cricket Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 A little birdie told me that Queen's internal medicine residency program has recently had some problems with accreditation. Any verification to this? I've also heard that a few years ago Queen's internal med program has also had a run in with such problems. Can someone comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quintessence Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 A little birdie told me that Queen's internal medicine residency program has recently had some problems with accreditation. Any verification to this? I've also heard that a few years ago Queen's internal med program has also had a run in with such problems. Can someone comment? I can say with 110% certainty that neither of these claims are true. Med Schools in Ontario will never reach the point where they are facing serious accreditation problems - the Ministry of Health resolves all issues (funding or otherwise) by the "warning letter" stage at the latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerd Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Queen's IM program was under "intention to withdrawal accreditation" a couple of years ago. I think the biggest issue was the poor service-to-education ratio. Apparently they've made a lot of changes to the program since then, and the program was reviewed recently, and is now fully accredited again. The program director was quite frank during the carms interviews that there's still work to be done, but it looks like at least they're going in the right direction. As for Western, they're under provisional approval, or "probation" as we usually call it. This is not nearly as bad as intention to withdraw, and a lot of programs go on probation once in a while. From what the program director was telling us, the reason for this was mainly due to the predominance of subspecialists instead of general internists running the CTU, and some other minor stuff that I can't remember now. A good point that somebody brought up before is that being on probation might not be such a bad thing, since it gets the programs motivated to make changes for the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider2004 Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 As the former chief resident of internal medicine at Queen's (during the program changes) I would agree with gerd. The program actually wasn't all that bad before and while it's better now, I think programs across the country are plagued by being too large. The expansion of the medical schools has resulted in the dilution of disease exposures across the country. I'd like to say that with the changes to the Queen's program that we produce better residents but the further I go into my training, I realize that there is likely more nature than nurture in medical training. I've seen no residency program that could turn a mediocre intern to a superstar attending physician. If you are thinking of internal medicine, then i would suggest a program that provides a lot of procedural opportunities (which means rural experience) as well as solid critical care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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