missmathematics Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Why mcgill? what is special about the curriculum, etc.? I have done some research and I have trouble coming up with answers. The website barely has any information. From what I understand, there are just lectures and no pbl, but I feel that there must be more to it. Can anyone comment? Please and thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feversugar Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 I doubt that anyone can comment about the education, because starting next year there is an ENTIRELY new curriculum in place. But there is the classic spiel about the reputation and international recognition of the school, amazing campus and the opportunity to be taught by renown doctors and teachers. There are also research opportunities aplenty, and of course the student life, comprising 4938042 (ok I made that up, but there are a lot) interest groups and clubs. A lot of McGill alumni have a lot of pride and often come back to talk about what they've accomplished (which in general are great things). We had one of the co-founders of Lasik MD come talk to us a few months ago and it was really interesting. Also promised McGill med students a discount, but I don't know if that was a joke or not, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmathematics Posted February 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 New curriculum??? Is there a link to this?? thank you for your insight!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Take a peek of this link in case it gives insight. It suggests exposure to patients earlier. http://www.medicine.mcgill.ca/deptmedicine/pubs/TowardaNewCurriculum_final2013.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Will the curriculum actually change next year? I believe some heated debates have been happening, never to confirm that changes will be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxime Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 I know the curriculum is getting a lot of changes, having heard about this a little earlier this year while teaching med students from a very reliable source.. . Supposed to be much more clinical in pre-clerkship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journey Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 There is indeed a new curriculum next year (for people entering Med-1 next year). Basically, there will be actual patient exposure from the first month of Med-1 (instead of from mid-Med-2, as is currently the case). Students will be paired with a Doctor and will assist them for a full afternoon every two weeks. Also, all theoretical classes will be in the morning, and the afternoons will be dedicated to small groups ("APP" in french) and things like that. They also redesigned the units (pre-clerkship) so that they are better integrated with each other (a.k.a. not individual blocks that you cram and forget right after the exam). It looks great to be honest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaded_envy Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I'm sorry, so the curriculum is new for students entering medical school in August 2014, or August 2013? I thought it was August 2013? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feversugar Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I think they will change it. Each teacher at the end of their section tells us ad nauseum that they may not be back to teach this material next year and that it'll be a shame. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick1234 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 hey, any current mcgill med students willing to help practice via skype? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samy Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 The new curriculum was supposed to be implanted in 2012 for the 2016 promotion, but the faculty decided to wait for the next promotion. I heard that students will be paired with GPs. I think its a great thing : the young students will learn early to auscultate, take BP and to a partial to complete physical exam, take a history early on.... The lack of early clinical exposure is something I and my classmates complained a lot during Med1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journey Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I'm sorry, so the curriculum is new for students entering medical school in August 2014, or August 2013? I thought it was August 2013? It will affect the students who enter Med-1 next year (a.k.a. people entering Med-1 in August 2013) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttttt Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 McGill offers a great exposure in clerkship. No matter wherever we go for electives, we are always commented of being strog clerks with good knowledge and management skills. This would probably be what I consider the strongest point of the program, because at the end of the day, you want to match to your specialty of choice. Of course, there are many things you will enjoy being at Mcgill. I will just try to list a few that comes up in my mind. 1. Great people, good vibe in the class, very nice social life 2. Great supervisors for research, world-known experts! 3. Lots of clinical responsibilities early on! Lots of hands on experience, exposure for surgical specilties! 4. Great city to live in for 4 years! If you are a city person, come to Mtl! 5. Bilingual culture, unique in Canada 6. Diverse population, lots of common things+ weird and wonderful! 7. Anatomy dissection class which is amazing if you aim for surgical specialties! 8. One month vacation during your CaRMS tour! (interview month for residency!) 9. Lots of elective time compare to rest of Qc or the rest of country! It makes you much more prepared for CaRMS! 10. New curriculum coming in! (this would keep us up-to-date with rest of the country!) so I onlu gave you points about clerkship because I have no idea of the new pre-clerk classes. Good luck! Current med-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgol1988 Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 After the interviews Micheal Dansereau showed a typical week for the incoming class of 2017 and it was basically class from 830-12 (M-F) and for the afternoon, they divide the class into 5 groups and each group rotates between having to shadow a family doctor, small groups, activities at the simulation center, pbl sessions and there's one afternoon off a week if im not mistaken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okazaki123 Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 More information on the new curriculum is available here: http://www.mcgill.ca/new-mdcm/ Here is a pdf of the new curriculum schema: http://www.mcgill.ca/new-mdcm/sites/mcgill.ca.new-mdcm/files/cc_new_curriculum_schema_mar_25_2013.pdf Can anyone comment on the current grading system at McGill during pre-clinical years? Is it pass/fail? Are students internally ranked? It seems as though when the new curriculum is implemented this fall, the grading for pre-clinical years will be pass/fail/honours. "The final grades will be noted as either pass, fail or honours. Students must pass each of the components (i.e. a minimum grade of 60% for each component) to pass the block. To obtain honours, students must have an overall score in the top 5 percentile." (http://www.mcgill.ca/new-mdcm/program-components/fundamentals-medicine-and-dentistry) I was wondering if that is consistent with the current grading system or if it will be a new implementation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feversugar Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 More information on the new curriculum is available here: http://www.mcgill.ca/new-mdcm/ Here is a pdf of the new curriculum schema: http://www.mcgill.ca/new-mdcm/sites/mcgill.ca.new-mdcm/files/cc_new_curriculum_schema_mar_25_2013.pdf Can anyone comment on the current grading system at McGill during pre-clinical years? Is it pass/fail? Are students internally ranked? It seems as though when the new curriculum is implemented this fall, the grading for pre-clinical years will be pass/fail/honours. "The final grades will be noted as either pass, fail or honours. Students must pass each of the components (i.e. a minimum grade of 60% for each component) to pass the block. To obtain honours, students must have an overall score in the top 5 percentile." (http://www.mcgill.ca/new-mdcm/program-components/fundamentals-medicine-and-dentistry) I was wondering if that is consistent with the current grading system or if it will be a new implementation. Consistent with current Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clover_236 Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Consistent with current Feversugar, I thought the current curriculum was pass/fail only?? I was a bit surprised that only the top 5% getting honors, in other university like U of T (back when they had H/P/F, honors was given to anyone getting >80%) and in the few other med schools that use honors in pre-clerckship, I think the top 10-15% of the class get it. Its an interesting approach from McGill, it'll cool to know their rationale behind it;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okazaki123 Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Feversugar, I thought the current curriculum was pass/fail only?? I was a bit surprised that only the top 5% getting honors, in other university like U of T (back when they had H/P/F, honors was given to anyone getting >80%) and in the few other med schools that use honors in pre-clerckship, I think the top 10-15% of the class get it. Its an interesting approach from McGill, it'll cool to know their rationale behind it;) I also thought it was only P/F. I just found this off of their website (not sure how current it is) "The Faculty of Medicine is on a modified Pass/Fail system. Numeric grades and class rankings are not recorded on official transcripts or in the Medical Student Performance Record (MSPR/Dean’s Letter)." http://www.medicine.mcgill.ca/ugme/academicpolicies/evalpromo_transcripts_en.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feversugar Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 I'm pretty certain that numerical grades are recorded for dean's list purposes (they told us this at orientation on the first day). It is used for scholarships though, so it's unclear if it shows up anywhere. I personally know someone who was granted a renewable scholarship in Med-P as long as he was in the Dean's list every year (aka implying that there is a dean's list in medicine, thus requiring ranks). I have heard that it will show up in the dean's letter at the end of BOM as you being on the dean's list (but not your grade of course). Although I cannot say for sure, it's just something I heard. I also was told it was the top 10%, not 5%, so maybe that's different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clover_236 Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 I also thought it was only P/F. I just found this off of their website (not sure how current it is) "The Faculty of Medicine is on a modified Pass/Fail system. Numeric grades and class rankings are not recorded on official transcripts or in the Medical Student Performance Record (MSPR/Dean’s Letter)." http://www.medicine.mcgill.ca/ugme/academicpolicies/evalpromo_transcripts_en.htm I’m not a 100% sure, though I think that they are likely going for the pass/fail/honours approach this year as mentioned in the 'new curriculum' link. The other link I believe is from last year (it was last edited in Oct 2012). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipstream Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 I kind of like the idea of honours, but I really hope it doesn't make it super competitive... I was really looking forward to the more collaborative nature of med school versus premed. Also, top 5% of the class ! That's gotta be pretty intense to even achieve in the first place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samy Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 The only difference one will see on your transcript if you get honours is a * near the Pass for Basics/Fundamentals of Medicine. You get a bursary I think. You need to get more than 90-95 overall for each unit which is very difficult sometimes when a huge amount of your mark is from small groups and is evaluated subjectivelly. ( small group leaders rarely give more than 90 and it varies a lot you also have no control at all) I quickly realized it was too much effort for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clover_236 Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Thank you samy and feversugar for clarifying! This indeed seems like a lot of work for an asterisk LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feversugar Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 well, it gives you bragging rights I suppose! hahah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipstream Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 well, it gives you bragging rights I suppose! hahah. Loool, I feel like it's designed for that kid in the back row who slacks off all year, but then hits 100s on the exams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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