle, Ms1998, ontariopremed and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicallyricalmiracle Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 minute ago, yungdoc said: The current situation doesn't remove the downstream impact on our system if there are not enough doctors to meet demands in the coming years. I can almost guarantee that if you do not have a compelling case (e.g. a severely sick family member) during this pandemic, you will be expected to start your medical education on track. This isn't about the best optimal educational experience for YOU (the individual), it's about training enough competent doctors to meet the needs of society (and that certainly does not stop during a pandemic). Agreed. It’s just not enough of a unique/strong reason to warrant a deferral since everyone is going through it. It’d be like saying that a war going on is stressing you out. It’s valid, but doesn’t affect you specifically. Most deferrals I’ve heard of are about finishing grad degrees, caring for children/loved ones during a particularly turblent time, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftTings Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 http://bullandbearmcgill.com/breaking-mcgill-plans-remote-instruction-for-fall-semester/?fbclid=IwAR2VaW7A68IIwB6Yi5GmY5P7O5MjhBebBnmxLSxioE8CyAewnnftzmYYHJo On a separate note, McGill just announced they're conducting classes remotely for fall semester (all faculties) Crunch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbmed Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 The year may start off different, but I imagine they'll all find ways to make up for lost clinical skills time and all the other fun things like O-week and the WC/stethoscope ceremonies. No matter what you end up doing in the next year, it's gonna look different from what would have been. Plus, I'm far less concerned about the impact of a pandemic on year one than the rest of the years (esp. clinical years). It's a challenging, frustrating, and sometimes depressing situation, absolutely, but there's not much anyone can do but make the best of it and trust that things will rebound and we'll do our best to make up for losses. sweaterweather, ontariopremed and CHG 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon_9 Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 According to this OMSAS live chatter, it seems that OMSAS offers will be updated on midnight. Though she said that we should check again the next day in case they don't appear right away. kreedz, PequalsMD, MD_Dream97 and 6 others 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kreedz Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Anon_9 said: According to this OMSAS live chatter, it seems that OMSAS offers will be updated on midnight. Though she said that we should check again the next day in case they don't appear right away. Oh god. Panic. Dr. Shqipe, chxiel and Ms1998 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaterweather Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Oh my god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
short_stack Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Next day like May 13? Or sometime later in the day on May 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaterweather Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Just now, short_stack said: Next day like May 13? I think tonight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
short_stack Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 minute ago, cantstopwontstop said: I think tonight? I'm referring to the checking again the next day, if you don't see something right away. Do they mean next day like May 13? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaterweather Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Just now, short_stack said: I'm referring to the checking again the next day, if you don't see something right away Ah ok, I think so then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrOtter Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, short_stack said: I'm referring to the checking again the next day, if you don't see something right away. Do they mean next day like May 13? Schools should have let you know by end of May 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedD Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Omg I can't handle the wait, can they release it already!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabeprazole Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, VanD said: Omg I can't handle the wait, can they release it already!!!!! No. MedD and ballercat 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHG Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 25 minutes ago, hbmed said: The year may start off different, but I imagine they'll all find ways to make up for lost clinical skills time and all the other fun things like O-week and the WC/stethoscope ceremonies. No matter what you end up doing in the next year, it's gonna look different from what would have been. Plus, I'm far less concerned about the impact of a pandemic on year one than the rest of the years (esp. clinical years). It's a challenging, frustrating, and sometimes depressing situation, absolutely, but there's not much anyone can do but make the best of it and trust that things will rebound and we'll do our best to make up for losses. Can confirm that we are already looking at ways to make all the class bonding stuff happen, including the possibility of more celebrations later in the year! Us preclerks are in the best possible position right now in terms of impact on our academics. Many schools are also looking at the possibility of keeping some components online even after this situation settles - we're going to be seeing a major shift in curriculum in the coming years, so don't let online learning freak you out too much. We've been online since March so feel free to message me with any questions about how that stuff is expected to run and I'll do my best to answer MedD and PEP2019 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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