Guest CHUBBY Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 anyone considering doing a phd as a backup plan after a masters while waiting for medical school? what phd programmes are out there in the medical sciences area and how long do they generally take? chubby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kirsteen Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Hi there chubby, I've committed to a PhD degree as my back-up plan. I'm just finishing up my MSc in Epidemiology and was accepted to complete a PhD in UofT's Dept. of Health Policy, Management and Evaluation (HPME), specifically in the Health Services Outcomes and Evaluation program. HPME is a fantastic department in that they offer a wealth of expertise and resources in this area, they do incredibly sexy research and they seem to be efficiency experts: PhD students are encouraged and supported to complete their degrees in 3-3.5 years. Cheers, Kirsteen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CHUBBY Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 thats awesome... i am currently doing my mhsc in community health in epi and was also condsidering this phd program as a backup plan..if you do decide to do the phd what area will you be doing your thesis work in.. chubby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kirsteen Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Hi there chubby, In what year are you of the MHSc? I assume this is the UofT program? As for the PhD my proposed project is in the field of clinical epi, specifically, economic and epidemiologic outcomes related to the use of certain cardiac devices. Cheers, Kirsteen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CHUBBY Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 hi kirsteen sounds interesting...and 3-3.5 years is really not that bad considering a lot of the phd programs that i've looked into would probably take 4-6 years This is one of the course-based masters...ive just finshed my first year and am doing my practicum this summer...i will be done everything next april. from all your expertise do you think it would be possible to apply to meds while in your phd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kirsteen Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Hi there chubby, Yes, 3-3.5 years is great inre PhD programs. There are other, similar departments that seem to be quite content to have their PhD students hang about for quite a few more years than that, unfortunately. HPME are fantastic in that they don't expect you to do less work in less time; rather, they expect you to be super-efficient for the few years that you're with them. How are you enjoying the MHSc program? How did Biostats II treat you? As for applying to medical school while completing a PhD, technically, you may be able to do it, but I believe most schools (both, graduate and medical) frown upon it unless you're in the final stages of your graduate degree. Cheers, Kirsteen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CHUBBY Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 arrgh...biostats II..don't know how much i learnt but i'm just glad it is over..that exam was brutal...did you have to take that course too... i am really enjoying the program otherwise..some parts more challenging than others but overall its been a very great experience. well i may consider applying to that phd program..hoe competitive is it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kirsteen Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Hi again, Yes, I did have to complete Biostats II. Although the course experience was brutal, Paul Corey's notes have come in very handy these past weeks while sewing up the thesis. As for the HPME PhD programs, from what I've been told, they're very competitive to enter. I can't recall the numbers, but it's something on the order of one out of five or ten who is accepted, depending on the program of interest. Also, unlike the Dept. of Public Health Sciences, HMPE require two sets of interviews as part of the admissions process. One was a panel-style interview and the other a one-on-one interview with one of the HPME heads. Thus far I've only been impressed by HPME and the reception that they've offered me. If a PhD is what you'd like to do then I'd strongly consider doing it within the HPME department. Cheers, Kirsteen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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