war485 Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Hey guys. What do you think about asking the same reference person for multiple reference letters? i.e. ask the same person for 2 different reference letters? Is this "awkward" or should this be ok? Maybe I'm overthinking this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lactic Folly Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 What do you mean exactly - letters supporting different goals (med school and grad school) or letters for different medical schools? If they're supportive once, they should not have a problem being supportive again, as long as they felt appreciated by you, and you let them know what became of your application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayven Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 If you're a girl.. wear a low-cut top and semi-short skirt when you go in to ask.. presuming that the referee is a guy. But like everyone else has said before, if they're really supportive of you then they'll understand. Especially if it's someone who usually gets asked to be a referee anyways (ie volunteer coordinators). Just make the process easy by providing them everything (ie stamped envelopes, forms, maybe what you'd want them to say... lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 If you're a girl.. wear a low-cut top and semi-short skirt when you go in to ask.. presuming that the referee is a guy. And if you are a guy, wear a kilt???? The sexual objectification of us is sick as it is dangerous of us to ecourage and promote this kind of thinking or behavour. When I am going to be alone with someone of the opposite sex and I think the possibility may exist for an uncomfortable situation, men be warned, my minicorder, with audi and video is on, and your career as student or prof is over should you do or say anything inappropriate, and if you made the slightest touch for sexual purposes, you will be brought up on criminal charges. Rayven has admitted or implied that he is 15, so take his advice at your own risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayven Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 And if you are a guy, wear a kilt???? The sexual objectification of us is sick as it is dangerous of us to ecourage and promote this kind of thinking or behavour. When I am going to be alone with someone of the opposite sex and I think the possibility may exist for an uncomfortable situation, men be warned, my minicorder, with audi and video is on, and your career as student or prof is over should you do or say anything inappropriate, and if you made the slightest touch for sexual purposes, you will be brought up on criminal charges. Rayven has admitted or implied that he is 15, so take his advice at your own risk. I wouldn't worry too much about that, future_doc. Things like this usually only happen to cute girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnussey Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 And if you are a guy, wear a kilt???? The sexual objectification of us is sick as it is dangerous of us to ecourage and promote this kind of thinking or behavour. When I am going to be alone with someone of the opposite sex and I think the possibility may exist for an uncomfortable situation, men be warned, my minicorder, with audi and video is on, and your career as student or prof is over should you do or say anything inappropriate, and if you made the slightest touch for sexual purposes, you will be brought up on criminal charges. Rayven has admitted or implied that he is 15, so take his advice at your own risk. It was a joke--the majority of the female population use the same joke. And kilts are hot. I've asked my referees to "copy & paste" their letters for both sets (MUN and OMSAS). They won't have to do a whole lot of extra work to do this and if they've agreed to write you a reference, they should not mind at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dampy Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 When I am going to be alone with someone of the opposite sex and I think the possibility may exist for an uncomfortable situation, men be warned, my minicorder, with audi and video is on, and your career as student or prof is over should you do or say anything inappropriate, and if you made the slightest touch for sexual purposes, you will be brought up on criminal charges. If I'm correct in reading this, you bring a camcorder whenever your in the room with someone of the opposite sex? You realize what country your in right now, that seems like some pretty extreme paranoia. Also just a forwarding if inappropriate words/actions bother you enough to bring a camera everywhere you go, you may want to re-consider your career choice. As any female health care professional (and some male) will tell you, dealing with the public you're going to have random people hitting on you regularly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avenir001 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 I wouldn't worry too much about that, future_doc. Things like this usually only happen to cute girls. OH SNAPPP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnussey Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 If I'm correct in reading this, you bring a camcorder whenever your in the room with someone of the opposite sex? You realize what country your in right now, that seems like some pretty extreme paranoia. Also just a forwarding if inappropriate words/actions bother you enough to bring a camera everywhere you go, you may want to re-consider your career choice. As any female health care professional (and some male) will tell you, dealing with the public you're going to have random people hitting on you regularly.... And to be "inclusive", it happens to men too. You have to learn to deal with it--doesn't mean that the behaviour is okay or should be downplayed, but keeping your composure and going through the "proper channels" when needed is a bit better than carrying around a recording device--which, may land you in jail for invasion of privacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avenir001 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 well for the record, *I* for one love it when 90-yr-olds at the nursing home hit on me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnussey Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 well for the record, *I* for one love it when 90-yr-olds at the nursing home hit on me Lol. I usually get hit on by 15-year-olds or 30-year-olds...not sure what age that makes me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war485 Posted August 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 lol, this quickly got out of hand... It's for med school, not for grad school. Not like this matters, but I am a male, not a female. I thought it would be a little awkward asking for multiple reference letters from the same person, that's all. I just wasn't sure about it, since I hardly ask others to do things for me so I found it a little awkward. Whether if they are really supportive of me becoming a doctor, I honestly don't really know, but they did agree that they will write a "strong letter of reference" for me within a week. I knew them (and volunteered with them) for over 2 years. So far I only asked for a single letter, but the other application isn't due (or available yet) for a while. I'll also keep in mind the things you people say about the opposite gender thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnussey Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 lol, this quickly got out of hand... It's for med school, not for grad school. Not like this matters, but I am a male, not a female. I thought it would be a little awkward asking for multiple reference letters from the same person, that's all. I just wasn't sure about it, since I hardly ask others to do things for me so I found it a little awkward. Whether if they are really supportive of me becoming a doctor, I honestly don't really know, but they did agree that they will write a "strong letter of reference" for me within a week. I knew them (and volunteered with them) for over 2 years. So far I only asked for a single letter, but the other application isn't due (or available yet) for a while. I'll also keep in mind the things you people say about the opposite gender thing. Male: Kilt it is. Well, both of my places require them to fill out a form too--along with the letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lactic Folly Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 OP: Well, you're certainly not alone in finding it awkward in requesting reference letters. Thanks for the clarification - if this is all part of the same deal (applying to med school), you could let them know that you are applying to more than one school, but not all the forms are available at once. To me, that would seem like a single request (just multipart). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 I wouldn't worry too much about that, future_doc. Things like this usually only happen to cute girls. Its never happened to me I am happy to report. Guys generally find me intimidating to approach which I like, boys hit on me which is cute (I appear to be younger than my chronological age) and most of my time is spent with other girls, in ballet, with emergency cases in EMS and with the chronic elderly I am privleged to serve. I sure am not what you would call 'cute' perhaps I am attractively authoritarian to my peers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 It was a joke--And kilts are hot. then, oy, you would know he was not joking. He just got out of the hospital and still feels the strain from the MCAT exam. Is it true what they say about those who weasr kilts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOC_Ma Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 OP: everyone gotta do that I believe unless u got like 10+ people that are willing to write u strong references because most people apply for more than 1 medical school (except for ontario u only need to do it once). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bj89 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 I wouldn't worry too much about that, future_doc. Things like this usually only happen to cute girls. burn........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnussey Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 then, oy, you would know he was not joking. He just got out of the hospital and still feels the strain from the MCAT exam. Is it true what they say about those who weasr kilts? Only some of them go commando. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w8kg6 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 And if you are a guy, wear a kilt???? The sexual objectification of us is sick as it is dangerous of us to ecourage and promote this kind of thinking or behavour. When I am going to be alone with someone of the opposite sex and I think the possibility may exist for an uncomfortable situation, men be warned, my minicorder, with audi and video is on, and your career as student or prof is over should you do or say anything inappropriate, and if you made the slightest touch for sexual purposes, you will be brought up on criminal charges. Rayven has admitted or implied that he is 15, so take his advice at your own risk. You've gotta be phucking kidding me. You record and videotape every conversation you have with a male for fear of the man coming on to you? Also, a sexual advance from a male student won't do anything to ruin his career as a student. The only thing it may result in is a high five from his friends or something of that sort. I wouldn't worry too much about that, future_doc. Things like this usually only happen to cute girls. This isn't really a burn, but perhaps a reference to something that's been posted by F_D before, in the thread http://www.premed101.com/forums/showthread.php?p=373231#post373231 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Only some of them go commando. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 You record and videotape every conversation you have with a male for fear of the man coming on to you? Of course not. Only those very rare occasions where I am not comfortable. Also, a sexual advance from a male student won't do anything to ruin his career as a student. The only thing it may result in is a high five from his friends or something of that sort. Absolutely correct. But if he crosses the line by touching, regardless of where he touches, this is another matter. Professors have been known to hit on the female students and now, they do so at grave risk, unless they are certain of their conquest and even then, they have crossed the boundary and may find they have just thrown their tenure out the window (if not initially, then when the break-up occurs). The more intelligent a man is, usually the more stupid he is terms of judgment in terms of following his sexual appetite. Just look at Governors in US States and ex Presidential candidates, indeed, ex-Presidents, as examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w8kg6 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 The more intelligent a man is, usually the more stupid he is terms of judgment in terms of following his sexual appetite. Just look at Governors in US States and ex Presdiential candidates, indeed, ex-Presidents, as examples. Source? Or are you under the pretense that a man with sub-normal intelligence wouldn't make an inappropriate advance on a woman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnussey Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Source? Or are you under the pretense that a man with sub-normal intelligence wouldn't make an inappropriate advance on a woman? Good lord...it's very simple to point out that just as many "unintelligent" men as well as "intelligent" men cannot control themselves. It doesn't have anything to do with their IQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnussey Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Of course not. Only those very rare occasions where I am not comfortable. Absolutely correct. But if he crosses the line by touching, regardless of where he touches, this is another matter. Professors have been known to hit on the female students and now, they do so at grave risk, unless they are certain of their conquest and even then, they have crossed the boundary and may find they have just thrown their tenure out the window (if not initially, then when the break-up occurs). The more intelligent a man is, usually the more stupid he is terms of judgment in terms of following his sexual appetite. Just look at Governors in US States and ex Presidential candidates, indeed, ex-Presidents, as examples. But you cannot tape someone if you "suddenly" become uncomfortable...and if you do--why would you go back? I tend to *avoid* anyone that I find creepy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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