mkmkhan Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Actually, be careful how you interpret those numbers. The tuition is only ~$15,000 with a clinical fee of ~$23,000. . Yea... I have a buddy at UBC right now. Apparently you don't even use the clinic in your first year that much...so you're paying 23 K for what again??? Anywho...thats the way it is, and students there are happy so be it.... Ill go back to my anxiety waiting for U of T now ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adversary Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 You're right Mkmkhan. What the faculty decided to do was divide the clinic fee across all 4 years so you are paying the same amount every year. Thus you pay for the clinic before you get to use it much. Do I agree? NO! Why the heck do I have to pay for my future use and what if I decide to walk away? However, we have brought it up with the dean and he has stated that in order to run the clinic, they decided to do it this way. Any changes made will reflect in more money due to the fact they have to borrow the money they budget from the earlier years. Also, Mkmkhan, you're wrong - students aren't happy with it. Most of us still harbor hatred over this set up (yours truly included). However, people are still going through the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adversary Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 As I said at the tours, you have to find out everything you can about the schools that accept you so that you can decide which one fits you most. Some want the cheapest education they can get. Others want the prestige of being at a top school while others just want to stay close to home. Finally, there are those who have no choice because only one school accepted them. I encourage those of you who consider UBC to find out everything you can. I have said in previous posts I will answer any question you have and help you obtain as much info as possible so that when you make your decision, you make one that works for you. You will be my future colleague so I want to help you as one day I may need your help. It won't offend me if you decide to go to another school nor if you choose UBC. Just make sure you choose the right one (which may not be UBC). Mkmkhan, I wish you good luck with U of T. It certainly is a prestigious school with a well-known program. The only small caveat is being in the top percentage for specialization post-dental school will be one hell of a ride. You will face the worst competition since your fellow classmates are just as keen if not more and all will want to specialize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jll Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 how many people at ubc specialize after they are done their degree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adversary Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 I am not aware of any data on the proportion of of each class that goes on to specialize. I do not know if any such data is available elsewhere. However, most people do have it in mind. Keep in mind that there are only 10 spots for the top 10, right? If you want to specialize, you gotta be at the top. This is the case everywhere. Do you think it's harder to be at the top in UBC or U of T or Western, for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkmkhan Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Is it true that this clinic fee plan was drawn along with students??? I'd be surprised if the faculty was the only deciding factor was this new funding plan... From what I heard, students were a part of this decision to get a new clinic and fund it through their tuition fees.... I don't know to what extent this is true.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkmkhan Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Mkmkhan, I wish you good luck with U of T. It certainly is a prestigious school with a well-known program. The only small caveat is being in the top percentage for specialization post-dental school will be one hell of a ride. You will face the worst competition since your fellow classmates are just as keen if not more and all will want to specialize. Thanks Adversary!!! ...I should be finding out before the end of February according to U of T ...I'll let you know... Yea, its gonna be tough ....cream of the crop at u of t and any other professional program for that matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adversary Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 The clinic fee addition was approved by students of years ago. The ever increasing clinic fee for each class that comes in was always approved by the current classes. For example, the increase for the Class of 2011 from the Class of 2010 had the approval of current UBC Dental students (Class of 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010). Traditionally, any increases other than inflation require the approval of the students. To be honest, there's not much to say or do. The faculty did their number crunching and presented the costs to which an increase is necessary. These costs include the clinic staff salary, etc. The reason why costs are continually going up is due to the fact all governments provide very little support to dental programs which is viewed completely segregated from health care despite the fact that we are oral health care providers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adversary Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 One more thing - after having the opportunity to learn in the Nobel Biocare Oral Health Centre and seeing the old clinic, I am happy to have paid to be in the new clinic. It is simply amazing and impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adversary Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Mkmkhan, You might be able to help me with this - isn't the cost of U of T close to $40,000? I had the impression that U of T wasn't that far off from UBC. However, I have no idea where I read this. Do you know the current costs for U of T? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBCfnh Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Hey Adversary, Do you happen to know an estimate of how many waitlist seats UBC has gone through in the past. I've read the percentiles that they go down to, but do you know what they translate into numbers- like say 5 or 10 seats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkmkhan Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Mkmkhan, You might be able to help me with this - isn't the cost of U of T close to $40,000? I had the impression that U of T wasn't that far off from UBC. However, I have no idea where I read this. Do you know the current costs for U of T? $ 26,362.22 - thats the total cost as per the website http://www.utoronto.ca/dentistry/admissions/undergraduatesummary.html Also....isn't vancity expensive in general compared to toronto??? I'd probably be saving 10-15 K at the least ....I live in toronto btw...maybe I'd opt to stay at home and save a few dollars....meh maybe not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adversary Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 UBCfnh, I have heard from this forum that the waitlist moves a lot, but I have no firsthand information on that. I think if you search the forum, one of my classmates that got off the waitlist was like precentile? Not sure. Just look for 2005 posts. However, I would imagine the waitlist movement varies from year to year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBCfnh Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Hey thanks, Ya I've gone through past posts, the percentiles just confuse me though, and I guess it totally depends on the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adversary Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Mkmkhan, Oh nice - so it is equivalent to Western which when I was accepted was ~25,000. It is indeed the clinic fee that boosted UBC right to the top. Yes, from what I heard from my colleagues who came from Toronto, it is significantly more expensive here. However, he did point out that Toronto has mostly older condos and apartments whereas here you are picking brand new ones. It also depends on what you are looking for. The same collaegue lives in a VERY NICE area of downtown. Honestly, cost-wise and reputation, U of T is ideal for you. As I said in my previous posts, find the school that fits you best. It would seem U of T fits you best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adversary Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 UBCfnh, I actually didn't know how the percentiles work until I saw that posting from a few days ago. It's news to me as it is to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adversary Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 In case you guys didn't read the other thread I started, UBC OHC Tours/Q and A Sessions BONUS info, I am offering personal tours or a spend-the-day-with-me-in-lectures tour for those accepted to help you decide whether UBC fits you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shocker_2345 Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 hey im new to the forum but i thought i would join. i think the emails have gone out because i did receive one that granted admission to UBC, i was happy but im kind of in a dilemma and would like some advice i am a UofA student and it seems ubc wants a 9000 deposit before the UofA interviews are even held and i have an interview there as well and i really like both schools, so i would pretty much have to forefit my ubc seat to wait for UofA. any advice on this??? is ubc a lot better than u of a??? thanks shocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adversary Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Congratulations Shocker! You will be a future colleague for sure! Yes, it is a dilemma! I do not know which school is better, but I can tell you this. You can contact me with any questions you may have about UBC Dentistry and when you visit U of A, ask them everything too. That way, as stated in my previous posts, you can determine which school fits you best, factoring what is most important to you as I listed before (location, prestige, technology, etc). NO ONE CAN TELL YOU BECAUSE NO ONE IS GOING TO BOTH SCHOOLS TO TELL YOU WHICH ONE IS BETTER. Remember, both schools have undergone currciulum changes, etc so only current students can tell you how the program is going. I have private messaged you my contact info. Also, see my new thread about visiting UBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3cs25 Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Hey guys, I was wondering what kind of average you have to maintain if you get accepted at ubc. Thanks a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adversary Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 If you received a CONDITIONAL acceptance, I cannot tell you any information. However, if you are accepted without "conditional" attached to it, once you pay the deposit, the spot is yours. When I was applying in 2005, UBC Admissions told me that once my deposit is accepted, there are no conditions attached. I barely studied for my April exams that year and to this day I still have no idea how well I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDog Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 I'm doing my second english course to meet the prereq for UBC right now. But my acceptance email didn't say it was conditional. Does this mean I can drop this english course? I just really hate poetry.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shocker_2345 Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 hey ppl i was wondering what your opinion is on getting an interview score that rank you at the 70th percentile for ubc, would it be risky using this score for interviews at other universities? or would it be good enough eg. for UofA where the interview is only worth 10 percent thanks Shocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chompers Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Hi Shocker, I'm wondering how you know your percentile if you got accepted. When I asked for mine they wouldn't give it to me because I was accepted. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adversary Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Hmm. That's interesting because when I was accepted, I asked for mine before forwarding them to UWO. Who did you talk to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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