ad19 Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 These are some pretty insane stats. Really hope this year is different. http://www.schulich.uwo.ca/dentistry/docs/Statistics_Class2012.htm Applicant Pool: 621 Gender: Female/Male: 336/285 Class Size: 53 Including Internationals: 1 Gender: Females/Males: 26/27 Qualifications of Admitted Applicants: Class average based on best 2 years prior to admission (%): 88.51 Dental Aptitude Test: Reading – minimum required for interview: 18/30 Academic Average sectional score used in final offer decision (avg. of class): 20/30 Interview: Number Interviewed: 273 Minimum % Required to be Interviewed – based on best 2 years prior to app. deadline: 83.00 Number of Admitted Applicants with Degrees: 39 – HBSc / Honours equivalent 4 Yr. Degrees 5 – MSc 1 - PhD Demographics: Age: Range : 42-19 Median: 26 Average: 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnie Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 There's something wrong with UWOs interview invitation methods. 237 invites out of 621 applicants. Almost 40%. That kind of figure is unheard of for Medical school invites. A quick look at McMaster says about 4000 students apply, about 550 are invited for interview. 550/4000 = ~14%. Ouch. The problem is UWO doesn't cap their invite at a certain number. Instead, when someone who is invited requests a score transfer from another interview, UWO treats this as a new vacancy in the interview roster, and ADD more students. Silliness. My point is, when 40% of students get an interview, it downplays the significance of overcoming this hurdle. You may have separated yourself from the pack, but not as much as a Med school interview would. Also, I think that DAT should be weighed more than it currently is. -Fin- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In_Valid Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 wow you dentists are old! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avenir001 Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 you doctors are obviously mature beyond your years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contach Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 There's something wrong with UWOs interview invitation methods. 237 invites out of 621 applicants. Almost 40%. That kind of figure is unheard of for Medical school invites. A quick look at McMaster says about 4000 students apply, about 550 are invited for interview. 550/4000 = ~14%. Ouch. The problem is UWO doesn't cap their invite at a certain number. Instead, when someone who is invited requests a score transfer from another interview, UWO treats this as a new vacancy in the interview roster, and ADD more students. Silliness. My point is, when 40% of students get an interview, it downplays the significance of overcoming this hurdle. You may have separated yourself from the pack, but not as much as a Med school interview would. Also, I think that DAT should be weighed more than it currently is. -Fin- I don't think their goal for the interview process is to try and make Dental School look like it's hard to get into. This is secondary to the point that they are trying to accept the most qualified applicants. Nothing is wrong with their methods. UWO is doing what is in UWO's best interest. They need not consider the interests of a pre-dent who has an pre-med inferiority complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylem29 Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 I don't think their goal for the interview process is to try and make Dental School look like it's hard to get into. This is secondary to the point that they are trying to accept the most qualified applicants. Nothing is wrong with their methods. UWO is doing what is in UWO's best interest. They need not consider the interests of a pre-dent who has an pre-med inferiority complex. Arine's in dental school man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avenir001 Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 contach just has to disagree with everyone ...tho it would be nice if he first got his facts straight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visceral Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 There's something wrong with UWOs interview invitation methods. 237 invites out of 621 applicants. Almost 40%. That kind of figure is unheard of for Medical school invites. A quick look at McMaster says about 4000 students apply, about 550 are invited for interview. 550/4000 = ~14%. Ouch. The problem is UWO doesn't cap their invite at a certain number. Instead, when someone who is invited requests a score transfer from another interview, UWO treats this as a new vacancy in the interview roster, and ADD more students. Silliness. My point is, when 40% of students get an interview, it downplays the significance of overcoming this hurdle. You may have separated yourself from the pack, but not as much as a Med school interview would. Also, I think that DAT should be weighed more than it currently is. -Fin- I'm not too sure what the big deal is - either way the acceptance rate is below 10% which is rather competitive. And using Mac as an example isn't too good since we all know that school gets a ridiculous amount of applications for a variety of reasons. I personally think it's great to interview more students. While interviews are not perfect, they are in my opinion the best predictor of potential success. I don't care whether someone has a 82% average of a 94% average, I want someone who can communicate well with others and is friendly. I think interviews should incorporate some non standardized component and account for more value during admissions consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contach Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 contach just has to disagree with everyone ...tho it would be nice if he first got his facts straight fine. a dent student with medical student inferiority complex. same idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnie Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 I'm not too sure what the big deal is - either way the acceptance rate is below 10% which is rather competitive. And using Mac as an example isn't too good since we all know that school gets a ridiculous amount of applications for a variety of reasons. I personally think it's great to interview more students. While interviews are not perfect, they are in my opinion the best predictor of potential success. I don't care whether someone has a 82% average of a 94% average, I want someone who can communicate well with others and is friendly. I think interviews should incorporate some non standardized component and account for more value during admissions consideration. You know, I hadn't really considered that. I too feel that interviews are the best way to evaluate a student, and agree entirely that it should be given more consideration than the current 25%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visceral Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 For sure. I also think UWO had so many more "interviews" from score transfers since UofT released their acceptances so early this year. Interesting thing though, I thought that since so many people interview that perhaps the overall average might decrease from the prior year since you get more students with slightly lower averages having stellar interviews and getting an acceptance. However, the average went up to 88.xx % from the prior year's 84.xx %. And that 84.xx % was from the double cohort. So hard to explain these things except that I guess things are just getting more and more competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraises Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 wow yeah 88.51% ... so anyone know how many uwo waitlisted spots were eventually accepted in the end? less than 10ish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnie Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 For sure. I also think UWO had so many more "interviews" from score transfers since UofT released their acceptances so early this year. Interesting thing though, I thought that since so many people interview that perhaps the overall average might decrease from the prior year since you get more students with slightly lower averages having stellar interviews and getting an acceptance. However, the average went up to 88.xx % from the prior year's 84.xx %. And that 84.xx % was from the double cohort. So hard to explain these things except that I guess things are just getting more and more competitive. This is definitely true. I think many people on (and off) this forum were accepted to UofT before their UWO interview and just sent in scores rather than making the trip. I think that while the average GPA went up, they used a lower cut-off for the DAT. ie) started inviting people who had been previously denied an interview because they didn't make the initial cut-off. So they gave a little here, took away a little there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geetar2112 Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Do they not look at the PAT anymore? They don't mention the scores in the stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDS28 Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 UWO no longer takes the PAT or carving sections into consideration. UofT no longer looks at carving, however, base the interview on the PAT. Best Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylem29 Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Can someone clarify the transferring of interview scores bit? So if someone is invited to interview at 3 different schools who uses the same CDA interview format, they just have to go to one and the other two will use the same score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avenir001 Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 ya i think the choice is urs...if u're happy with ur performance at one school, u can choose to transfer ur score to the other schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avenir001 Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 it's good news for me that uwo no longer considers carving & PAT..the bad news is i just started doing bio/chem/reading the other day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eng_dude786 Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 does UWO accept the february (2009) sitting for the DAT for 2009 entry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coreascott Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 UWO no longer takes the PAT or carving sections into consideration. UofT no longer looks at carving, however, base the interview on the PAT. Best Regards Hm.... i guess this will mean surge of applicants to UWO and UT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylem29 Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 ya i think the choice is urs...if u're happy with ur performance at one school, u can choose to transfer ur score to the other schools. Hmm...are you informed of your score so that you can transfer or is it based on gut feeling? This sure makes the process a little cheaper - save money from having to fly all over the country! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraises Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 UWO no longer takes the PAT or carving sections into consideration. UofT no longer looks at carving, however, base the interview on the PAT. Best Regards Hey guys, I actually attended a free Princeton Review DAT session today and they said that UofT no longer looks at RC and carving, but UWO looks at everything... I asked them if that was really true, and they said yes UWO does look at everything (carving, PAT, sciences, RC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supafield Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Hey guys, I actually attended a free Princeton Review DAT session today and they said that UofT no longer looks at RC and carving, but UWO looks at everything... I asked them if that was really true, and they said yes UWO does look at everything (carving, PAT, sciences, RC) Princeton was wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlitto Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Princeton is full of ****. They're trying to make more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syr2008 Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 I have two questions and it would be great if someone can answer me. So for UWO, 1-RC is only for cutoff and AA accounts for 15% ??? Or both RC and AA accounts for 15% ??? 2-Is it GPA or % for UWO ? Because these two things can really be very different. For example 4.0 on GPA scale is 90-100. By the way I have been to UWO website, and things still not clear. Thanks in advance for you fellows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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