YorkMedzz Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Hey, I have really bad schedule next week. 1 midterm on Wednesday +lab. 1 on Thursday and 2 on Friday. I was wondering if I should defer one of my midterms on Friday, which is calculus. I mean would the departments be able to know that I wrote one but not the other. I have Calculus in the morning at 9:30 and Psychology in the afternoon at 2:30. Would I get caught for cheating or something if I defer the calc one? I go to York University, Keele campus if anyone is familiar with this type of stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intrepid86 Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Hey,I have really bad schedule next week. 1 midterm on Wednesday +lab. 1 on Thursday and 2 on Friday. I was wondering if I should defer one of my midterms on Friday, which is calculus. I mean would the departments be able to know that I wrote one but not the other. I have Calculus in the morning at 9:30 and Psychology in the afternoon at 2:30. Would I get caught for cheating or something if I defer the calc one? I go to York University, Keele campus if anyone is familiar with this type of stuff I'm not sure how it works at York, but I think you'll need to give them a real reason for putting off an exam (e.g., conflicting exam times, or more than 2 exams on the same day). Also think about it this way... would deferring calc one day (for example) really make a difference to your grade? Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 They have a way of finding out at UofT. I know of at least one person who failed the course because the deferral was not granted (since there was evidence the person was on campus on the day of the exam- contrary to the medical note) Personally, I would just write it. Deferring exams is just not the way to go- you're simply putting off the misery to a later time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkMedzz Posted February 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 They have a way of finding out at UofT. I know of at least one person who failed the course because the deferral was not granted (since there was evidence the person was on campus on the day of the exam- contrary to the medical note) Personally, I would just write it. Deferring exams is just not the way to go- you're simply putting off the misery to a later time. I know from the course syllabus that If I defer this exam then the other midterms and my final gets weighted more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkMedzz Posted February 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I'm not sure how it works at York, but I think you'll need to give them a real reason for putting off an exam (e.g., conflicting exam times, or more than 2 exams on the same day). Also think about it this way... would deferring calc one day (for example) really make a difference to your grade? Probably not. I was planning to get a sick-note or something from a doctor. From what I've heard its not to hard. I just don't think theres anyway I can write my calc midterm and still do well on it. I know I can get the deferral for sure, but Im afraid that they might figure out later that I wrote one midterm in the morning and I skipped the one in the afternoon for which I got the deferral, which would put me in a very sticky situation. I definitely don't want an academic dishonesty issue or failing the course or something like that on my transcript. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I was planning to get a sick-note or something from a doctor. From what I've heard its not to hard. I just don't think theres anyway I can write my calc midterm and still do well on it. I know I can get the deferral for sure, but Im afraid that they might figure out later that I wrote one midterm in the morning and I skipped the one in the afternoon for which I got the deferral, which would put me in a very sticky situation. I definitely don't want an academic dishonesty issue or failing the course or something like that on my transcript. Academic dishonesty extends further than what shows up on your transcript. The measure of a man us not what he does when people are watching but rather what he does when no one is watching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonney Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Dafuq Man up and do your 2 midterms I had 5 finals in 4 days last winter session and I didn't whine like a crybaby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Academic dishonesty extends further than what shows up on your transcript. The measure of a man us not what he does when people are watching but rather what he does when no one is watching Cadbury ethics - with respect to ethical decisions don't do in the darkness what you wouldn't do in the light. side note: what ever doctors give out these notes probably deserve a slap on the wrist. Does sounds like a stressful week though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drogba Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Unfortunately that is part of the university experience. If you are consistently taking 5 courses a semester, the odds are pretty high that exam schedules will be less than ideal. The best way to counteract this is to prepare well in advance. Schedules for midterms and finals are known well in advance. Will less than ideal schedules affect your performance? more than likely by a few percent, but it shouldn't be that bad if you prepare well. Getting into the habit of running to the doctor every time your exam schedule doesn't suit you is not the best solution. It's just something you have to suck up and deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmer08 Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Hey,I have really bad schedule next week. 1 midterm on Wednesday +lab. 1 on Thursday and 2 on Friday. I was wondering if I should defer one of my midterms on Friday, which is calculus. I mean would the departments be able to know that I wrote one but not the other. I have Calculus in the morning at 9:30 and Psychology in the afternoon at 2:30. Would I get caught for cheating or something if I defer the calc one? I go to York University, Keele campus if anyone is familiar with this type of stuff Its first year calc and psyc... you don't need more than a night to study for both of them (you had the reading week so you should (i) have caught up with your readings for psyc (ii) have done practice problems for calc). You're going to have a really hard time for the rest of your undergrad if you can't even handle this. Its VERY likely that you'll have multiple FINAL exams that are CUMULATIVE within a few days. Good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Yeah suck it up OP, we've all had bad schedules before. I'm not entirely sure you're even in university Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savac Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 if you get a doctor's note, which is not hard to get (tell them you have a stomach ache and pay them 20 bucks), you can defer any exam you wish. just keep in mind you're basically cheating the system. dean will be questioning your bull**** (and he knows it's bull****) but he can't do anything about it because a doctor's note can't be argued against. but really, i have 3 exams in the following week where i have 4 labs. all in 2 days. stop being a pussy and start studying. deferring exams are for losers. but i legit have 5 finals in 4 days in april, i think i'll be needing to defer at least two of my finals if i want to do reasonably well You seem to suggest that it would be easy to find a doctor willing to do this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkMedzz Posted February 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 It may be unethical to do this type of stuff, but failureinlife is right in the sense that they cant do anything about it, if you have a documented medical note that shows youvwere sick that day, theres nothing they can do about it. Whether you were actually sick or not is a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 You had 7 weeks to prepare for an exam schedule that you knew about 7 weeks ago. Pretty pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NutritionRunner Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Supposedly people who defer exams tend to do worse than they would have if they had just written the original exam. So unless you are very, very ill, it is normally suggested that you write the original exam, as you will tend to do better. I haven't seen any hard numbers supporting this, but it is something I've heard from many different sources (profs, students who have deferred exams, graduate students, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkMedzz Posted February 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Defer isnt the right word for what im planning to do because if i miss this midterm the other ones get reweighed more, im not postphoning the midterm to a lter date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Supposedly people who defer exams tend to do worse than they would have if they had just written the original exam. So unless you are very, very ill, it is normally suggested that you write the original exam, as you will tend to do better. I haven't seen any hard numbers supporting this, but it is something I've heard from many different sources (profs, students who have deferred exams, graduate students, etc.) How would a student who deferred an exam know they would have done better had they not deferred it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savac Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 How would a student who deferred an exam know they would have done better had they not deferred it? That's a very good question. Perhaps they had access to alternate realities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NutritionRunner Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 How would a student who deferred an exam know they would have done better had they not deferred it? Well, they obviously don't know for sure, but one of my friends said it was really hard to study for her deferred exam this semester, since the course ended way back in early December. So the material was no longer as fresh in her mind, and it was one additional thing to worry about on top of her full course load this semester. Also, the week for deferred exams to be written was also a busy midterm week for a lot of courses. Obviously, that only applies to formally deferred final exams, as opposed to midterms that are only rescheduled by a day or a week, or informally rescheduled finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uwomedhopeful Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 i know one person at uwo who deferred virtually every single exam throughout the undergraduate studies... eventually won the gold medal at graduation for having the highest 4 year average in the program lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeDoc Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 i know one person at uwo who deferred virtually every single exam throughout the undergraduate studies... eventually won the gold medal at graduation for having the highest 4 year average in the program lol This person should be expelled unless they were actually sick... every exam... Meh, the person could have been an athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeDoc Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 2 midterms on the same day? I guess it sucks... but it's real life. This past December at UWO, we had 5 exams in 4 days. Monday - Infection and Immunity Final 9am Tuesday - Hematology and Oncology (Blood) Final 9am Wednesday - Epidemiology Midterm at 9am, Ethics Final at 2pm Thursday - Introduction to Medicine Final 9am Before anyone jumps on this and says "Yeah... but all you have to do is PASS with a 60%." Yeah, sure we have to pass. But guess what, we cover almost 2-3x the amount of material that one undergraduate course covers in 4-6 weeks time. Don't know if they still do this... but in my day when we took cell bio and genetics at UWO, the midterms were on the same weekend. Saturday and Sunday. In short, this is life. Get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybird Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Suck it up, frosh. You're going to see much worse in upper years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toastman Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Study two weeks in advance and you'll be fine. I tend to do best on my exams when they're all clumped together, as opposed to when they're spaced out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larrivee Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 We had 4 exams on one of the exam days last semester: Gastroenterology, blood & lymphatics, Family Practice, and Clinical Skills. It sucks, but it is what it is. You still have lots of time before finals so just start prepping early! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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