Apostle is RL Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Hi, Does the UofT weighting formula apply to those with 3 year degrees? I'm wondering this because I'm currently in a 4 year program (second year) but i could switch to a 3 year degree and if i don't get in in Canada i could go back for a 4th year and do the pre-reqs for US med (my current 4 year degree major will not give me the flexibility to take orgo, inorgo, biochecm, English etc...) My weighted UofT will be 3.9+ if i am weighted. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trojjanhorse Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Hi, Does the UofT weighting formula apply to those with 3 year degrees? I'm wondering this because I'm currently in a 4 year program (second year) but i could switch to a 3 year degree and if i don't get in in Canada i could go back for a 4th year and do the pre-reqs for US med (my current 4 year degree major will not give me the flexibility to take orgo, inorgo, biochecm, English etc...) My weighted UofT will be 3.9+ if i am weighted. thanks. Took this directly from their admission page: Applicants who have taken a full course load in every year A GPA weighting formula may be used for students who have completed at least three years of university study and have taken a full course load (i.e., five full credits), during the regular academic session, in each of their academic years. GPA will be calculated eliminating one full-course equivalent grade per full year of study. Students applying after completion of three years of study will have their lowest 3 full-course equivalent grades removed from the GPA calculation, after completion of four years, their lowest 4 full-course equivalent grades, etc. We remove lowest overall grades, not lowest grades in each year of study. This calculation is designed to encourage students to take demanding, advanced courses which advance their education during their undergraduate years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apostle is RL Posted January 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Took this directly from their admission page: Applicants who have taken a full course load in every year A GPA weighting formula may be used for students who have completed at least three years of university study and have taken a full course load (i.e., five full credits), during the regular academic session, in each of their academic years. GPA will be calculated eliminating one full-course equivalent grade per full year of study. Students applying after completion of three years of study will have their lowest 3 full-course equivalent grades removed from the GPA calculation, after completion of four years, their lowest 4 full-course equivalent grades, etc. We remove lowest overall grades, not lowest grades in each year of study. This calculation is designed to encourage students to take demanding, advanced courses which advance their education during their undergraduate years. Yes but some people are accepted during their 3rd year of a 4 year degree. So i can apply with a 3 year degree and be weighted and dont have to be enrolled in a 4 year degree program? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindsight Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Yes but some people are accepted during their 3rd year of a 4 year degree. So i can apply with a 3 year degree and be weighted and dont have to be enrolled in a 4 year degree program? No, I don't think so. You will not have completed three years when you are applying. When you apply in your fourth year, you have completed three years and so they will remove your three lowest full year courses. If you have already graduated from your (four year) undergrad, your lowest four courses will be removed. However, when you apply during your third year, you only have two full years of classes completed. They do not weight your GPA. I'm guessing this is because they don't feel that 8 full year classes would be enough to assess your academic performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindsight Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Yes but some people are accepted during their 3rd year of a 4 year degree. So i can apply with a 3 year degree and be weighted and dont have to be enrolled in a 4 year degree program? To add to what I just said though, I think if you have COMPLETED your three year degree by the time you apply, your GPA will be weighted. This is how I interpret their requirements. You could always ask them to be certain though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trojjanhorse Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 you CANNOT get the weighing formular if you have NOT COMPLETED the 3 years prior applying. How can they weigh the formula BEFORE you finish the 3rd year? Common sense anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmathematics Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 What if someone finishes a degree with 5 full courses in each year...then for fun they take 1 course the next year and withdraw from that class? What kind of weighting formula would be applied? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottawamed.90 Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 What if someone finishes a degree with 5 full courses in each year...then for fun they take 1 course the next year and withdraw from that class? What kind of weighting formula would be applied? Part-Time Courses Courses taken on a part-time basis are not included in the applicant's GPA calculation. However, these courses are counted, if successfully completed, in counting the total number of credits and for fulfillment of prerequisites. Also from their website... Plus if you withdrew from the class, you wouldn't get a grade so why would it matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmathematics Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 I'm wondering if that person would still get the weighing formula applied for the 4 years of full time credits? I read somewhere that Deborah said that if someone takes 4 credits and 1 credit that was withdrawn, it still counts as "5 full courses" in the sense that the applicant still is eligible for the weighing formula. So I'm wondering if someone takes 1 course one year, then would they suddenly be considered as "not eligible" anymore? Just wondering... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apostle is RL Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 To add to what I just said though, I think if you have COMPLETED your three year degree by the time you apply, your GPA will be weighted. This is how I interpret their requirements. You could always ask them to be certain though. This is more the question i was asking. Honestly i dont understand why some others misinterpreted the question. I dont recall where i said i would apply after second year or before completion of the degree :S. Thanks and i will contact UofT to verify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organeer Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 If you complete a three year degree and did it full time for each three of the years, yes you qualify for weighted GPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apostle is RL Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 If you complete a three year degree and did it full time for each three of the years, yes you qualify for weighted GPA Thanks for the response, im personally emailing UofT regarding this just for peace of mind. As much as i love my major i really don't see a point in doing a 4th year if i don't need to when i could be taking US MD pre-reqs or boosting my EC's instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMagnum Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 EDIT: For clarity please note that when I say credit, I'm referring to McGill's system rather than the UofT's. I say "full-course equivalents" at the end here to refer to UofT's system. McGill has a credit weighing system which kind of muddles this calculation, since full-time over there is defined as 12.0 credits/semester, with an upper limit of 17.0 credits/semester. Here's my situation: In each semester of 1st year: 3 courses worth 4.0 credits and 1 course worth 3.0 credits = total of 15.0 credits, but only 4 courses/semester In the following four semesters (i.e, 2nd and 3rd year): 5 courses worth 3.0 credits or 4 courses worth 3.0 and 1 course worth 4.0 = total of 15.0 or 16.0 credits with 5 classes per semester According to McGill's policy, I was well into full-time status without issue. However, judging by my OMSAS, every course is considered equally, and the UofT might therefore only see four full-course equivalents per semester of my first year, despite the circumstances. I only just now realized this discrepancy. What can I do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organeer Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Thanks for the response, im personally emailing UofT regarding this just for peace of mind. As much as i love my major i really don't see a point in doing a 4th year if i don't need to when i could be taking US MD pre-reqs or boosting my EC's instead. Also, lets say you reapply, and one or two US MD prereqs appear on your transcript, I'm not sure how that will change full time status. But yes - good idea to e-mail them...it's a different situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrumpet Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 If you have 3 years and apply for the weighting formula, you can remove a total of your 6.0 lowest credits, right (because for OMSAS, 1.0 cr=1 semester)? And if you have, say, 3.0 of those lowest credits in 1 out of the 3 years, there's no problem in eliminating these 3.0 credits, or is there? also, I have, as I mentioned, 3 years of grades, but each year has 15.0 credits (i take a lot of courses), will this make a difference in my GPA calculation, or have any effect at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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