aaronjw Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 Is it just me or does this mentality bug anyone else? I've heard three students say this in reference to either their exam marks or final course marks and are hoping for a bell curve because, after all, they studied their ass off and deserve to be given a break for their efforts and rewarded with a higher mark. Why do they deserve anything? They got what they got. Maybe wasn't their level of effort, maybe it was their ability? Maybe it was that they studied hard but not smart? Why do they feel entitled? Life isn't generally a linear process. In some instances it can be but those are few and far between. Effort doesn't always equal reward. How many researchers work their ass off on an experiment only to have it fail? How many people work their asses off only to make minimum wage? How many train as hard as they can in a sport only to be cut from the team? Life isn't fair. Deal with it lol /rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrogirl Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 Agreed. I don't even know what else to say about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 Agreed. I never asked for or received breaks. Merit rules the day. Charity does not exist in academics or professional school. Life is tough and we need to deal with it and find strategies that work for us. Survival of the fittest, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB. Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 I'm in total agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minion Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 I think its part of maturing.. I'll be honest, I whined and got mad about bad marks. But I am learning and its part of life. You win some and you lose some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted December 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 ROFL A prof just posted this on a course website: BELL CURVE: a normal distribution of data wherein 95% of the data is within two standard deviations of the mean. Data in this course in no way resembles a bell curve so please resist asking me whether the data will be "belled" or "bell curved". Please learn the meaning of words in advance of their use. Thank you. Hahahaj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerena Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 ROFL A prof just posted this on a coarse website: BELL CURVE: a normal distribution of data wherein 95% of the data is within two standard deviations of the mean. Data in this course in no way resembles a bell curve so please resist asking me whether the data will be "belled" or "bell curved". Please learn the meaning of words in advance of their use. Thank you. Hahahaj Haha *thumbs up!* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehumanmacbook Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 ROFL A prof just posted this on a course website: BELL CURVE: a normal distribution of data wherein 95% of the data is within two standard deviations of the mean. Data in this course in no way resembles a bell curve so please resist asking me whether the data will be "belled" or "bell curved". Please learn the meaning of words in advance of their use. Thank you. Hahahaj LOL wish some of my profs did that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 ROFL A prof just posted this on a course website: BELL CURVE: a normal distribution of data wherein 95% of the data is within two standard deviations of the mean. Data in this course in no way resembles a bell curve so please resist asking me whether the data will be "belled" or "bell curved". Please learn the meaning of words in advance of their use. Thank you. Hahahaj Ha! This actually is what always bugged me about "curving" - the distribution in class grade rarely is anything close to normally distributed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychoswim Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 ROFL A prof just posted this on a course website: BELL CURVE: a normal distribution of data wherein 95% of the data is within two standard deviations of the mean. Data in this course in no way resembles a bell curve so please resist asking me whether the data will be "belled" or "bell curved". Please learn the meaning of words in advance of their use. Thank you. Hahahaj LOL!! I don't get the entitlement sense either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedPen Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 When education is this expensive, students see it as a product and not just an opportunity. They believe they deserve the A because they paid for it. I am still not entirely sure if I think this is a bad attitude or not. No, no, you don't pay for a grade. You pay for the opportunity to earn a grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixon Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 Totally agree too, except when the exams questions are poorly constructed or when the evaluation actully does not evaluate what it's supposed to evaluate (i.e. questions about something the teacher said wouldn't be a part of the test). Then it is frustrating to see your acutal efforts not being rewarded by a good mark ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovestruck Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 Totally agree too, except when the exams questions are poorly constructed or when the evaluation actully does not evaluate what it's supposed to evaluate (i.e. questions about something the teacher said wouldn't be a part of the test). Then it is frustrating to see your acutal efforts not being rewarded by a good mark ! Completely agree with this...to a point. If the prof says its not on the exam, I still study it. Profs usually forget what they said two minutes after they say it, so I don't think they put this "not testable" material on the exam to be jerks but because they honestly forgot they said they wouldn't test on it! It still annoys me to see it on the exam, but I think that after 1st year, people should realize it does happen and prepare. I hate when profs are incompetent and just don't teach things they test you on. I did a class once with a prof who I had taken a class with the year before. He asked a question on the exam that was related to the material for last years class not the one he was teaching! He got confused with what he had taught us and what he teaches in the other class. Me and the one other person who had taken the class last year aced it but everyone else failed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<abstract> Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 Completely agree with this...to a point. If the prof says its not on the exam, I still study it. Profs usually forget what they said two minutes after they say it, so I don't think they put this "not testable" material on the exam to be jerks but because they honestly forgot they said they wouldn't test on it! It still annoys me to see it on the exam, but I think that after 1st year, people should realize it does happen and prepare. I hate when profs are incompetent and just don't teach things they test you on. I did a class once with a prof who I had taken a class with the year before. He asked a question on the exam that was related to the material for last years class not the one he was teaching! He got confused with what he had taught us and what he teaches in the other class. Me and the one other person who had taken the class last year aced it but everyone else failed! In my case I had a prof who taught me the material but unfortunately the final was so damn hard - unreasonably hard - that my mark tanked. It was not my fault at all, I studied all of the required texts well in advanced, the prof just decided to test us on random stuff that he did not even cover in the class or what was mentioned in the course outline. The class average ended up being about 45% so I was happy with my B+ especially when only two people in a class of 450 got A's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixon Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 Completely agree with this...to a point. If the prof says its not on the exam, I still study it. That's what I do too, most of the time. But testing us on subjects the prof said we wouldn't be tested on was just an example among many things that kind of discourage me when it comes to evaluation techniques and standards. Another example as you said is making exams way too difficult with subjects that weren't even taught in class or in the reference lectures. They keep saying ''We do this to discriminate strong students from average students''. To me this is pure bullsh*t. Okay, enough b*tching for me today Lets go study and ace the finals ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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