NAQ projected score?

[ryacha]

Any veterans have a possible projection for my NAQ score. cGPA is 80%, last 60 88%, 78% prereq and MCAT 39P so I think I'm about average on the AQ. Pre-interview I Figure my AQ = 20-21

 

On to the NAQ!

 

Leadership:

-Event Coordinator of a Student Auction: students (and me ) waxed legs, shaved heads etc. for cancer - 15 hrs

-Relay For Life Co-Chair: coordinated ~300 individuals, raised 24,000 - 180 hrs

-Few small other leadership conferences/positions - 60 hrs

 

Capacity to Work With Others:

-Emergency Triage Volunteer - 60 hrs (continuing)

-Won’t Get Weird Campaign: coordinate and fact check a public database that was created to provide the Lesbian/Gay/Bisexual/Transgendered community with lists of service providers -10 hrs

-Chem student society Social Event Planner - 180 hrs (2yrs)

- Outreach Volunteer: presented at health fairs across lower mainland about sexual health - 50 hrs

-Rec n' Reading Program Volunteer: helped/taught at a camp for kids that struggle with reading - 200 hrs

 

Service Ethic:

Drinking Awareness booth - created/operated health awarness booth on campus - 15 hrs

Change drive & sandwich drive coordinator - $1100/1500 sandwiches - 12 hrs

Inspiration Projects Volunteer - random fundraisers for sponsorship of a foreign student - 25 hrs

Rezwatch - think blockwatch - 220 hrs

Nightline Phone Operator - crisis line operator - 8mnths, 320 hrs

Tutor - 65 hrs

Sex Sense Line Phone Operator, Options for sexual health - answered sexual health q's - 1 yr, 280 hrs

 

Diversity of Experiences:

Tshirt design - 50 hrs

Painting - sold paintings in charity auction - 200 hrs

Vancouver Sun Run/recreational runner - 3 yrs, 250 hrs

Soccer/Baseball - 4000 hrs

Physics Olympics particpant - 50 hrs

 

Human Endeavor = big old blank (same with publications)

 

Employment:

Undergrad research - anti-cancer compounds - 4 mnths (10 hrs/week)

Community Advisor (residences) - 1 yes (30 hrs/week)

Field technician for a pest management/West Nile Prevention program - 4 summers (40hrs/week)

Sex Health clinic info assistant - 1 year (10 hrs/week)

Bunch of other unimportant part time non medically related jobs as well

 

Sorry for the lengthy post, but when I read other peoples descriptions I was often wondering what a specified position entailed (which is what really matters right?).

 

Thanks for any feedback and good luck to everyone as the deadline approaches!

[gourmet]

I would put you at around 16-18. have you applied to ubc before?

[ryacha]

I have twice before. I'm spanning out this year to other schools with a lot more NAQ on my resume. Hopefully it helps!

[gourmet]

interesting, your NAQ appears quite strong to me. what kind of scores did you receive when you previously applied?

[zunik]

interesting, your NAQ appears quite strong to me. what kind of scores did you receive when you previously applied?

 

I want to know too

[ryacha]

I want to know too

 

Here is last year:

 

-Won’t Get Weird Campaign: coordinate and fact check a public database that was created to provide the Lesbian/Gay/Bisexual/Transgendered community with lists of service providers -10 hrs

-Chem student society Social Event Planner - 180 hrs (2yrs)

- Outreach Volunteer: presented at health fairs across lower mainland about sexual health - 50 hrs

-Rec n' Reading Program Volunteer: helped/taught at a camp for kids that struggle with reading - 200 hrs

-Tutor - 65 hrs

-Sex Sense Line Phone Operator, Options for sexual health - answered sexual health q's - 1 yr, 280 hrs

-Painting - sold paintings in charity auction - 200 hrs

-Soccer/Baseball - 4000 hrs

-Physics Olympics particpant - 50 hrs

 

Employment:

Community Advisor (residences) - 1 yes (30 hrs/week)

Field technician for a pest management/West Nile Prevention program - 4 summers (40hrs/week)

Sex Health clinic info assistant - 1 year (10 hrs/week)

Bunch of other unimportant part time non medically related jobs as well

 

Basically I have added a lot in the last year. The above got me a 9.7 I think. However, I believe a huge part of that was misplacement of experiences into the wrong categories. Last year me was stupid. I was crushed though, because I had next to nothing 2 years ago on my NAQ (I mean like 5 activities) and got 11.5. I added a bunch of experience and went down almost 2 pts. Hopefully with the newly added experiences that doesn't happen again

[repede]

Wow, serious? Well I have no chance in **** at UBC, then.

[plastic]

Hey Rycha,

 

I think your NAQ looks fairly good and I would guess that you'd get a minimum of 16. However, for next time, I would recommend that you put your Chemistry Student Society experience under a different category. On the admissions website they describe "working with others" as experiences where you work with people other than your peers.

 

Best of luck to you.

[ryacha]

Hey Rycha,

 

I think your NAQ looks fairly good and I would guess that you'd get a minimum of 16. However, for next time, I would recommend that you put your Chemistry Student Society experience under a different category. On the admissions website they describe "working with others" as experiences where you work with people other than your peers.

 

Best of luck to you.

 

Thanks and I'll take that into account. The goal of that position was to find ways to integrate others but I can see why you, and adcom, would feel it doesn't fit.

 

To the above, don't stress, and in case you misread, 9.7 was for my second post of activities, the first post is yet to be rated. The first time I applied to UBC I had 5 activities and that equated to an 11.7. I think it depends a lot on what they are looking for in that specific year and my essay (when they had an essay) was garbage.

[Destiny Gundam]

HAHAHA Emergency Triage Volunteer ~

 

Please tell me it's not the VGH one. For anyone who's BEEN through that entrance CANNOT take that 'volunteering' activity for serious I am sorry.

 

Same with the Diamond Centre "ASK ME" volunteering as well.

[Destiny Gundam]

Hey Rycha,

 

I think your NAQ looks fairly good and I would guess that you'd get a minimum of 16. However, for next time, I would recommend that you put your Chemistry Student Society experience under a different category. On the admissions website they describe "working with others" as experiences where you work with people other than your peers.

 

Best of luck to you.

 

Rather generous. 12-13 I'd say.

[TheBoss]

Basically I have added a lot in the last year. The above got me a 9.7 I think. However, I believe a huge part of that was misplacement of experiences into the wrong categories. Last year me was stupid. I was crushed though, because I had next to nothing 2 years ago on my NAQ (I mean like 5 activities) and got 11.5. I added a bunch of experience and went down almost 2 pts. Hopefully with the newly added experiences that doesn't happen again

 

You know, after reading this and other people's posts + what NAQ scores they got, I have to say, the UBC NAQ scoring system is something I don't think I'll ever understand. I'm not going to pull up any examples, but a lot of the time it seems like the scores don't match up, relative to each other, with what activities/achievements are actually listed. It seems almost random at times.

 

BTW, I'm just commenting on what I'm seeing, I'm not a UBC applicant.

[repede]

I honestly don't know what to believe sometimes. Reading these forums gets me so depressed, and I almost didn't want to bother applying because I thought I'd have no chance.

 

But my brother knows someone that got in, that did essentially no volunteering. He's just worked for a few years (not even related to science), and his primary extracurricular (rather, former extracurricular) is a musical instrument. Maybe the guy's just playing down his qualifications, but go figure.

[ryacha]

I honestly don't know what to believe sometimes. Reading these forums gets me so depressed, and I almost didn't want to bother applying because I thought I'd have no chance.

 

But my brother knows someone that got in, that did essentially no volunteering. He's just worked for a few years (not even related to science), and his primary extracurricular (rather, former extracurricular) is a musical instrument. Maybe the guy's just playing down his qualifications, but go figure.

 

Frustrating sometimes yes, but this also means that persistence pays off. I had an adcom say they changed their criteria often to ensure that a persistent will eventually have a chance to shine. Odd system I agree, but in a way I can see the logic of it.

 

Maybe the EC-less instrument player had very little on the application but those little things were keys to getting in. Maybe he/she had an amazing essay, who knows, but bottom line is be persistent.

 

IMO UBC has a system that deters the half-hearted and accepts the truly passionate, and I know those are the people I want to learn with in the next (potential) 4 years.

[TheBoss]

Frustrating sometimes yes, but this also means that persistence pays off. I had an adcom say they changed their criteria often to ensure that a persistent will eventually have a chance to shine. Odd system I agree, but in a way I can see the logic of it.

 

Anecdotal evidence, I know, but that seems odd to me because UBC meds is school that I know of with the highest proportion of people who applied multiple times without getting in. I know someone who applied 6 or 7 times, finished his PhD along the way, never got it, and finally decided it wasn't practical for him to go do med schooling anymore. He's among a couple of other people I know of who applied multiple times without getting in.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is that from what I've seen, UBC seemed the least rewarding of persistence.

[LupeFiasco]

Anecdotal evidence, I know, but that seems odd to me because UBC meds is school that I know of with the highest proportion of people who applied multiple times without getting in. I know someone who applied 6 or 7 times, finished his PhD along the way, never got it, and finally decided it wasn't practical for him to go do med schooling anymore. He's among a couple of other people I know of who applied multiple times without getting in.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is that from what I've seen, UBC seemed the least rewarding of persistence.

 

I think UBC expects people who re-apply to have done a lot more with regards to their NAQ in that one year period. Most people tend not to live up to that standard which is why their NAQ drops. Seeing as most people who reapply usually have the same AQ, their NAQ dropping does not help at all.

 

I think that's part of the reason.

 

It's not like they pick out people who've applied numerous times and just give interviews to a small percentage of them. There's definitely a process and they expect more out of people who reapply. I think persistence definitely pays off but in the right context (i.e. someone who works for the entire year and volunteers in numerous places and also has some ECs vs. someone who just stays in school for a year or someone who just works a job for a year and does nothing else).

 

That's my two cents.

 

- Lupe

[Destiny Gundam]

Persistence pays off I agree. But one really has to do a lot of self reflection to figure out why you dont get in his/her first second third try.

 

Most people I know got in on the first try. Our class survey reflects that as well. Most people only took the MCAT once too.

 

No, that is not a strong NAQ. Prove me wrong.

[ryacha]

Persistence pays off I agree. But one really has to do a lot of self reflection to figure out why you dont get in his/her first second third try.

 

Most people I know got in on the first try. Our class survey reflects that as well. Most people only took the MCAT once too.

 

No, that is not a strong NAQ. Prove me wrong.

 

Oh man, I opened a can of worms on this one. We have some very polarized views. I posted this so long ago, pre-deadline, just out of curiosity, and it wasn't me fishing for claims of 20 and 21, it was for constructive feedback for my UBC application and others. I have gotten the terrible scores so you can imagine where my confidence level stands so believe me when I say that not once did I claim it was as a strong NAQ. I hope I land an interview but I'll know in 45ish days either way.

 

The MCAT is a minimal factor so I definitely agree that once is usually enough. As for all first tries maybe so. I know in my first application I was 19 years old and given that the average age admitted age is 24ish most years perhaps it is a reality that these colleagues of yours that were admitted first try were the students who spent years gaining the life experience to have a strong NAQ, something the rest of us are working towards. Either way I hope UBC is treating you well and maybe I'll see you there next year!

 

Edit: I promise to update you either way

[sfuguy]

I think UBC expects people who re-apply to have done a lot more with regards to their NAQ in that one year period. Most people tend not to live up to that standard which is why their NAQ drops. Seeing as most people who reapply usually have the same AQ, their NAQ dropping does not help at all.

 

I think that's part of the reason.

 

It's not like they pick out people who've applied numerous times and just give interviews to a small percentage of them. There's definitely a process and they expect more out of people who reapply. I think persistence definitely pays off but in the right context (i.e. someone who works for the entire year and volunteers in numerous places and also has some ECs vs. someone who just stays in school for a year or someone who just works a job for a year and does nothing else).

 

 

That's my two cents.

 

- Lupe

 

Thats interesting??!!

 

But I have to say from my experience, having applied multiple times, I would say that is not necessarily true. My score has stayed about the same or has risen slightly with the few additional things that I have done over the years. I must say that after being rejected I did not go wild on my ECs just to bump my NAQ. I just continued my previous activities, took on leadership roles within them, continued my life, and described things better (I think) the subsequent application cycle.

 

I asked adcom how reapplicants are looked at and they stated that there is NO prejudice. If reapplicants were expected to do more or else their score would drop as a consequence, then that to me sounds like prejudice, so I don't think that is the case.

 

who knows though??

[Destiny Gundam]

Oh man, I opened a can of worms on this one. We have some very polarized views. I posted this so long ago, pre-deadline, just out of curiosity, and it wasn't me fishing for claims of 20 and 21, it was for constructive feedback for my UBC application and others. I have gotten the terrible scores so you can imagine where my confidence level stands so believe me when I say that not once did I claim it was as a strong NAQ. I hope I land an interview but I'll know in 45ish days either way.

 

The MCAT is a minimal factor so I definitely agree that once is usually enough. As for all first tries maybe so. I know in my first application I was 19 years old and given that the average age admitted age is 24ish most years perhaps it is a reality that these colleagues of yours that were admitted first try were the students who spent years gaining the life experience to have a strong NAQ, something the rest of us are working towards. Either way I hope UBC is treating you well and maybe I'll see you there next year!

 

Edit: I promise to update you either way

 

haha OP my post wasn't really directed at u if that makes sense. it's really directed at some of the stuff other posters have said that I disagree with, that's all Maybe i should've keep my mouth shut haha.

 

best of luck to you.