Freedom Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 I did a bit of investigating and have found the possible changes for next year. Breakdown for all applicants except aboriginal category MCAT 40% AGPA 15% PAS 45% Minimum AGPA is now 3.30 MCAT breakdown is now Biological Sciences 30% Verbal Reasoning 30% Writing Sample 20% Physical Sciences 20% No longer a special applicant category. Aboriginal category breakdown is the same. source: http://www.umanitoba.ca/admin/governance/media/senagendamay2008.pdf pages 226 to 233 (or 239 to 248 depending how you look at it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnipegguy Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Sweet! I got an M in the WS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogopogo Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Wow, did you just make my day! Thank you a million times over for this little gem (assuming it becomes holy writ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylem29 Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Do you guys think they will ever design a more elaborate scoring system that takes into account a personal statement/essay questions, LORs, and ECs? Because this year, the only non-academic criteria they used was the MMI. Mind you, I like their system a lot - it does account for those who didn't have the opportunity to build up a good EC portfolio due to personal circumstances and when you get down to it - the biggest chunk of what schools look for anyway are your academic abilities and non-academic abilities, which can all be derived from the MMI anyway I guess. The PS, LORs, and ECs list seem like such a formality - especially the PS and LORs. Only problem is that if you have an off-day during the MMI, you're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith_015 Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 What I dislike is that the format is potentially going to be different 3 times over, for the 07-09 accepting years. How are re-applicants utimately going to build off of the previous year's flaws if things change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 do the best you can all the time. interview is still interview, regardless of what it's worth. changing the percentage of MCAT, GPA etc doesn't really matter, do the best you can all the time, and see what happens. moose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith_015 Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 do the best you can all the time. interview is still interview, regardless of what it's worth. changing the percentage of MCAT, GPA etc doesn't really matter, do the best you can all the time, and see what happens. moose Two people who "do their best" and get similar scores on the PAS will still utimately be differentiated by the MCAT and GPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler582 Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Do you guys think they will ever design a more elaborate scoring system that takes into account a personal statement/essay questions, LORs, and ECs? They better. I was actually a bit angry that the LOR's ended up being basically pointless. From what they were saying at the interview orientation session it seems like they hardly even read them. Then again, if they just eliminate those other aspects of the PAS there would be no need to be angry . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roycer Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 They better. I was actually a bit angry that the LOR's ended up being basically pointless. From what they were saying at the interview orientation session it seems like they hardly even read them. Then again, if they just eliminate those other aspects of the PAS there would be no need to be angry . I was also surprised to hear from Beth at the orientation session that the LOR's were only going to be used as a 'reference' if there was something unusual about a person's application. I guess for completeness sake they need all of everyone's info. I have a feeling though there will be changes to the application criteria for next year, and that the MMI will be implemented again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutler Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 can i ask what the current breakdown is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roycer Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 50% MCAT / 10% AGPA / 40% Personal Assessment Score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Posted June 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Looks like the changes are gonna happen, and it's most likely what I originally posted. # Posting of the 2009 - 2010 Applicant Information Bulletin has been delayed. # Significant changes to the current Bulletin have been approved. # Please continue to monitor this webpage for the update. http://www.umanitoba.ca/faculties/medicine/admissions/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastriss Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 I thought they were selecting applicants who are OOP this year based on the activities list you submitted? Or were they rejecting people who had High gpa's and mcats without rhyme or reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 I did a bit of investigating and have found the possible changes for next year. Breakdown for all applicants except aboriginal category MCAT 40% AGPA 15% PAS 45% Minimum AGPA is now 3.30 MCAT breakdown is now Biological Sciences 30% Verbal Reasoning 30% Writing Sample 20% Physical Sciences 20% No longer a special applicant category. Aboriginal category breakdown is the same. source: http://www.umanitoba.ca/admin/governance/media/senagendamay2008.pdf pages 226 to 233 (or 239 to 248 depending how you look at it) Is this the post-interview breakdown? What does PAS stand for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Posted June 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 Changes are happening, and these are most likely what those changes are. So acceptances are based on this (post-interview breakdown). PAS = Personal Assessment Score. Basically, the interview, reference letters, and whatever information you give them/they ask for (awards, job experience, rural, MSc, volunteering, blah blah blah). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylem29 Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Changes are happening, and these are most likely what those changes are. So acceptances are based on this (post-interview breakdown). PAS = Personal Assessment Score. Basically, the interview, reference letters, and whatever information you give them/they ask for (awards, job experience, rural, MSc, volunteering, blah blah blah). That's what one would expect, but for some reason, this year - the PAS was the MMI score and that's it. The letters were a formality and I guess the ECs etc were used for the interview invites...I dunno, any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Posted June 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 That's what one would expect, but for some reason, this year - the PAS was the MMI score and that's it. The letters were a formality and I guess the ECs etc were used for the interview invites...I dunno, any thoughts? They probably didnt have an effective/fair method prepared to able to score those extra materials just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylem29 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 I just got back my feedback and there will be other components added to the PAS next year (probably ECs, an essay perhaps, LORs, etc). Anyway, I suck! My PAS was in the last quintile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylem29 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 I got my feedback too. I wish they put comments on mine Yea, I didn't get any comments either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Posted July 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 The changes did happen! I did a bit of investigating and have found the possible changes for next year. Breakdown for all applicants except aboriginal category MCAT 40% AGPA 15% PAS 45% Minimum AGPA is now 3.30 MCAT breakdown is now Biological Sciences 30% Verbal Reasoning 30% Writing Sample 20% Physical Sciences 20% No longer a special applicant category. Aboriginal category breakdown is the same. source: http://www.umanitoba.ca/admin/governance/media/senagendamay2008.pdf pages 226 to 233 (or 239 to 248 depending how you look at it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinnamonQueen Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Does anybody have any insight as to why they have eliminated the special applicant category? I was really banking on being in that application pool as my AGPA is rather low (3.84/4.5) and I've been working in the healthcare field for almost 10 years. Now I don't think I really have much of a chance in the regular pool. Too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchepsout Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Why do you say you have no chance? GPA counts for only 15% and your GPA is still quiet high. Do you think it influences your application that much? Also, check the applicant manual, I think it says that if you have work experience in the healthcare field, it will boost your PAS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinnamonQueen Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Sorry...I should have also mentioned that I'm an OOP applicant and my MCAT operative score is only 9.3 (I'm rewriting in August and hope to bring it up quite a bit.) My concern is that I recall reading somewhere that for OOP applicants, they only consider the AGPA and MCAT score for determining who is invited to interview and that the average of those accepted from the OOP pool was a AGPA of 4.18 and an MCAT score of 11.87 (compared to 3.83 and 8.92 for the special applicant pool). So, even though the AGPA only accounts for 15%, the MCAT counts for 40% and thus I don't think I'm competitive enough to get an interview as an OOP (even if my PAS is very strong). I'm still planning to apply, however, but I don't like my chances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchepsout Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Ah, ok. You scared me because I'm IP but my GPA is lower than yours I didn't know the special category would have applied to OOP. Good luck with your MCAT in August! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinnamonQueen Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 I'm not 100% that the special applicant pool included OOP either, but in the stats they provided for the class of 2011, it included a 'Special Applicant, OOP' pool so I was pretty excited...albeit briefly!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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