Falling Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Right. But York wouldn't allow tenured full time profs to continue classes even if they wished to do so whereas at UofT, activities can pretty much go on uninterrupted and the university remains open (they just can't have TAs doing work or whatever) They probably figure that such a large amount of classes would be cancelled, that it makes sense to simply cancel classes. York also has a policy on crossing picket lines, stating that no one will be held responsible for not crossing a picket line - U of T doesn't have such a policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolelol Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Contract faculty will also be on strike at York. Ohh I'm even more conflicted about this strike now. Schools treat contract faculty like **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Ohh I'm even more conflicted about this strike now. Schools treat contract faculty like **** I would be 100% behind a strike if it didn't have an impact on my med school/graduate school applications next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmills94 Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Are they gonna post the decision tomorrow? Our biochem prof was saying March 3rd is the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolelol Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Are they gonna post the decision tomorrow? Our biochem prof was saying March 3rd is the deadline. http://www.thestar.com/yourtoronto/education/2015/02/26/midnight-strike-deadline-looms-for-teaching-assistants.html "At York, some 3,700 teaching assistants and contract faculty in CUPE 3903 will strike Tuesday if talks over the weekend fail to produce a deal." Your prof was right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruhh Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Guessing UofT isn't going on strike? it's Feb 27 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 U of T isn't going on strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 relative deal reached with UofT teaching assistants. Should be interesting to see how this impacts York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I still have a problem when TA's say the $15K they receive is below the poverty line. You knew what the $ was going in - no one forced you into graduate work AND since when does being a student entitle you to a living wage? Get a PT job like UG's or non-students if you need more money to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I'm not sure if they're allowed to take part time jobs. If graduate students just stopped for some reason, research would probably die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I'm not sure if they're allowed to take part time jobs. If graduate students just stopped for some reason, research would probably die. Grad students are free to do whatever they want with their spare time. If grad students stopped then we'd be forced to have two professorial streams - those who actually teach and those who do research. You have to remember this is my second UG that's 17 years removed from my first in which I had professors who taught several classes a semester, did outside research and where the majority weren't on contract and who didn't have an abundance of graduates TA'ing courses like we do now. I paid FAR less in tuition then and the product (quality of education) was far better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Grad students can't just take on part time jobs. They don't have time for that (at least from what I've seen in my lab). They pretty much work a full time job being a grad student. From 8 am or whenever they wake up until night time they are busy with TA work, their own course work, or research. Most have very little free time. As an undergrad I can heave a sigh of relief when my exams/midterms are over but grad students are continuously working. They should at least be compensated enough to be able to live off whatever they're making and pay tuition considering they're contributing much more than other workers who still manage to make more than the poverty line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Grad students are free to do whatever they want with their spare time. If grad students stopped then we'd be forced to have two professorial streams - those who actually teach and those who do research. You have to remember this is my second UG that's 17 years removed from my first in which I had professors who taught several classes a semester, did outside research and where the majority weren't on contract and who didn't have an abundance of graduates TA'ing courses like we do now. I paid FAR less in tuition then and the product (quality of education) was far better. Some schools have rules that prohibit grad students from taking on part time work for greater than 5-10 hours a week ; I don't think they have time for even that much. We're already seeing some graduate programs creating a separate stream - Immunology at U of T is introducing a course based stream that doesn't offer a stipend. I'm assuming the goal of such a stream is to teach research skills and push people into biotech/pharma since the GTA has a crapload of biotech/pharma companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Apparently U of T may yet have a strike. From the tweets, it is not looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruhh Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 How is that possible? their strike deadline was yesterday so I don't think they can even go on strike anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 U of T is officially going on strike. The bargaining team passed a preliminary deal so that they could extend the deadline long enough to get the union members to vote. They voted no. I guess we'll be having our winter term exams in july again lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 This doesn't mean York will go on strike though no doubt an agreement at UofT would have laid the foundation for York's final bargaining sessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruhh Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 U of T is officially going on strike. The bargaining team passed a preliminary deal so that they could extend the deadline long enough to get the union members to vote. They voted no. I guess we'll be having our winter term exams in july again lol Lol wow. Where is the source for this btw? I'm not seeing it on CUPE3902's site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 There can be no true despair without hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Lol wow. Where is the source for this btw? I'm not seeing it on CUPE3902's site Twitter - the only real source for news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 ^^^ or tears lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I think we can expect a strike, but my practicum supervisor didn't think it would be as bad as the last one. He said the real negotations start when theyre legally in strike position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I'm just hoping for a week. A week would be swell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I'm just hoping for a week. A week would be swell 2 weeks or under and I'm okay. 3 weeks is the meh zone. After that, I will be pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goku Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 http://secretariat.info.yorku.ca/files/Final-Communication-from-Senate-Executive.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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