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Hey all,

 

Not looking at whether or not these two posts will lead to med school or not, could someone give me some information on how they fit into today's health society? Will they be good for getting into Grad Schools? And what kind of jobs do they offer. Or please send me a website that has some background information on this.

 

Thanks all:)

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sounds like you're from U of T? Microbiology is part of MGY. It is a lot more specific than health and disease. MGY will be better for grad school. The workload is tough, especially in third year. But it is also a smaller program, where most people know each other. As for jobs, an undergrad degree in life sci will offer you crap, regardless of the specialist program you do. I have no idea what you mean by fitting into today's health society. Are the department website no good for background info?

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There is no specific POSt that will "lead to med school" - just study what you think you will enjoy more. I am in the Health and Disease specialist at U of T and the benefit of this program is that it is broad in scope and more multidisciplinary, in that you get the opportunity to take social science/humanities courses along with the basic sciences. If you are interested in grad school, however, I think MGY is a better fit (as the previous poster mentioned).

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I just finished 3rd year MGY program in the microbiology specialist program - I can tell you right now that the workload is intense (i.e. we have a full year lab course 3 hrs per week + 1 hr lecture / week that only counts for 0.5 credits with weekly lab reports, so you need to take 6 courses during 1 semester), but the learning experience is invaluable. That being said, I find myself being able to understand a lot of the experimental background and technique behind things, which is very applicable for summer research jobs or potentially grad school.

 

I really think it's up to you though. I believe with health and disease, you can still take those interesting mgy courses i.e. 377, 378, and possibly imm 334 (if you're interested in that stuff) without having to suffer through the additional workload put on by the 376 lab course (it's a very worthwhile lab course, but extremely time consuming) or mgy311. If you're really interested in research and stuff, I say go for MGY microbiology specialist program. If not, go for health and disease.

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yeah, i'm just finishing up a HMB: Genes Genetics and Biotech degree, and having talked to a lot of the people in IMM/BCH (but not MGY though...) i've heard a lot of them repeatedly say that marks wise, it is quite brutal. Having said that, i would recommend you choose whatever interests you. I think a lot of the people who end up in BIG (biochem, immuno, mgy) do so without really knowing what the program is all about. the programs have the "BIG" reputation and the students who get into them have the "big" marks... they think it's a perfect fit: only problem is they are given a lot to do, and don't necessarily love it. I found the flexibility of the HMB specialists to be very helpful. I realized at the end of second year and towards the middle of third year that i was really into immunology, and i've since taken a lot of imm-related credits, which hmb allows you the flexibility to do. It becomes more your choice, instead of having it stuffed down your throat whether you like it or not. Research wise, i didn't have trouble getting into probably one of the biggest labs in canada. I'm most certain that my marks helped get me there, and from what i've heard from virtually everyone in the BIG programs, you probably won't have stellar marks (but i know a few people who got into meds through BIG programs). Moral of the rant: do what you like, you'll be motivated to succeed, everything will seem easier because you WANT to do it, and it doesn't matter if you end up in medicine or research or somewhere else, as long as you enjoy what you're doing, you've succeeded.

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ya I would like to add; there's only a few courses in the mgy program that I'm doing this year that I actually enjoy : namely imm335, 377, 378 since those are like the "really cool micro/imm courses." I wasn't a huge fan of 311 - molecular biology, but I had to take it anyway since it was a program requirement... Hopefully the final exam turns out ok (lol). Mark wise; it's challenging. First year I basically totally aced, second year - I didn't work as hard, marks reflected slightly but they were still pretty much as good as 1st yr; this year; I'm working about 5x harder than 1st/2nd year and getting lower marks! I mean my marks are still very good and good enough for med school, but I do know some friends who were really keen on med school who got completely messed over in their gpa from the MGY courses.

 

I guess it's what you want out of it

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ya I would like to add; there's only a few courses in the mgy program that I'm doing this year that I actually enjoy : namely imm335, 377, 378 since those are like the "really cool micro/imm courses." I wasn't a huge fan of 311 - molecular biology, but I had to take it anyway since it was a program requirement... Hopefully the final exam turns out ok (lol). Mark wise; it's challenging. First year I basically totally aced, second year - I didn't work as hard, marks reflected slightly but they were still pretty much as good as 1st yr; this year; I'm working about 5x harder than 1st/2nd year and getting lower marks! I mean my marks are still very good and good enough for med school, but I do know some friends who were really keen on med school who got completely messed over in their gpa from the MGY courses.

 

I guess it's what you want out of it

 

Don't worry, you'll have it easier next year, alot easier. (Though I'm not sure if it's worth it since third year marks count more than fourth year for med schools) Super easy half year lab course and you get to laugh at the bch specialists with their full day labs and crazy lab reports.

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