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Why is MMA singled out when head injuries in the NHL are at a staggering alarming rate and have always been high in football?

 

What about boxing?

 

Where are their statements seeking a ban on alcohol and tobacco?

 

Well they have been pushing on the hockey front quite a bit I guess - certainly put up more than a little in that regard. They have been pushing on the tobacco front in politically possible ways for decades now (with some effect).

 

I mean the trouble is you can stretch the mandiate of our provincial organizations to include a huge amount of stuff - and if you tried you become useless. Alcohol, tobacco, gambling, fast food, highway speeds over 100K, peanuts, any "unhealthy food", air pollution from particular automobiles.......where does it stop and realistically can you actually do anything about these (or should you). Just because they cannot fight everything doesn't mean they should fight nothing.

 

Whether they should oppose MMA is probably the more interesting question :) As a relatively new addition it would certainly be easier to knock off than boxing.

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Not sure if you guys will like this comment, but I really don't understand why they would want to ban the sport entirely. It just seems to rash.

MMA does not require the use of protection such as headgear, why not just impose stricter guidelines and make it mandatory to protect the player from serious injury?

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Even if it is banned in BC, it will still be active elsewhere. Those invested in the sport will just go to another province to fight, taking away revenue from such events in our province.

 

I still stand by improving the sport rather than forcing a ban. The latter seems like an overreaction.

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Not sure if you guys will like this comment, but I really don't understand why they would want to ban the sport entirely. It just seems to rash.

MMA does not require the use of protection such as headgear, why not just impose stricter guidelines and make it mandatory to protect the player from serious injury?

 

Neither does boxing at the professional level.

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Well said.

 

It's people who know nothing about the sport who get om their soapboxes because of how the sport looks.

 

 

I've played hockey and i've played football and for me what makes me squimish are the most violent of hits in these sports over two guys punching each other.

 

Btw, someone was killed during the luge. Ban the luge! Its mot a safe sport. :rolleyes:

This is just the BC Medical Association making themselves look stupid. MMA is a legitimate sport with world-class athletes. A LOT of top MMA fighters are former Olympic wrestlers and even more were NCAA athletes. Others are world-class kickboxers and submission grapplers. They are acting like its 1993 and the UFC is just two guys going out there with little to no rules.

 

Just to educate, MMA is a sport where two guys can kick, punch, and elbow standing and punch and elbow on the ground. They can also use submissions. There is no standing 8 count like in boxing where a boxer can be knocked down quite a few times taking a lot of punishment. Also, because the rules are more flexible than boxing, its easier to defend oneself and plenty of 15 and 25 minute fights can end up with both fighters taking an insignificant amount of damage as there is a lot of grappling.

 

As far as this article, they talk about some amateur promotion but the reality is that this WASN'T MMA. It was a toughman/boxing competition. It has nothing to do with the rules of MMA--it would look like MMA to someone who doesn't know what it is. And as far as regulation, professional promotions (UFC, Strikeforce, etc.) have amazing standards with fighters getting far more than what the gov't requires. This is why there HAS NEVER been a serious injury or death in a major MMA promotion, unlike boxing, football, hockey, car racing, and all those dumb winter sports that BC is famous for.

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Here's a more uncomfortable question:

 

In luge, the point is to go really fast downhill.

 

In boxing / endless permutations thereof, the point is to try and hurt your opponent badly enough so that he can't fight anymore.

 

What does it say about the viewer, psychologically, that they like to see two men (usually) hurt each other as much as they can? Maybe the medical associations should rail to ban extreme fighting / boxing on the basis that is it psychologically unhealthy. Maybe there shouldn't be society-endorsed actual extreme violence for general consumption anymore than the public should be able to watch televised child abuse, dog fighting, etc. etc. . . .

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Here's a more uncomfortable question:

 

In luge, the point is to go really fast downhill.

 

In boxing / endless permutations thereof, the point is to try and hurt your opponent badly enough so that he can't fight anymore.

 

What does it say about the viewer, psychologically, that they like to see two men (usually) hurt each other as much as they can? Maybe the medical associations should rail to ban extreme fighting / boxing on the basis that is it psychologically unhealthy. Maybe there shouldn't be society-endorsed actual extreme violence for general consumption anymore than the public should be able to watch televised child abuse, dog fighting, etc. etc. . . .

 

Sorry but fighting is in our DNA for a LOT of people. I think few enjoy seeing the bacjyard brawl type where someone gets the crap beat out of then but fighting is natural to humans. Always has been, always will.

 

I dont enjoy seeing an outright beating in any setting but i do enjoy seeing two people of equal skill and talent fight. Id rather watch boxing or MMA where the sport is fighting based than fights in hockey (orother noncombat sports) where fighting is not the sport.

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Sorry but fighting is in our DNA for a LOT of people.

 

Agreed. Since the Romans in the colosseums (and probably before), people have watched others fight, kill and die for entertainment.

 

But the question remains: is it emotionally healthy for the consumer? Should any "sport" have as its objective to hurt your opponent as much as you can?

 

If someone wants to see it, and it's legal, is it acceptable to view? Should executions be televised, for example? I'm sure people would tune in, but is it a good idea?

 

Just a thought . . . .

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Here's a more uncomfortable question:

 

In luge, the point is to go really fast downhill.

 

In boxing / endless permutations thereof, the point is to try and hurt your opponent badly enough so that he can't fight anymore.

 

What does it say about the viewer, psychologically, that they like to see two men (usually) hurt each other as much as they can? Maybe the medical associations should rail to ban extreme fighting / boxing on the basis that is it psychologically unhealthy. Maybe there shouldn't be society-endorsed actual extreme violence for general consumption anymore than the public should be able to watch televised child abuse, dog fighting, etc. etc. . . .

 

We can say that fast food causes physical harm and can also cause psychological distress to those who are overweight, thanks to media. How come that's not banned yet? A lot more people have died due to obesity than due to MMA, yet there is no action taken to stop obesity.

 

Just another flaw in our broken system.

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We can say that fast food causes physical harm . . . . How come that's not banned yet?

 

I agree with you! Why hasn't it been banned in Canada?

 

Elsewhere in the world, the process has begun. Certain food products felt to be bad for you (I'm speaking of trans fats) have been banned in restaurants in the state of California (as well as New York City). God love 'em, the Danish have banned them whole-hog.

 

I'm hopeful that a wholesale ban on McDonald's style fast food is not too far behind. And a good thing it would be, too! Although it's paternalistic, I think we should make bad-but-not-illegal things as difficult to access as possible. Sure, you can still go home and make fried chicken or greasy burgers for yourself, but it should be harder to get your hands on than pulling into a drive in!

 

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540 calories, 32 grams of fat and 1,380 milligrams of sodium

 

More wheatgrass juice, less Coke! (I'm joking, I think they're both disgusting. Drink water :))

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540 calories, 32 grams of fat and 1,380 milligrams of sodium

 

*Drools like Homer Simpson*

 

Ban on McDonalds = Pigs flying :P

 

While we are blaming MMA, what about WWE? I am pretty sure it's more unsafe to watch. I mean all those idiot kids (like I used to be) try to mimic those awesome acrobatic moves. :rolleyes:

 

Also, I am pretty sure that the fighters know what they are getting into. It's not like they don't know the consequences. It is unfair to ban one sport just because of one incident.

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. It is unfair to ban one sport just because of one incident.

 

ahh but that's the Canadian way. We're a bunch of over reactionaries who like to put in place legislation to protect people instead of forcing people to use personal responsibility to protect themselves.

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Also, I am pretty sure that the fighters know what they are getting into. It's not like they don't know the consequences. It is unfair to ban one sport just because of one incident.

 

True - but we have a whole lot of laws that override things people being able to decide things health wise. Like it or not you have to wear a seat belt, and a helmet on a motorcycle I guess are the standard examples. I am not saying we should ban the sport, but knowing the consequences isn't enough of a justification for all risky things :)

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ahh but that's the Canadian way. We're a bunch of over reactionaries who like to put in place legislation to protect people instead of forcing people to use personal responsibility to protect themselves.

 

hehehehehe well we are kind of a socialist country - what do you expect :)

 

You cannot have universal health care than then expect the government not to take an interest in things that potentially impact the health of the population as a whole.

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