depressed_premed_forever Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I am not feeling very optimistic about my UBC admission status and it's really annoying because I have to complete both english and physics pre-reqs before April 30th or whatever I am OOP and received an interview with agpa of 89.15% and 30S MCAT (don't ask, even I was surprised) I guess my NAQ helped? However having gone through many of the past threads and realizing that UBC doesn't give a crap about NAQ after the interview makes me feel really discouraged. I guess the interview was alright..... I didn't feel horrible about any of my answers. It was my first interview so I have nothing to compare it to. I also don't think I will be receiving anymore interviews elsewhere this year at least....... Do you guys think I should just accept the fact that I am going to be outright rejected come May 15 or is there some hope for me? Sorry for this depressing post, just wanted to hear some opinions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimism101 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I've been feeling kind of the same. I have an aGPA of 84.8%, and a 30Q MCAT, though I am IP. I think my stats are pretty borderline, and it was my NAQ that really helped get the interview. Now that the interview is done, I feel it went well but that I could probably have done better. Looking through old posts of acceptances, you don't see tons of people getting accepted with grades/MCAT similar to mine. But, nothing we can do now except wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genemo Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I have the same depression...I thought I screwed up half of my interviews and the other half were just so so I honestly feel really bad when I saw the other thread where people talked about how good they were during the interview....not that I dont like them being happy but I just feel very sad myself but NAQ will help, from my last year's rejection experience I can tell you this for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimism101 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 but NAQ will help, from my last year's rejection experience I can tell you this for sure Even after the interview? I thought they no longer considered NAQ post interview. I guess no one really knows for sure anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzapizza Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I think you guys need to have a little optimism. If you get rejected, then you know what you need to work on for next year, whether it's improving your interview skills or whatever. If you get accepted, then wonderful. Everything is behind you now. Literally nothing you do now will change your fate on May 15th, unless you go to jail, or win the lottery, or marry Kate Upton. So embrace that weight being lifted of your shoulders and focus on what's going on in your life now. Learn from your mistakes but don't dwell on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medplease Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I think you guys need to have a little optimism. If you get rejected, then you know what you need to work on for next year, whether it's improving your interview skills or whatever. If you get accepted, then wonderful. Everything is behind you now. Literally nothing you do now will change your fate on May 15th, unless you go to jail, or win the lottery, or marry Kate Upton. So embrace that weight being lifted of your shoulders and focus on what's going on in your life now. Learn from your mistakes but don't dwell on them. I agree we shouldn't dwell on our mistakes, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamham Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I honestly feel really bad when I saw the other thread where people talked about how good they were during the interview....not that I dont like them being happy but I just feel very sad myself Don't feel bad... I can tell you, from personal as well as friends' experiences that one's feelings after the interview are not an accurate picture of how one did in the interview. It is naturally to think that you have aced the interview, but more often than not, it is simply b/c you are happy you have completed the interview itself. Also, there are a lot of pple around who simply cannot see their own flaws. Blinded by their own egos/pride, they simply thought that their answers are the best w/o considering the fact that in reality, that may not be the case. Bottomline: I hope you feel better. As long as you feel that you have tried your best, you shd have no regrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
med-dream Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I have the same depression...I thought I screwed up half of my interviews and the other half were just so soI honestly feel really bad when I saw the other thread where people talked about how good they were during the interview....not that I dont like them being happy but I just feel very sad myself but NAQ will help, from my last year's rejection experience I can tell you this for sure Did you mean NAQ will still help at post-interview stage? Somebody posted a thread guessing that they will only look at GPA/MCAT/Interview scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
med-dream Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I've been feeling kind of the same. I have an aGPA of 84.8%, and a 30Q MCAT, though I am IP. I think my stats are pretty borderline, and it was my NAQ that really helped get the interview. Now that the interview is done, I feel it went well but that I could probably have done better. Looking through old posts of acceptances, you don't see tons of people getting accepted with grades/MCAT similar to mine. But, nothing we can do now except wait! Your condition may be better than mine: 82% GPA, 36 MCAT. NAO helped a lot to get the interview. 3 stations feeling well including acting station, 1 or 2 felt bad, the rest unknown. Had a chance talking to the volunteers at the rest station about the different sites, got some idea on the site preference. Now have to work on the current study trying to bring GPA higher at the end of this year for next year's application cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genemo Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Did you mean NAQ will still help at post-interview stage? Somebody posted a thread guessing that they will only look at GPA/MCAT/Interview scores. Oh...hmmmmm last year i had bad GPA, above average NAQ, normal MCAT and terrible interview i was waitlisted to the last minute... i dont know what kept me on the wait list...either the NAQ or the MCAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimism101 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Oh...hmmmmmlast year i had bad GPA, above average NAQ, normal MCAT and terrible interview i was waitlisted to the last minute... i dont know what kept me on the wait list...either the NAQ or the MCAT Mind posting your stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy303 Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 I am not feeling very optimistic about my UBC admission status and it's really annoying because I have to complete both english and physics pre-reqs before April 30th or whatever I am OOP and received an interview with agpa of 86.15% and 30S MCAT (don't ask, even I was surprised) I guess my NAQ helped? However having gone through many of the past threads and realizing that UBC doesn't give a crap about NAQ after the interview makes me feel really discouraged. I guess the interview was alright..... I didn't feel horrible about any of my answers. It was my first interview so I have nothing to compare it to. I also don't think I will be receiving anymore interviews elsewhere this year at least....... Do you guys think I should just accept the fact that I am going to be outright rejected come May 15 or is there some hope for me? Sorry for this depressing post, just wanted to hear some opinions you dont know anything about how UBC uses NAQ or AQ or anything. Anyone can get in... I was close-minded about this in the past, but over the years I have seen so many interesting admissions decisions and events that nothing surprises me anymore. Everyone feels like crap after the interview, you are not special in this sense. All the pre-meds I met at the cafe and MSAC felt this way... With this said, you'll probably get accepted. Best of luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy303 Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 Even after the interview? I thought they no longer considered NAQ post interview. I guess no one really knows for sure anyway? Take it from me. Don't believe everything you read. Post-interview anything can happen, you are being hand picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economist Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 Oh...hmmmmmlast year i had bad GPA, above average NAQ, normal MCAT and terrible interview i was waitlisted to the last minute... i dont know what kept me on the wait list...either the NAQ or the MCAT Do you know for sure you had a terrible interview? Was your score below-average? Because I know people who got above average interview and was waitlisted... so it doesn't make sense that people with below average interview would be waitlisted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genemo Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 Mind posting your stats? my interview was below average...GPA 84ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genemo Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 Do you know for sure you had a terrible interview? Was your score below-average? Because I know people who got above average interview and was waitlisted... so it doesn't make sense that people with below average interview would be waitlisted below average yay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimism101 Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 my interview was below average...GPA 84ish MCAT? Sorry to ask so many questions, but I have a similar GPA, so I'm trying to figure out realistically what my chances are. My MCAT is 30Q, was yours better or worse than that? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genemo Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 MCAT? Sorry to ask so many questions, but I have a similar GPA, so I'm trying to figure out realistically what my chances are. My MCAT is 30Q, was yours better or worse than that? Thanks! my MCAT is higher than you but unbalanced scores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3launch Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Waitlisted last year as well, and have basically identical stats as you, Genemo... 83.5% average, with 30Q mcat, interview score average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genemo Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Waitlisted last year as well, and have basically identical stats as you, Genemo... 83.5% average, with 30Q mcat, interview score average. hmmmm interesting!!! Lots of people who got a rejection right after interview had way better stats than mine...i wonder what is in it I didnt do well on this years interview again...im depressed to extreme now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREGtotheHOUSE Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 hmmmm interesting!!! Lots of people who got a rejection right after interview had way better stats than mine...i wonder what is in it I didnt do well on this years interview again...im depressed to extreme now... stay well Genemo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genemo Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 stay well Genemo Thanks....I'm trying hard to stay positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 you dont know anything about how UBC uses NAQ or AQ or anything. Anyone can get in... I was close-minded about this in the past, but over the years I have seen so many interesting admissions decisions and events that nothing surprises me anymore. I too have heard horror (.. or dream come true ) stories about interesting admission decisions. One of my friends that recently graduated from UT Med told me of a classmate that interviewed at every school in Canada 4-5 years ago and was accepted by all EXCEPT UBC. For residency interviews, he went on to get interviews at every radiology residency in Canada (that he applied for) and also interviews with Harvard & Duke Radiology programs in the States. I think there was obviously a mistake in not accepting this individual for the undergrad med program. On the flip side, there have been very questionable admissions to the UBC MD program as well that I have heard of from various applicants in the past. From the socially awkward to the rude to the elitist personalities, all getting in one way or another. Having read the forums a lot now, and discussing this with other applicants who have gotten in (or not), I do have a general picture in my mind of what a 'crap-shoot' it must feel like. This does open the possibility to those who feel they had terrible interviews, ultimately get accepted. my interview was below average...GPA 84ish Genemo, you really had a below-average interview and got waitlisted? If this is the case, then maybe some factors we did not previously consider played a role in this case... maybe our reference letters do play a big role that we were previously unaware of? Personally... I feel I had a few really good ones, a few really bad ones, and a bunch of average ones. Although, the more I dwell on the answers I gave, even the really good ones seem to give me chills down my spine occasionally on how stupid I could have potentially sounded. I hope, I am one of those one-off mistake applicants that gets accepted... either that, or just a really stellar applicant (although I highly doubt it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lsm-8 Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 I too have heard horror (.. or dream come true ) stories about interesting admission decisions. One of my friends that recently graduated from UT Med told me of a classmate that interviewed at every school in Canada 4-5 years ago and was accepted by all EXCEPT UBC. For residency interviews, he went on to get interviews at every radiology residency in Canada (that he applied for) and also interviews with Harvard & Duke Radiology programs in the States. I think there was obviously a mistake in not accepting this individual for the undergrad med program. On the flip side, there have been very questionable admissions to the UBC MD program as well that I have heard of from various applicants in the past. From the socially awkward to the rude to the elitist personalities, all getting in one way or another. Having read the forums a lot now, and discussing this with other applicants who have gotten in (or not), I do have a general picture in my mind of what a 'crap-shoot' it must feel like. This does open the possibility to those who feel they had terrible interviews, ultimately get accepted. Genemo, you really had a below-average interview and got waitlisted? If this is the case, then maybe some factors we did not previously consider played a role in this case... maybe our reference letters do play a big role that we were previously unaware of? Personally... I feel I had a few really good ones, a few really bad ones, and a bunch of average ones. Although, the more I dwell on the answers I gave, even the really good ones seem to give me chills down my spine occasionally on how stupid I could have potentially sounded. I hope, I am one of those one-off mistake applicants that gets accepted... either that, or just a really stellar applicant (although I highly doubt it). I'm not sure if I am missing something here, but something must be going on with UBC admissions if Genemo was in fact waitlisted despite having a below average interview last year... The only reason I bring this up is because last year my GPA was >90% (50/50 AQ) and my NAQ was also high (over 40/50) and I was rejected last spring with no waitlist offers of any type (my interview was scored "below average"). I have always assumed that if you receive a "below average" interview, you will not be offered a spot whatsoever. My TFR score (over 90) should have in theory got be a waitlist offer if other people with lower GPA's get waitlisted?? Perhaps the quality of the references does play a role? Or perhaps the "below average" interviews are scaled -- the lowest interview performances are rejected outright and the "borderline low to average" interviews still allow one to be waitlisted. This theory is the one that makes the most sense to me. I wouldn't doubt that UBC records and compares "how poorly" a "below average" interview performance really is among applicants. This is all very interesting indeed, makes one really wonder what goes on at UBC behind closed doors. However, in any case, I admit this is all just speculation on my part and it is also something that is totally out of our control at this point. All we can do is remember that we gave it our best effort and hope it all works out in the end!! We will all find out on May 15th how we did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 I'm thinking reference letters play a role as well. I scored above average on the interview, grades were almost stock on average for the interview pool, and above average NAQ (almost ~38?). My MCAT was slightly under the average, but not by much. Last year one of my references was from where I was working as I thought it was a requirement. The place I worked had nothing to do with health care and didn't do anything for my application, but it paid decently. I found out after that fact that it had spelling and grammatical errors because they could not write well! I have learned to always ask tons of questions of reference writers...this year all my references are strong and positive and relate to medicine, community, or academic work. I hope that does the trick! At some point the admissions committee makes hard decisions about applicants that may be similar to one another. On paper I am sure some of us look pretty near identical. A lot of hard work and some luck I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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