Jakbeh Quik Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Lol... how did the interview process miss weeding out this gem? GPA.. check... MCAT... check... residency.. check I know! I'll flush it down the drain! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNL8QEMfiuI http://www1.arguscourier.com/article/20080428/NEWS02/264270395 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THX Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 wow what school did this guy attend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakbeh Quik Posted May 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 "Dr. Wolin is a board-certified hematologist and oncologist, and member of the American Society of Hematology and Member American Society of Clinical Oncology. He received his MD from the State University of New York at Buffalo Medical School and was an Assistant Professor of Medicine UCLA School Of Medicine." from http://ahrp.blogspot.com/2006/11/nbc-catches-sexual-predator-v-p.html so for people waitlisted (like me)... it could be worse... at least you're not this guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Law Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 LOL jakbeh Wow, I can't believe that. He drove 40 minutes to San Francisco to "do nothing." That's so disturbing man... To play devil's advocate though, I'm a bit apprehensive that when he asked to have his lawyer present, the cop still continued to ask him questions after that. The officer did ask him if he was waiving his right to have an attorney present, but I feel they should have stopped questioning and allowed him to have his attorney come (since obviously, he was freaking out). At the same time, we're dealing with an issue that is so serious and difficult to monitor. Children are abused by these people and the sick perverts are often not caught. Clearly, in this situation, there was entrapment. The question is - is it warranted? Would he have done this if they didn't try to get him to do it? Is this the only real way to stop the abuse of children, and catch these dangerous offenders? It would be so easy to worry about the rights of an individual, but when it comes to these types of cases - it is so hard to show any sympathy for these people. I personally feel better knowing that these people are getting caught, then out there "lurking" (for lack of a better term). Edit: Just read the article, and noticed that the court ruled that he wasn't entrapped. Guess then the actions are legal, which is a good thing. Man, he calls his wife - "honey, I'm in trouble" haha... way to state the obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medwannabe08 Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 ouch. that was just painful to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdDave Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Questions like "how did he get passed the screening?' or "what school did he go to?" are so immature. I wasn't aware that pedophilia makes you do worse on interviews or that pedophiles are dumber and are only accepted to crappy schools. Seriously what difference does it make what school he attended to? For all I know he could be a good doc, it's just that he happens to have a serious sexual problem. By the way I think the ethics of this show are questionable. Tempting people to commit crime just to catch them? Somethings wrong here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3.14159265... Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 I don't see the relationship between being a doctor and not being a pedo. They seem to be completely unrelated, unless you want to imply that pedos are somehow socially inept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Law Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 By the way I think the ethics of this show are questionable. Tempting people to commit crime just to catch them? Somethings wrong here... I definitely agree with you there, but these sting operations uncover a lot of pedophiles and if you only read what he was writing to what he believed was a thirteen year old girl. When you examine the facts, it is clear this man has a serious problem - imagine he was still able to be on the internet, talking to young girls in that way... It's really disturbing. I think the show helps highlight the importance of internet safety, and at the same time, is helping uncover these criminals. When it was fought in court that they were "tempting" him (as this is illegal), the court ruled that was not the case. I'm pretty sure it was him who decided to set up the meeting and everything - yes, painful to watch - but, at the same time, we have to be responsible for our actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medwannabe08 Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 By the way I think the ethics of this show are questionable. Tempting people to commit crime just to catch them? Somethings wrong here... Exactly. Not defending this individual, but the tactics used appear to be entrapment to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerroger Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Apparently not... Trial date set in Wolin case A fall trial date has been set for a Piedmont oncologist arrested during a sexual predator sting in 2006. Maurice Wolin will go to trial Sept. 5, Sonoma County Superior Court Judge Frank Passalacqua decided on April 25, a court clerk said. Wolin, 49, was among 28 men arrested by Petaluma police in August 2006 in a sting filmed for NBC's "Dateline: To Catch a Predator." He has pleaded not guilty to a felony charge of attempted lewd and lascivious acts with a child under age 14. Wolin's appeal to dismiss the case was denied last week by a state appeal court. His attorney, Blair Berk, had argued Wolin was a victim of entrapment and was illegally badgered into driving to the Petaluma house where the sting occurred. - Curtosy of the Contra Costa Times (May 1 2008) I feel for his wife and kids... Apparently his wife (probably ex-wife) is a pediatrician... That must be hard with all her colleagues etc. knowing about her perverted husband... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMmd Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 why does everybody think doc are superbeings ... they are regular ppl with psychological problems like every other Joe out there. Altho the part where he spills the juice is priceless!!! as a doc he should know how to pour drinks lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviathan Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 as a doc he should know how to pour drinks lol Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clive Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Altho the part where he spills the juice is priceless!!! as a doc he should know how to pour drinks lol he was probably too excited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Law Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 lol, at levi's reaction... ahmed, I don't think it's that people think doctors are superbeings... so much as they're caring for really vulnerable populations (including children), so it's just a doubly shocking when you hear about something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ploughboy Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Exactly. Not defending this individual, but the tactics used appear to be entrapment to me. Child molestation = creepy Vigilante justice used to sell advertising on network TV = only slightly less creepy. For fun, google "Louis Conradt Jr". Yes, his actions made him look guilty as sin but he was convicted by NBC, not by a court of law. For a fairly damning, but somewhat lengthy, analysis of the comingling of entertainment and law enforcement in that case, see http://www.esquire.com/features/predator0907 For even more about the joys of vigilantism, google "Yvette Cloete " Gotta go, a new episode of "The Running Man" is on TV... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skvangs Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 he was really stupid for doing that. but you know, I am sure you guys will pounce on me for saying this, but I kinda felt sorry for him. He was very shaken. He was so scared it wasn't even funny. I think he had a weakness that he needs to fix, go to counselling or something, but after all that education time and expenditure to go and do something like that is truly appaling. I hope the guy will get counselling, and i am pretty sure based on his reaction, he will not do anything that dumb again. imagine how his daughters feel! they are prolly 13 themselves. oh man! what an idiot!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 As sick as this is, I think he would be able to argue that the police used entrapment against him. I mean, they literally used a decoy to try and pull him into the house. I dunno, it's a touchy subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satsuma Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 he was really stupid for doing that. but you know, I am sure you guys will pounce on me for saying this, but I kinda felt sorry for him. He was very shaken. He was so scared it wasn't even funny. I think he had a weakness that he needs to fix, go to counselling or something, but after all that education time and expenditure to go and do something like that is truly appaling. I hope the guy will get counselling, and i am pretty sure based on his reaction, he will not do anything that dumb again. imagine how his daughters feel! they are prolly 13 themselves. oh man! what an idiot!!! Not pouncing on you here...but I defnitely don`t feel sorry for him. Does he need counselling? Yes. He also needs to take ownership of his choices. I know he says he hasn`t ever done anything like that before and he wasn`t going to "do anything" he was just curious. BUT, I find it unlikely and hard to believe. You don`t just wake up one day and find yourself driving however long to meet up with some 13 year old girl. It's a process to get to that point. Abusing kids isn`t just a "weakness". He was really scared, and dumb, and I can understand feeling bad for everything he stands to lose. But it was HIS choice and stupidity. If the person on the tape wasn`t a doctor/professional/white collar guy, I wonder if feelings of sympathy would be the same. To victims of child abuse, the status of the abuser doesn`t really take away the harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skvangs Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Not pouncing on you here...but I defnitely don`t feel sorry for him. Does he need counselling? Yes. He also needs to take ownership of his choices. I know he says he hasn`t ever done anything like that before and he wasn`t going to "do anything" he was just curious. BUT, I find it unlikely and hard to believe. You don`t just wake up one day and find yourself driving however long to meet up with some 13 year old girl. It's a process to get to that point. Abusing kids isn`t just a "weakness". He was really scared, and dumb, and I can understand feeling bad for everything he stands to lose. But it was HIS choice and stupidity. If the person on the tape wasn`t a doctor/professional/white collar guy, I wonder if feelings of sympathy would be the same. To victims of child abuse, the status of the abuser doesn`t really take away the harm. Yea, I know you are definitely correct, but I just feel a little bit of pity for the guy. It was his decision, that is true. To answer your last statement, I would not feel the same amount of pity for someone who is not a professional. I agree that he should get punished to the fullest extent of the law, but I just feel that you know his life is now wasted. well yea... venting done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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