tiger15lily Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Did anyone else get a lower WS score that what you expected? I was surprised with my N as it is what knocks me out of running for Queens and UWO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a41 Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Yep. I got N too. Really sucks with my 12/12/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puggy Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 I got N too! I expected an S or similar! For the PR practice essays I kept getting 4's and 4.5! Is it just me or everyone I check with that wrote on Sept the 15th got N (3 other ppl I know got N's) ???? This is really upsetting cause I applied only for Queens and now I'm disqualified. How did the other earlier CBT testers do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger15lily Posted October 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Let's hope that maybe all of these lower WS scores will lower the application pool requirement. Does anyone have good/bad stories of getting the WS rescored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puggy Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 All I know is that it will take at least 4 months and by that time Queens and UWO won't accept the new scores so you'll have to apply with them for the next cycle. So I'll just leave these ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roycer Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 I thought I wrote a crap essay and expected an N or O, but was given a Q. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a41 Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 There is an element of subjectivity to grading writing samples. Probably one of the reasons that WS is not given much consideration in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puggy Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 How is the WS scored for the CBT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdkram Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 it's scored independently by a computer (dunno how that works ) and by a person, and if the person and the computer don't agree with each other, a third person marks the essay. Yeah, I agree that WS is very subjective, sux to see that Canadian schools require it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a41 Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 it's scored independently by a computer (dunno how that works ) and by a person, and if the person and the computer don't agree with each other, a third person marks the essay. Yeah, I agree that WS is very subjective, sux to see that Canadian schools require it My girlfriend was telling me it picks up on certain words or something like that. This is how it is done for the GMAT, and it is news to me that it is done this way for the MCAT now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puggy Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 That's really weird! I suspect I got an X on one of them (that's the only thing that would explain my scores). How the hell would the computer decide that? and if the computer doesn't...would it mean that just one person decies on how good my subjects are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochi1543 Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Scored by a computer? That's the first time I've heard that...The Kaplan book (a 2003, granted) says it's 2 different readers, and if the scores are not the same, then a 3rd person grades it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdkram Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 I got the info from a tpr tutor. He told me that when the mcat changed into CBT the computer was responsible for marking the WS substituting one person. The second person still marks the essay too and the final score is determined by averaging the two. If there are large discrepancies than the essay is being read by a 2nd person. Then again...maybe the tpr tutor got mixed up from GMAT and MCAT and misinformed me I'm sure that Jochi is right about the mcat in trad format tho, I also knew that the mcat was scored by 2 individual ppl in trad formats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuantum Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 i've heard for the CBT, it is scored by a computer and a marker and there is also a third if they differ by a certain amount. what is used to be was 2 human markers and if they differed by a certain amount, a third would come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avenir001 Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 oui, je suis tres pleased to confirm what kuantum has said...i think it was on the aamc website that i read about the ws being scored by a human and a computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vallinar Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 how TF does a computer mark an essay lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puggy Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 I don't know...this just sound ridiculous to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdkram Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 wow technology is so advanced these days I think more like they got more lazy and relied on a less accurate substitute than having a supercomputer good enough to replace the markers there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwells Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 It makes you wonder why it takes a full month to mark the exams. Multiple choice -> computer grades, essay -> computer grades and 1 person reads the essay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tan008 Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 It makes you wonder why it takes a full month to mark the exams. Multiple choice -> computer grades, essay -> computer grades and 1 person reads the essay... A true mystery to many Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah! Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 I think that the computer corrects the "grammatical" ( spell check, sentence structure - like in Word) aspect of your essay... and the human grader corrects the content of the essay. The two are pooled together to give you your final score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbrugby Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 I think that the computer corrects the "grammatical" ( spell check, sentence structure - like in Word) aspect of your essay... and the human grader corrects the content of the essay. The two are pooled together to give you your final score. This is what the TPR manual said if I recall correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puggy Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 so basically....if just one person doesn't like ur subject u're screwed??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger15lily Posted October 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 I wonder how many points the computer deducts for non USA english? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tan008 Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 I was writing in the States and I definitely used US spelling (just in case). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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