little.holmes Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Hey guys, I just learned that O'Donnell (my chem teacher) is the worst and that my R-score will be screwed up because I have her. Is it that bad to have a bad teacher? Not that I can do anything to correct that, but I'd like to be prepared for my 1rst term... I'm scared... Will my chances of going into Mcgill evaporate? Is the first term really important? Help Thanks a bunch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normand Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 If you can't handle O'Donnell, I doubt you will be able to face all the challenges of medicine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Work hard on your own. Use notes from frieends who have another teacher. You will discover what self-learning means. Find a peer or professional tutor. You will do what you have to do to overcome this obstacle. Life is not a bed of roses, welcome to reality. Don't be scared, be pro-active! Every grade is important in this competitive game. You will do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebouque Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 She simply can't explain the material, but I don't think she's harder than someone else in her exams. Anwyay the material in chem1 is easy and lots of it is a review from sec 5 chem (moles, orbitals etc) Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturalKillerCell Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Hey guys, I just learned that O'Donnell (my chem teacher) is the worst and that my R-score will be screwed up because I have her. Is it that bad to have a bad teacher? Not that I can do anything to correct that, but I'd like to be prepared for my 1rst term... I'm scared... Will my chances of going into Mcgill evaporate? Is the first term really important? Help Thanks a bunch! If your r-score will be screwed, the only reason is YOU! stop put the blame on others...if you work hard, you shall succeed! and welcome to the cruel world of higher education where you find tons of very very very intelligent teacher who cant teach anyways, study seriously and you will be fine! good luck and have a fun cegep time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebouque Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 If your r-score will be screwed, the only reason is YOU! stop put the blame on others...if you work hard, you shall succeed! and welcome to the cruel world of higher education where you find tons of very very very intelligent teacher who cant teach anyways, study seriously and you will be fine! good luck and have a fun cegep time It's not because you're a cegep teacher that you're necessarily 'very very intelligent'. The words intelligent and genius are being used way too much. Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentista Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 ok .... just don't listen to what she says...in class.. but she's not that bad one on one and if you do go to class bring your chem book and use that time to write ur own notes... and stalk kids that are with mitchell or jinbachian or williams... they will have amazing notes her exams are usually very fair... and she's an easy marker but just make sure you know exactly all what's on the exam... she gets a little lost when it comes to decide when the material stops... anywayz wou'll be fine general chem is easy.. I just pray you don't get her for organic lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little.holmes Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Thanks guys, but some very unexpected piece of luck happened my way and my whole schedule is changed so now I don't have ODonnell anyway... Marianopolis' registration system is weird indeed... but I'll keep your helpful comments in mind if I have bad teachers, I knew I could count on you! Thanks a lot! PS: Do you know if textbooks are a must-have for everyclass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebouque Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Thanks guys, but some very unexpected piece of luck happened my way and my whole schedule is changed so now I don't have ODonnell anyway... Marianopolis' registration system is weird indeed... but I'll keep your helpful comments in mind if I have bad teachers, I knew I could count on you! Thanks a lot! PS: Do you know if textbooks are a must-have for everyclass? for most of the classes they're not a must have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturalKillerCell Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 It's not because you're a cegep teacher that you're necessarily 'very very intelligent'. The words intelligent and genius are being used way too much. Peace at Marianopolis, yes...XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 That's why you should come to Brebeuf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirop Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 I have to say something about this thread as a recent marianopolis graduate. Suck it up. This isn't high school where the teacher spoon feeds you. It's just for 3 months. Chemistry NYA with O'Donnell is fun. Her tests aren't hard. In life, you will come across situations where you have to self-teach. Don't blame others because you are the one thats paying for an education. The Zumdahl textbook is fantastic to self teach in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebouque Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 I have to say something about this thread as a recent marianopolis graduate. Suck it up. This isn't high school where the teacher spoon feeds you. It's just for 3 months. Chemistry NYA with O'Donnell is fun. Her tests aren't hard. In life, you will come across situations where you have to self-teach. Don't blame others because you are the one thats paying for an education. The Zumdahl textbook is fantastic to self teach in my opinion. You can turn this sentence into: in MEDICINE, you will NOT come to situations when you DON'T have to self teach lmao peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinic Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Haha lol…but u cant really choose someone (nor judge someone for that matter) on the basis of comments on ratemyteacher.com and I honestly have to say that a lot of my teachers are truly “underperforming” to live up to their title of “worst teacher ever”- then again… I might be bias since I always had a tendency to self-study anyway- but it just goes to say that subjectivity should not be converted into arbitrary marks (and i really hope that i would still believe in that statement even in the light of new evidence... i'll wait for the end of the term for that...) Anyway…. back to cal assignment… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Yes, the first term is an important term. Just as any other. No, your chances to be accepted in a medical faculty do not "evaporate". It's all up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles.sun9 Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 I have to dissagree with Sim, while 1rst term is indeed important to get you started social-wise and get a hang of the college, it is not as academically important as the other terms. First of all, the course load is much less and the stress of starting CEGEP makes it a bad term to judge on your academic capacities. Therefore, I do think University attach a lesser importance to this term. Also, half of your first semester will be revision of high school material (at least in science classes) and you already have your high school diploma to prove that you mastered it, so any drop in grades can be credited on the adaptation time required for college. So, make friends, have some fun, know the college and the teachers and don't stress that much; there's 3 other terms for being super nerdy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Therefore, I do think University attach a lesser importance to this term. Well, you can think whatever you want, but this is wrong. The first semester usually has the same number of credits as any other (fourth aside; it's not evaluated anyway), therefore making it as much important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles.sun9 Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 I think I haven't made myself as clear as I hoped here. I was simply stressing the point that a lower average in the 1rst term has a lesser impact than in the, say, 3rd term simply on the assumption that pre-med judges also make a complete study of someone's academic background. I do hope they don't only do R-score ranking or else a computer can be just as effective. You must agree with me therefore, that in an analysis of an applicant's CEGEP scores, the first term has a lesser impact. Pre-med, so I've heard, has one of the most subjective selection of all University programs, so it's not only numbers of credit and R-score. Of course, I do agree with you that it's better not to blow your 1rst semester as it still counts toward your R-score, but for 1rst year who finds it hard adapting to CEGEP, it may help to know that understanding human beings will be judging them, not unforgiving computers. Also, thank you for respecting my right to think whatever I want, it is highly appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 I really don't know where you've heard admissions were subjectives. They sure make the offers to those who got the highest R-Score and interviews, not to the one who got the best marks in a specific course or a specific semester. Even if during that semester, you had to "make friends, have fun, discover the CEGEP, adjust to the stress, and that these courses you've failed were just easy high school stuff anyway". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles.sun9 Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 While I do love arguing for the sake of arguing, I think we are getting bogged down on some minor issues. First of all, if CEGEP makes an analysis of your high school grades, I think it is a logical and safe assumption that universities do the same for your CEGEP marks (perhaps even more in depth considering the importance of university admission). Now considering that McGill is known for making comprehensive (meaning not only final R-score number) judgements by qualified and experienced ( I do hope! ) boards, they are even more likely to do so. Therefore, a lower 1rst semester but higher 2nd and 3rd would show, not a weak student, but someone who has adapted himself over the course of his first year. Of course, this is not relevant for someone who doesn't meet the minimum requirement, but 1rst years should not lose confidence on the sole argument of their 1rst term. While you may simplify the selection process by ''They sure make the offers to those who got the highest R-Score and interviews'', I do think that it goes a bit beyond that considering the importance of their decision. Now, I hope that you understand my point and the nuances I brought to your statement first. Lastly, I would like to point out that this quote: Even if during that semester, you had to "make friends, have fun, discover the CEGEP, adjust to the stress, and that these courses you've failed were just easy high school stuff anyway". is both inexact and an exaggeration of what I wrote before. While I do like to use quotes, taking them outside of their context and modifying them is only for cheap jokes and last-minute essays:D . Just wanted to point it out, hope you have a brilliant day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normand Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 While I do love arguing for the sake of arguing, I think we are getting bogged down on some minor issues. First of all, if CEGEP makes an analysis of your high school grades, I think it is a logical and safe assumption that universities do the same for your CEGEP marks (perhaps even more in depth considering the importance of university admission). Now considering that McGill is known for making comprehensive (meaning not only final R-score number) judgements by qualified and experienced ( I do hope! ) boards, they are even more likely to do so. Well, there's nothing to argue about. Universities don't have access to the individual R-score for each semester. They only receive the overall R-Score after your 3rd semester. And frankly, I doubt they will take the time to analyse your transcript considering how many applicants they have each year. Your personal statement and your performance during the interviews are much more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Now that's pretty clear. While I do love arguing for the sake of arguing I know I'm moralizing and that it might not be appreciated from a random person on the Internet, but I think you should argue about ideas, not facts. If you're not sure of what you're saying, you shouldn't speak, as you could mislead other people. Systems do not always obey to your personal logic or reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles.sun9 Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Now that's pretty clear. I know I'm moralizing and that it might not be appreciated from a random person on the Internet, but I think you should argue about ideas, not facts. If you're not sure of what you're saying, you shouldn't speak, as you could mislead other people. Systems do not always obey to your personal logic or reasoning. Once again, I am desolated. Your incomplete quote just changes the whole meaning of what I said. If you read through the sentence again, you'll certainly notice that this clause is a negative one, meaning that usually I DO like to argue for the sake of arguing but NOT this time. To make it a bit clearer to all, lets take an example: 'While I do like patatoes, I think they are best avoided this time.' Now in this sentence, I want to say that usually I DO like patatoes, but NOT this time. Therefore the while clause is a negative one. I hope I was clear enough and thanks for bearing with me. Thus taking this clause out of its sentence to refute me doesnt really make sense. This is especially sad when your main point is the importance of arguing on ideas, as you just wrongly refuted a simple clause instead of the main idea of my paragraph (which btw you could have destroyed just now considering Normand's facts). Therefore, it is quite ironic that you are moralizing me while doing the exact same thing you disapprove so very much. But, on a more positive note, I do agree with your last sentence, as systems are quite often not logical enough. But might I just say that most people would agree the logic thesis I proposed in earlier paragraphs and thus it is not only my personal logic (which sounds like I'm a maniac and no one thinks the same as I do). Lastly, to conclude my very long paragraph, I'd like to add that arguing with facts is the whole point of being a man of science. If Galileo didn't argue with facts, the sun would still be turning around the earth (for humans that is), if Democritus didn't argue with his fellow greeks, we wouldn't have nuclear technology, electricity and CHE-NYA,etc. you get my drift. And might I remind you that a doctor (which I presume you want to be) is a man of science and thus should learn to question facts? I do hope you have a brilliant week and please reply, I really enjoy your comments so keep them coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 What you manage to say out of what I said really outstand me. You gave wrong information to the OP; I told you to be careful about what you say. Maybe it wasn't necessary, but we're on the Internet after all, and I don't think it was anything too blunt. Let's chill out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles.sun9 Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Good point, but what's the OP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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