Jarven Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 After a rough end to my last semester, I resolved to do far better this semester. But, I'm doing terribly on all my midterms. I've been studying hard for all of them but I seemed to be shamed to do below a 75 What do I do with my life? I don't even feel competent enough to be in a scientific field anymore, let alone being a doctor. I feel no drive to work if i can't even get anything in return. **** life. It would just be easier to jump off a bridge What do I even do with my life after University? We go through four years of hell only to realize that our dreams have hit a dead-end. I should have went into a stupid field like economics or management where I'm guaranteed a job ripping and ****ing people over for the rest of my life just to make money. Feeling extremely incapable and useless. I used to do well. Now my life sucks balls. I would always stare from far, as the people I knew dropped like flies around me in this Academic arms race, opting for compromised goals. I'm that fly now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpatient Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 You go to UofT...that said, figure out why your doing worse...there's not much you can do with a life sci degree, if you don't go to professional school...transfer over to geology/petroleum and go to alberta...lots of money in those oil fields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarven Posted February 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I should have went into engineering. At least, I would have had a good job prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh fry Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Haven't you ever read Dilbert? Engineers suck diddly uck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolelol Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Jeez relax, how far into your undergrad are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exocytosis Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 **** life. It would just be easier to jump off a bridge I hope you don't jump off a bridge, and that you talk to someone who can help if you're feeling that way. It really sucks to get bad marks, since they stick with you forever. But just because your marks suck doesn't mean you do, and it doesn't mean you can't do well in the future. Look into other schools/programs/etc if you're unhappy where you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
souljaboy Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Transfer into engineering. If you know you can't handle the undergrad courses the earlier that you can make that decision the more time and money you save. Some premeds have to go through 4 years of mediocre marks before realizing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenziedmalady Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Many people have had that feeling. Just relax and take a deep breath. From the posts I have read, I see most people who write these stuffs are from UofT. What do you really want to do in the future? Are you extremely interested in med that you eat and breathe medical stuffs and think about it constantly everyday? Or maybe there's other fields you might also be interested as well. Have you explored other options? The process of undergrad is pretty stressful and if you coupled it with trying to get higher marks it can be so much worse. People here have pretty solid advice as to how one can study effectively. One thing I do that has helped me quite a lot is studying and understanding how the prof administers exams. I find the first exams to be quite stressful because there's no way to know how he would make questions and where those questions could come from. After the first exams I always analyze what the prof has focused more. Some profs take their exams from the slides, some focus a lot on the textbook and some a combination of both. I usually skip those classes where I know the prof will just test us on the textbook. But I go to those classes where slides and class discussions are heavily focused on. Good luck but please don't jump off from a bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medigeek Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Just skimmed over this but... OP Why in the hell did you go to UofT for life sci? You realize you're among one of the biggest "scam" programs in Canada? In the sense that they sell you the UofT life sci -> medical school dream? If you're barely pulling 75s at best and mostly getting high 60s/low 70s ... guessing your gpa is 2.5-2.8 range? Which eliminates all the schools in north america, both md and do. Honestly, if you don't like those fields you named and don't have a drive to succeed in them you'll barely even get a job... that's if you're lucky. By that I mean you'll graduate only to be fighting for a 40k/year job. There is no guaranteed job that you just said. There certainly are engineers nowadays who work at starbucks and gas stations, as there are business major grads doing the same. There is a heavy saturation of university grads in the work force, all across north america. If you don't have a field that you know you can succeed in to get that nice job and progress, then save your time.. go learn a skilled trade and just make $$$ asap instead of spending money and time. Go party and enjoy your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpy Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 After a rough end to my last semester, I resolved to do far better this semester. But, I'm doing terribly on all my midterms. I've been studying hard for all of them but I seemed to be shamed to do below a 75 What do I do with my life? I don't even feel competent enough to be in a scientific field anymore, let alone being a doctor. I feel no drive to work if i can't even get anything in return. **** life. It would just be easier to jump off a bridge What do I even do with my life after University? We go through four years of hell only to realize that our dreams have hit a dead-end. I should have went into a stupid field like economics or management where I'm guaranteed a job ripping and ****ing people over for the rest of my life just to make money. Feeling extremely incapable and useless. I used to do well. Now my life sucks balls. I would always stare from far, as the people I knew dropped like flies around me in this Academic arms race, opting for compromised goals. I'm that fly now. Jarven - I just looked back through some of your past posts and it seems like there's a lot of pressure on you and stress in your life. The first thing I'm going to recommend is you go talk to a few people. First, talk to someone you can confide in - a good friend or someone who you know will be there for you (i.e. a residence Don or RA or whatever). Second, I would seek out counselling services on your campus just to touch base about how you're feeling and why you feel the way you do. I can tell you things that will help but the reason I suggest the above is because you're probably not in a place to really hear me. Those things are that you need to take a step back, to realize that you could be happy in a variety of career paths, and that the pressure both you and other sources in your life are putting on you is what is causing you to do poorly. If you were doing what you loved in a more relaxed and balanced way I can promise that you would do better by studying less. Maybe take next year off of school and come back as well (though I realize this would probably be impossible given your parental situation). Are you still living at home? Try to move out. Making a big change and taking time for yourself can provide you with the focus you need to succeed. Continuing on in the same place you're in now is not going to lead to success. Again, the first step before any of that is to make sure there are some strong supports beneath you. Talk to some people and make sure you have whatever resources you need before planning your next move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarven Posted February 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Just skimmed over this but... OP Why in the hell did you go to UofT for life sci? You realize you're among one of the biggest "scam" programs in Canada? In the sense that they sell you the UofT life sci -> medical school dream? If you're barely pulling 75s at best and mostly getting high 60s/low 70s ... guessing your gpa is 2.5-2.8 range? Which eliminates all the schools in north america, both md and do. Honestly, if you don't like those fields you named and don't have a drive to succeed in them you'll barely even get a job... that's if you're lucky. By that I mean you'll graduate only to be fighting for a 40k/year job. There is no guaranteed job that you just said. There certainly are engineers nowadays who work at starbucks and gas stations, as there are business major grads doing the same. There is a heavy saturation of university grads in the work force, all across north america. If you don't have a field that you know you can succeed in to get that nice job and progress, then save your time.. go learn a skilled trade and just make $$$ asap instead of spending money and time. Go party and enjoy your life. Its not that I'm not passionate, I just don't feel competent right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunasly Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 You know, going back I might have considered engineering. You finish in 4 years and you work in the oil fields. Big big money my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medigeek Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Its not that I'm not passionate, I just don't feel competent right now. Then cut your losses, go get a job in whatever, live how your average person does (nonuniversity educated) and focus on enjoying life. If your gpa is already damaged heavily, it's not the most doable thing to spend so many more years trying to fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarven Posted February 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Then cut your losses, go get a job in whatever, live how your average person does (nonuniversity educated) and focus on enjoying life. If your gpa is already damaged heavily, it's not the most doable thing to spend so many more years trying to fix it. My GPA is even that bad (3.8). I'm just tired of the direction this semester is going in and the one that's already behind me. Let's cut it, a 3.5 GPA is indistinguishable from a 2.5 GPA when it comes to medical school. What do you do with your life after. Go to grad school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrocene Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 My GPA is even that bad (3.8). I'm just tired of the direction this semester is going in and the one that's already behind me. Let's cut it, a 3.5 GPA is indistinguishable from a 2.5 GPA when it comes to medical school. What do you do with your life after. Go to grad school? Your 3.8 GPA might make you intellectually competent to go into medical school but your total emotional immaturity over your own personal management and your ridiculous paranoia over a 3.8 GPA is giving me second thoughts about whether I want to have people like you even as my family doctor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarven Posted February 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Your 3.8 GPA might make you intellectually competent to go into medical school but your total emotional immaturity over your own personal management and your ridiculous paranoia over a 3.8 GPA is giving me second thoughts about whether I want to have people like you even as my family doctor... You don't even know me, dude. I may currently have a 3.8 GPA, but should that exclude me from extrapolating my current progress to a highly possible undesired outcome. You must be a genius to deduce that I'm emotionally immature from a few posts over forums on the internet. Want don't you take your head out of your ass before you start labeling people and accusing them of paranoia. What was that about my personal management? Are you in anyway involved in my life or what I do for you to throw your opinions at me like facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medigeek Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 My GPA is even that bad (3.8). I'm just tired of the direction this semester is going in and the one that's already behind me. Let's cut it, a 3.5 GPA is indistinguishable from a 2.5 GPA when it comes to medical school. What do you do with your life after. Go to grad school? You have a 3.8 and you're making this thread? You in the US people get in with 3.3s? Not sure if troll thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medigeek Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 why does everyone assume u of t is so hard? my friend at u of t has a 3.94 GPA and he only studies 6 hours a daylol... you have a 3.8gpa and you're this depressed? if it makes you feel any better, a 79 has also ruined my gpa, and i have the same (3.8) gpa as you. (79, 83, 99, 98, 96) and i also study more than ANYONE. whenever i don't have class i'm in the library studying... it amounts to an average of 3-4+ hours a day (on days with labs) and 6+ hours on weekends... how do you think i feel with such a ****ty GPA for the amount of time i put into studying? seriously, the only thing i've done this semester is eat, ****, study and sleep.. if i ever have kids that want to go into medicine, i'll be the first person to tell them it's not worth the ****ing hell you have to put up with only 6 hours.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarne01 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Take a year off and see if you still feel dedicated to medicine. You might look for related work (i.e. drug company) or do something else entirely (construction). Change your perspective. Consider other schools. When I looked at Trent I couldn't see how I would ever apply content to [my] life, but the learning styles at Guelph and Queen's were a better fit. Look at your options - there might be a program or courses at another school that catch your interest and get you motivated again. I'm also going to +1 counselling. It sounds like you need someone to listen and help you figure out your goals and motivations. There is no shame in getting help and its always better to do it early, it just saves time! There should also be a program at U of T to get help with your study skills. Going to office hours helps me when I hit a plateau or can't figure out the prof's priorities for an exam, but everyone's different. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medigeek Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Take a year off and see if you still feel dedicated to medicine. You might look for related work (i.e. drug company) or do something else entirely (construction). Change your perspective. Consider other schools. When I looked at Trent I couldn't see how I would ever apply content to [my] life, but the learning styles at Guelph and Queen's were a better fit. Look at your options - there might be a program or courses at another school that catch your interest and get you motivated again. I'm also going to +1 counselling. It sounds like you need someone to listen and help you figure out your goals and motivations. There is no shame in getting help and its always better to do it early, it just saves time! There should also be a program at U of T to get help with your study skills. Going to office hours helps me when I hit a plateau or can't figure out the prof's priorities for an exam, but everyone's different. Good luck Horrible advice. With his gpa he is a disgrace to academics and he should not ever consider anything related to education ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UofTkid Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Take a year off and see if you still feel dedicated to medicine. You might look for related work (i.e. drug company) or do something else entirely (construction). Change your perspective. Consider other schools. When I looked at Trent I couldn't see how I would ever apply content to [my] life, but the learning styles at Guelph and Queen's were a better fit. Look at your options - there might be a program or courses at another school that catch your interest and get you motivated again. I'm also going to +1 counselling. It sounds like you need someone to listen and help you figure out your goals and motivations. There is no shame in getting help and its always better to do it early, it just saves time! There should also be a program at U of T to get help with your study skills. Going to office hours helps me when I hit a plateau or can't figure out the prof's priorities for an exam, but everyone's different. Good luck those who do construction just have high school diploma, with some1 with 4 years education at the top of H.S, is gonna do construction? when some1 with a university degree gets out to do menial jobs, they might have trouble to get along with those who just belong in life-suc**** menial jobs, cuz that person is of high caliber and is just wasting his time around those poeple who never accessed their brain to find its highest potential. not getting into grad/medschool doesn't necessarily kicks an individual back into the group of people who never did any post-secondary education. to the OP, you need to watch some motivational videos, last semester I got, two 79's. I quit my job and now taking 6 courses. got 4 midterms before reading week. Just gonna sleep in school for next three days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByrdPac Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Horrible advice. With his gpa he is a disgrace to academics and he should not ever consider anything related to education ever again. You can't dash someone's dream like that. I had a 3.4 GPA in 2nd year and now I have 2 maybe 3 interviews. He needs to reevaluate he motivations in life and where he is going. That being said UofT is a hard university no doubt because it attracts high quality students out of highschool then they see a 15-20% drop from their HS average. That being said getting into medicine isn't the end of life. Its only the beginning just because you a doctor, doesn't make u immune from the hardships of starting, mainting and nurturing family after med and rez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 You can't dash someone's dream like that. I had a 3.4 GPA in 2nd year and now I have 2 maybe 3 interviews. He needs to reevaluate he motivations in life and where he is going. That being said UofT is a hard university no doubt because it attracts high quality students out of highschool then they see a 15-20% drop from their HS average. That being said getting into medicine isn't the end of life. Its only the beginning just because you a doctor, doesn't make u immune from the hardships of starting, mainting and nurturing family after med and rez. He's being Faticious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagan Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 After a rough end to my last semester, I resolved to do far better this semester. But, I'm doing terribly on all my midterms. I've been studying hard for all of them but I seemed to be shamed to do below a 75 What do I do with my life? I don't even feel competent enough to be in a scientific field anymore, let alone being a doctor. I feel no drive to work if i can't even get anything in return. **** life. It would just be easier to jump off a bridge What do I even do with my life after University? We go through four years of hell only to realize that our dreams have hit a dead-end. I should have went into a stupid field like economics or management where I'm guaranteed a job ripping and ****ing people over for the rest of my life just to make money. Feeling extremely incapable and useless. I used to do well. Now my life sucks balls. I would always stare from far, as the people I knew dropped like flies around me in this Academic arms race, opting for compromised goals. I'm that fly now. I've been where you are now. Constantly questioning my abilities, hating school, hating life in general... trust me, it wasn't productive. I just ended up more depressed and unmotivated than ever. My marks dropped despite all my worrying. Instead of hating your situation, look for ways to change it. I recommend you either: 1) Change your major --> opt for an easier program (Forget about honors/specialist programs. Med schools just want to see that you have a 4 year degree.) 2) Switch to another university Its not you; its the environment you are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axialpac Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 He's being Faticious You mean . . . facetious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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