apache Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 so does not accepting students, really mean not accepting? because my god, i can see how anyone doing non bio oriented research on say, adhd, with almost 3 mil in funding... no, no nserc, ssrc, who has 12 grad students... with little bio based research, couldn't take any more on, but well, someone familiar with masters programs tell me how breakable this rule is if your enough of an asset, two of four i'm interested in have two many students, ones also very good, but shares very similar interests, may be glad to have someone on who does stuff at the core of their interests but with a different specialty (they focus on language deficits, and test validity, lots of stuff with direct overlap, and has interest in adhd)... finally new assistant prof where i would have a lot more directive autonomy than first lab, plus bring things to the table of mutual benefit... favoring number 3 right now, since im into well, hippie, egalitarian medicine and a fair shot for everyone, in the true sense... plus this fits niche of us md's i'd like to target... the more multi-dis ones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osteon Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 In general, if they say they're not taking students, you won't change their mind. Normally it would be because (a) while they may have millions in funding, not all of that can be used to support students, meaning they may have no money left from the grant that is eligible to be used for student support, ( they may have a sabbatical planned, © they may already feel over-burdened by the size of their current group, (d) they just flat out don't have the interest in another student at the moment. For any of these things, it won't matter how qualified you are - it won't change their mind. In addition though, if these guys have tons of funding in hot research areas, it could just be that the competition for those grad student spots are fierce and they may have already chosen someone else. So I'd focus on other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted February 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 honestly, looking at these labs, i think c is the case, and that you're right, 12 grad students... yeah, i decided on diff group with similar interests to me, although slightly tangental, i also like the smaller group setting, i worked in a 8-9 grad student lab and a 2 grad student lab (the latter was far more, i guess u'd say prestigious, lol, the prof is top of their area... and their productivity was on par with the bigger group, so i know size doesn't necessarily mean strength or personal fit) personally, i loved the 2 person thing, you have more autonomy, honestly, i found i developed far stronger bonds with the ppl i worked with, one of the two i still am close friends with, could stop by whenever and talk to, ask advice... so yeah, thanks for the advice In general, if they say they're not taking students, you won't change their mind. Normally it would be because (a) while they may have millions in funding, not all of that can be used to support students, meaning they may have no money left from the grant that is eligible to be used for student support, ( they may have a sabbatical planned, © they may already feel over-burdened by the size of their current group, (d) they just flat out don't have the interest in another student at the moment. For any of these things, it won't matter how qualified you are - it won't change their mind. In addition though, if these guys have tons of funding in hot research areas, it could just be that the competition for those grad student spots are fierce and they may have already chosen someone else. So I'd focus on other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneonesip Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 so does not accepting students, really mean not accepting? because my god, i can see how anyone doing non bio oriented research on say, adhd, with almost 3 mil in funding... no, no nserc, ssrc, who has 12 grad students... with little bio based research, couldn't take any more on, but well, someone familiar with masters programs tell me how breakable this rule is if your enough of an asset, two of four i'm interested in have two many students, ones also very good, but shares very similar interests, may be glad to have someone on who does stuff at the core of their interests but with a different specialty (they focus on language deficits, and test validity, lots of stuff with direct overlap, and has interest in adhd)... finally new assistant prof where i would have a lot more directive autonomy than first lab, plus bring things to the table of mutual benefit... favoring number 3 right now, since im into well, hippie, egalitarian medicine and a fair shot for everyone, in the true sense... plus this fits niche of us md's i'd like to target... the more multi-dis ones... great post, but research must published in the internasional view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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