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James Nystead Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, worst24hours said: I have a 4.0 but a 126 and I got interviews at all three somehow. Big sigh Mac turned out like this If you get any other offer and Mac, take the other offer and run far far away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kangarooyoman Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, worst24hours said: I have a 4.0 but a 126 and I got interviews at all three somehow. Big sigh Mac turned out like this Do you have the button? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Nystead Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 So how will the waitlist be done? By pre-interview ranking or lottery - Im leaning to the latter It doesnt make sense to lottery and then revert back to ranking after admitting that all 450 applicants have equivalent chances of admission. It doesnt take much work to random number generator a number between 1 and n (number of applicants on the waitlist) each time a spot opens. However, why not just keep everyone on the waitlist then instead of rejecting some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SnowmanTheSWOMEN Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Just now, pureblue said: they straight up said in the email it was all by lottery. they may keep the waitlist a lot larger than normal but reject a small # of people. maybe thats why we see a lot of buttons that's true. i think the waitlist might be huge this year lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Nystead Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Why even reject a small number of people by lottery then? Why not keep them all on the waitlist? Strange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDLD Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 minute ago, William Osler said: Why even reject a small number of people by lottery then? Why not keep them all on the waitlist? Strange to take away some people's hope? lol but in seriousness just so some people can move on with their lives like why keep ~350 hoping when you can cut it to 250 and still fill up the class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Nystead Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 So the order of you coming off the waitlist is also random then eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeshore Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, William Osler said: So how will the waitlist be done? By pre-interview ranking or lottery - Im leaning to the latter It doesnt make sense to lottery and then revert back to ranking after admitting that all 450 applicants have equivalent chances of admission. It doesnt take much work to random number generator a number between 1 and n (number of applicants on the waitlist) each time a spot opens. However, why not just keep everyone on the waitlist then instead of rejecting some I think they are going to take the remaining applicants after the top 100, randomly assign a number from 1 through x. Then, based on previous years' ranking and the amount of accepted, rejected, waitlisted, they'll reject applicants whose number fall in the "rejected" posotions, accept whatever amount they would usually accept starting from 1 to 106 or whatever, and then waitlist the remaining in order and work their way down the waitlist. James Nystead, hijkl and sprite4524 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Nystead Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, MDLD said: like why keep ~350 hoping when you can cut it to 250 and still fill up the class Guess we should ask uOttawa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
short_stack Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Just now, William Osler said: Guess we should ask uOttawa But uO tells you sorta right? Applicants in your position usually don't get accepted? Or is that just western lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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James Nystead Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, rawshrimp said: I think they are going to take the remaining applicants after the top 100, randomly assign a number from 1 through x. Then, based on previous years' ranking and the amount of accepted, rejected, waitlisted, they'll reject applicants whose number fall in the "rejected" posotions, accept whatever amount they would usually accept starting from 1 to 106 or whatever, and then waitlist the remaining in order and work their way down the waitlist. This is the best shit Ive ever read - theyre definitely doing this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Nystead Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 minute ago, short_stack said: But uO tells you sorta right? Applicants in your position usually don't get accepted? Or is that just western lmao Both uO and UWO tell you the status of your waitlist good normal or bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeshore Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, William Osler said: This is the best shit Ive ever read - theyre definitely doing this I feel like this makes the most sense of all the possible ways they might do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamom Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 9 hours ago, worst24hours said: Mac was my first choice :/ I'm so sad we are going through this, ..imo Mac is acting like a tyrannical Deity toying with us mere mortals. Thinking about the button tho .. so Mac would have had to make programming changes to the offers system. Whether that system is developed and maintained by OMSAS or a 3rd party Idk, but during March they will have been told to alter the offer logic to reflect the changes. So this glitch I believe is absolutely mac specific maybe releasing it too early or to the wrong group - but the fact that some people have it and others don't does mean something because somewhere there is logic grouping buttoners together There are several OMSAS IT people on LI lets ask them wtf they did lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ready2go Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Does anyone else find it odd that Mac decided against weighting casper more considering they developed it and touted it as a strong predictor of physician success? Also, it is the closest thing to an MMI. They didn't really even address casper in their email, which makes me even more skeptical of mcmaster. Also to add to the spreadsheets-my stats are 3.95/131 and I don't have the button. I also interviewed at Ottawa. I always tried to avoid these forums but I'm way to frustrated/stressed by macs decision so i need to talk about it somewhere and I just read 70 pages of discussion about this. hijkl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hijkl Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, ready2go said: Does anyone else find it odd that Mac decided against weighting casper more considering they developed it and touted it as a strong predictor of physician success? Also, it is the closest thing to an MMI. They didn't really even address casper in their email, which makes me even more skeptical of mcmaster. Also to add to the spreadsheets-my stats are 3.95/131 and I don't have the button. I also interviewed at Ottawa. I always tried to avoid these forums but I'm way to frustrated/stressed by macs decision so i need to talk about it somewhere and I just read 70 pages of discussion about this. i totally agree. for a school that loves to promote the evaluation methods they developed, they were sure quick to abandon them in a time of uncertainty... ready2go and sprite4524 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
short_stack Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Yeah that's what I don't understand... The whole top 100 having a 70-76% chance of acceptance kind of implies that the MMI is not that useful to actually select people after the initial 100 if they all have ~50% chance anyway. They undermined the MMI and even the CASPer through this decision, in a way. sprite4524, themix and ready2go 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizaloo223 Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 I wish we never discovered the button all it has done is introduce even more uncertainty and questioning Especially since I'm the type of person that loves puzzles/figuring out everything about everything justamom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reginageorge Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 for some reason I just don't believe what the live chat person said. it even shows in the omsas tutorial vids that only those with an offer have the button. and we've done a lot of analysis that leads to us believing that button = lottery offer. perhaps they just don't want to say they made an error... or maybe this is just what I want to believe as a buttoner justamom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsTryThisAgain19 Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Who else is running on no sleep right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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