Which is Easier- York or Mcmaster?

[Guest notic2]

Any first hand experiences??

Thanks

 

The program I'm referring to is Kinesiology

 

Thanks Again - June 14 is coming up really FAST!!!

[Guest Shawndx]

Yeah, I would like to know this answer a2

[Guest codloghorn]

they're equal

[Guest peachy]

These kinds of questions seems to be coming up an awful lot lately. And the answer is always the same - don't pick the university that you think will be easier, pick the university that you want to attend, where you will like the environment and be happer, because that's where YOU will succeed. There are happy and successful students at every school in Canada, just like there are unhappy and unsuccessful students everywhere. It's up to YOU, not to your school.

 

Undergraduate science programs are essentially the same everywhere. If you study hard your grades will be good enough for medical school. There are lots of people with good grades at every school. It's hard, but it's also very doable, at any school.

 

Here are some of the recent threads that have discussed this. In particular, YOU asked EXACTLY THE SAME QUESTION in the "York or McMaster" thread below. I'm not sure why you would do this.

 

Queens or McMaster

Highschool Student going to University

York or McMaster

York University

Western vs Queens

[Guest studentz]

Undergraduate science programs are essentially the same everywhere. If you study hard your grades will be good enough for medical school. There are lots of people with good grades at every school. It's hard, but it's also very doable, at any school.

 

Undergrad science programs are not the same at all universities, saying that they are is crazy. How the hell can you say York or say, Nippissing, has an undergrad science program similar to UBC, McGill, UofT or Alberta? Way more people go to the latter schools to do life sci, the programs are much larger and the quality of students is generally higher. last time I checked, very few schools make students do half of orgo in 1st year like UofT does.

 

If only 15% of the class is going to get A's, you'll probably have a hell of a lot harder time getting in that 15% if you're at a school where you're surrounded by people who are generally smarter than at the other school.

 

Look, in Canada you have to play the "get the highest GPA possible" game so if you know people telling you a specific program is easy, AND you wouldn't mind going there, take it and run.

 

Everyone I know from high school that went to York for science increased their grades from high school. I only know one person that graduated from Mac (biology & psychology). He ended up with a GPA over 11 with, his words, "minimal effort" in everything except his honours thesis, which he described as the most rigorous thing he's ever done (20+ hrs a week in the lab).

[Guest peachy]

I just don't agree. What, you don't think there are a substantial proportion of strong students at York and Nipissing?

 

I don't know anything about Nipissing or other schools, but York gives out about 250 scholarships (by my estimation, and pre-double cohort) each year to high school students who come in to the Faculty of Science with over 90 averages from high school. If you guess that the Faculty has a total of 4000-ish students, so maybe 1000-ish in first year, then that's a pretty good percentage with high grades. There is no reason that these would be weaker students than at any other school.

 

I think that where you're right is that it's probably easier to get a C at a school like York, because there are definitely more of the really bad students (although those generally disappear after first year). But a C is not going to get you into medical school. Once you're in the A/A+ range, there are LOTS of good students trying to get those grades.

 

Also, at least at York, grades aren't curved. There are years where the average in the big first year biology course is a D. If they don't have 15% of the class good enough to get A's, then they just don't give them out.