TaRoEl Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Oscar Pistorus accused of murdering his gf. Thoughts? I can't post the link since I'm on a phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 What is it in the character of many top level athletes that they feel entitlement to break the law? He was crying in court, but not for her. In the case of Tiger, not only did he have no moral code, his whole world - except for his wife - knew of his numerous affairs. Like Lance Armstrong (who also acted illegally), he did it in the open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 I can only imagine serving life in a South African prison must be unpleasant. He has effectively forfeited his life too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzle Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 poor him, poor gf, poor everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixFlare500 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 What is it in the character of many top level athletes that they feel entitlement to break the law? He was crying in court, but not for her. In the case of Tiger, not only did he have no moral code, his whole world - except for his wife - knew of his numerous affairs. Like Lance Armstrong (who also acted illegally), he did it in the open. I doubt top level athletes are more likely to break the law, it's just more publicized when they do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 I doubt top level athletes are more likely to break the law, it's just more publicized when they do it. For sure, they get more publicity but it just seems to me they have a feeling of entitlement given their power and money. Many celebrities feel they are above the law and the codes of conduct that apply to the rest of us just don't apply to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 What do you mean? I'm not from South Africa. I have never been to S.A. also but I imagine their prisons are not up to our standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFellow Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 For sure, they get more publicity but it just seems to me they have a feeling of entitlement given their power and money. Many celebrities feel they are above the law and the codes of conduct that apply to the rest of us just don't apply to them. The sad thing is, as some of them have shown; they are above a lot of laws. See: Lindsay Lohan It's even worse for politicians, I mean even Nixon got a pardon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Nixon was pardoned b/c he was President, and they did not want someone from that office behind bars. I think his V.P. ended up in jail. There was someone in the sportts world who knows the accused well, only on a professional level though. He remarked that no high level athlete should ever possess a gun, b/c they are a different breed of people where anything can happen. The poor girl who was murdered. And the accused has painted a sympathetic case thus far. It will be interesting how it plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleverusername Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 For sure, they get more publicity but it just seems to me they have a feeling of entitlement given their power and money. Many celebrities feel they are above the law and the codes of conduct that apply to the rest of us just don't apply to them. Your opinions are rarely based on reality. I'll make this short: You're basing your opinion on a small sample of delinquent atheltes and celebrities who have had highly publicized misconducts. Also, the media portrays these people as thinking they're above the law. You're forgetting people like Morgan Freeman, Wayne Gretzky, Sean Connery and NUMEROUS others who have never had a run in with the law and have been more than respectable despite being in the public eye for the majority of their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markov79 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 didn't sean connery's wife allege that he domestically abused her? granted, that's not a run in with the law per se, but that allegation is pretty serious, no? edit: and i realize if we're going to play percentages, yeah, more celebs will not get into legal trouble than will. i just thought it was ironic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleverusername Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 didn't sean connery's wife allege that he domestically abused her? granted, that's not a run in with the law per se, but that allegation is pretty serious, no? Accusations don't prove anything, but even then I'll grant that that's something we'll chalk up to an offence. I could easily substitute someone elses name in place of Connerys or even 100 others. The sample of people who don't offend is much greater than the ones who do. The point was the people I named were not delinquent people with prima dona complexes. I hadn't heard anything bad about Connery which is why I used him as an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Your opinions are rarely based on reality. I'll make this short: You're basing your opinion on a small sample of delinquent atheltes and celebrities who have had highly publicized misconducts. Also, the media portrays these people as thinking they're above the law. You're forgetting people like Morgan Freeman, Wayne Gretzky, Sean Connery and NUMEROUS others who have never had a run in with the law and have been more than respectable despite being in the public eye for the majority of their lives. Agreed and likely comparable to what you'd find in general society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleverusername Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 didn't sean connery's wife allege that he domestically abused her? granted, that's not a run in with the law per se, but that allegation is pretty serious, no? edit: and i realize if we're going to play percentages, yeah, more celebs will not get into legal trouble than will. i just thought it was ironic. Not only are the number who don't get in trouble more than the ones who do. It's not nearly as prevalent as people think for the ones who do. Did you know that crime has been decreasing and becoming less violent in Toronto (I think it's actually one of the safest cities in Canada according to the study), especially violent crime, but people's perceptions of crime have been that things are getting more violent and numerous. This perception is due to the fact that media exposure of crime has increased substantially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPhilster Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 He shot her 4 times. Who the heck shoots a suspected home invader 4 times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleverusername Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 He shot her 4 times. Who the heck shoots a suspected home invader 4 times? Depends on the circumstances. Did they say he knew his first shot or two hit her? There's a difference between him firing off a few rapid shots in perceived self defence and him calculatingly picking apart someone with several spaced out shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Your opinions are rarely based on reality Welcome to the forum newbie especially for your contribution and opinions that are valued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Lead Police Investigator finds himself being charged with attempted murder. Defense argues this not a case of premeditation and continue to argue for bail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 The bail hearing has been delayed while courtroom is being cleared due to some threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleverusername Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Welcome to the forum newbie especially for your contribution and opinions that are valued. Lol, you're pathetic. Pulling rank on a forum. I fear for your patients. Your level of delusion about yourself and the medical profession is alarming. Please seek help and stop posting about every conceivable topic on the forum with your insane ideas. I know a number of forumers on here who also think you're a lunatic. I'm just the "Newbie" telling you. o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Hey newbie, pathetic means pitifully inferior or inadequate. If the shoe fits, wear it. troublemakers don 't last long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleverusername Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Hey newbie, pathetic means pitifully inferior or inadequate. If the shoe fits, wear it. troublemakers don 't last long. ....pulling rank makes you inferior because you don't criticize what I'm saying but instead attack my status. It's a form of ad hom arguing and is a fallacy, therefore it is inferior because it is illogical. And furthermore, the fact that you have to resort to that on a meaningless ranking such as seniority status on a public forum on the internet makes it that much more nonsensical. But hey, what does the "newbie" know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 ....pulling rank makes you inferior because you don't criticize what I'm saying but instead attack my status. It's a form of ad hom arguing and is a fallacy, therefore it is inferior because it is illogical. And furthermore, the fact that you have to resort to that on a meaningless ranking such as seniority status on a public forum on the internet makes it that much more nonsensical. But hey, what does the "newbie" know? So, the hater wants to play. But not play nice. The term newbie is not derogatory, I was a newbie here to begin with, every new member is a newbie. Pulling rank is a figment of your imagination. You the attacker claim I am attacking your status, how pathetic. Only the insecure would feel that way. Trolls and haters, of which you are one, come and go, so get in line. Your attack posts and name calling speak loudly of whom and what you are and if your parents saw their daughter stooping to this level they would be ashamed of you. But, you are anonymous, so go ahead hateful troll, you are creating quite the reputation for yourself. In fact, you sound so familiar, your clever username may not be your first user name nor your last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 well... statement one is extrapolatory, since you can't judge whether the ad hominem was a rhetorical technique... using an intentional faux paux to show you're not worth arguing with, i usually respond in a nuanced manner, but often use one liners, which juxtaposes my style so diametrically, that it paints one as not even being worth the long winded responses i usuaully just retort with for my own ends... ad hominems don't insinuate inferiority in debate, i love to use brute force and my breadth to paint the emotional intentions of a person, since i can extrapolate conclussions to a human manner they're incapable off because they have no knowledge base in multiple areas i do... and i'll extrapolate that to the human or economic consequences... sometimes it's sort of like... i have 5000 posts in 2.5 years, and i post when i'm doing other work... and the word count is at least 500-1000 on most posts... i could pull seniority very effectively... but the extrapolation of seniority, in that case, is the volumioumous ammount of material i can procure leads on to extrapolate that i'm... since i'm sure i have the highest word count by far on the site... ad hominems can actually be very telling... say in the case of adler, or Nietzsche... where their lives very much shaped their philosophy... you should also elaborate on the internet forums lack of assurance, based on a volumetric measure... that one is intellectually sound... logic leaps... at least when i do them it's to avoid making 8 posts to show my point... you make them even with simplistic retorts... honestly, i dont give a ****... i'm just playing some blink right now tbh... ironically, it's cheering me up from the fact that there's nothing challenging on bass at all... i need to get me a baritone guitar with some 13 guages... i should put an ad on kijiji... ****, guitarists half as a good as i am on bass are a dime a dozen, bassists that can hold down 64th notes are amazing, i could prob even get paid... ill bring in my octave and can pull a death from above thing, and play some josh homme solos on bass... my god... is that a diminished chord on a bass... holy ****ing arpeggio... that's like over my head by the fray except 4 times as fast... yeah, still love that song though ....pulling rank makes you inferior because you don't criticize what I'm saying but instead attack my status. It's a form of ad hom arguing and is a fallacy, therefore it is inferior because it is illogical. And furthermore, the fact that you have to resort to that on a meaningless ranking such as seniority status on a public forum on the internet makes it that much more nonsensical. But hey, what does the "newbie" know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 You insist upon demeaning yourself by calling me names. This is no doubt due to your immaturity and hopefully, this will pass in time, you will cease to be an attacker, hostile and and so aggresive, and will become an honour to our profession. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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