dowatugottado Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Would you also support marriage between adult siblings of the same sex, adult sons and their fathers or adult daughters and their mothers? i am interested in why anyone who supports same-sex marriage would oppose any of the above. obviously, inbreeding is not a concern and presumably there is consent between two mentally sound adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREGtotheHOUSE Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Would you also support marriage between adult siblings of the same sex, adult sons and their fathers or adult daughters and their mothers? i am interested in why anyone who supports same-sex marriage would oppose any of the above. obviously, inbreeding is not a concern and presumably there is consent between two mentally sound adults. pretty stupid question troll : ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowatugottado Posted April 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 pretty stupid question troll : ? elaborate or you are the troll. very srs question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellorie Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Why do people who support opposite sex marriage oppose mothers marrying sons and fathers marrying daughters? Homosexuality and incest don't have some kind of magical correlation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowatugottado Posted April 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Why do people who support opposite sex marriage oppose mothers marrying sons and fathers marrying daughters? Homosexuality and incest don't have some kind of magical correlation. i assumed proponents of same-sex marriage were also against mothers marrying their sons due to the risks of birth defects. now i am asking you why you would be against mothers marrying daughters considering they cannot reproduce. and ok i say we should legalize same-sex incestuous relationships. what is your argument against it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exocytosis Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 i assumed proponents of same-sex marriage were also against mothers marrying their sons due to the risks of birth defects. now i am asking you why you would be against mothers marrying daughters considering they cannot reproduce. and ok i say we should legalize same-sex incestuous relationships. what is your argument against it? I'm against it because I firmly believe it's immoral for people to do things I don't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh fry Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 An incestuous relationship, whether hetero or homosexual, is child abuse and abuse of power when a minor (below the age of consent) is involved. If two mature adults want to have a sexual relationship where no one is being taken advantage of or harmed then what does it matter their gender or relation? This is a terrible wedge strategy, and at best it is a weak argument (slippery slope). Viva la France! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Tulip Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Vive le troll! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowatugottado Posted April 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 An incestuous relationship, whether hetero or homosexual, is child abuse and abuse of power when a minor (below the age of consent) is involved. If two mature adults want to have a sexual relationship where no one is being taken advantage of or harmed then what does it matter their gender or relation? This is a terrible wedge strategy, and at best it is a weak argument (slippery slope). Viva la France! Its not a weak argument, its YOUR argument. Im glad you agree and are endorsing same sex incestuous marriages such as those between brother and brother or sister and sister And who said anything about minors? I explicitly stated adult. Did you read the OP or do certain words trigger a parroting response in you that you are incapable of controlling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowatugottado Posted April 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Vive le troll! You cant accept the fact that the same arguments you make for same sex martiage can also apply in this scenario.go ahead tell me how its different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exocytosis Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 You cant accept the fact that the same arguments you make for same sex martiage can also apply in this scenario.go ahead tell me how its different. I know, right? Everyone knows that despite involving two consenting adults who are capable of making informed decisions, incest is gross and anyone who doesn't think it should be illegal is a dumb liberal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Hood Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 You cant accept the fact that the same arguments you make for same sex martiage can also apply in this scenario.go ahead tell me how its different. In a few years, most people who are calling you a troll will start agreeing with what you're proposing about incestious marriage and will call dectractors "backward". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axialpac Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 You cant accept the fact that the same arguments you make for same sex martiage can also apply in this scenario.go ahead tell me how its different. It's taboo. Whether it's same-sex or heterosexual, members of your nuclear family are off-limits. This is pretty much the case across most (if all) cultures around the world. But yeah in essence, the same arguments can be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Hood Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 It's taboo. Whether it's same-sex or heterosexual, members of your nuclear family are off-limits. This is pretty much the case across most (if all) cultures around the world. Same-sex marriage too used to be tatoo. Soon, we would be legalizing all kinds of marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exocytosis Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Same-sex marriage too used to be tatoo.Soon, we would be legalizing all kinds of marriage. I know, what a travesty! How I long for the days where we could avoid making something legal because we didn't like it. Everyone knows that if you think something is wrong then it is, and if anyone points out that your opinion has no objective basis they're trolling you. Or possibly a demon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duck_season Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 So many controversial topics today haha...who's up for a legalize marijuana thread? I agree with Robin Hood though - who is to stay with the way events have gone down other interest groups won't rise up and demand their rights also be respected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebouque Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 I think zoophilia is very underrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowatugottado Posted April 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 I know, what a travesty! How I long for the days where we could avoid making something legal because we didn't like it. Everyone knows that if you think something is wrong then it is, and if anyone points out that your opinion has no objective basis they're trolling you. Or possibly a demon. haha you're in distress man. take it easy, gl with your exams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Hood Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 I think zoophilia is very underrated. Do you think it should be OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orcamute Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 I don't really care if M + M have sex or F + F have sex. What I do care about is people creating poor offspring. It seems to be the people with the worst genes that have the most babies.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh fry Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Its not a weak argument, its YOUR argument. Im glad you agree and are endorsing same sex incestuous marriages such as those between brother and brother or sister and sister And who said anything about minors? I explicitly stated adult. Did you read the OP or do certain words trigger a parroting response in you that you are incapable of controlling? I set the terms of what I consider to be an acceptable relationship; that they are consenting adults. I intentionally specified that they are not minors because of people like you who are trying to sensationalize this and hope to evoke the thought of minors when they speak of incest. I fully support the union of any two consenting and cognizant people regardless of sex or relation no matter how taboo or unusual it may be. Your argument is weak because you have assumed that people will find the idea so repulsive they will abandon same sex marriage to avoid the slippery slope down to brothers doing it on primetime TV. I hope this makes your day: Uruguay and France have just legalized same sex marriage. England has a bill up that will likely pass. Even the US looks like they could get it done by the time Obama is done. The Boy Scouts of America are going to abandon their no-gays policy next month, and the next republican candidate for president will likely also endorse ssm. Ohhh and church attendance is the lowest it has ever been with churches closing all over Canada almost daily. Happy studying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowatugottado Posted April 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 I don't really care if M + M have sex or F + F have sex. What I do care about is people creating poor offspring. It seems to be the people with the worst genes that have the most babies.. why are you bringing up a non-relevant issue? what does this have to do with procreation? can two brothers or a mother and daughter reproduce? NO. stop derailing the thread please if you cannot answer the OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowatugottado Posted April 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 I set the terms of what I consider to be an acceptable relationship; that they are consenting adults. I intentionally specified that they are not minors because of people like you who are trying to sensationalize this and hope to evoke the thought of minors when they speak of incest. I fully support the union of any two consenting and cognizant people regardless of sex or relation no matter how taboo or unusual it may be. Your argument is weak because you have assumed that people will find the idea so repulsive they will abandon same sex marriage to avoid the slippery slope down to brothers doing it on primetime TV. I hope this makes your day: Uruguay and France have just legalized same sex marriage. England has a bill up that will likely pass. Even the US looks like they could get it done by the time Obama is done. The Boy Scouts of America are going to abandon their no-gays policy next month, and the next republican candidate for president will likely also endorse ssm. Ohhh and church attendance is the lowest it has ever been with churches closing all over Canada almost daily. Happy studying. the OP states: "i am interested in why anyone who supports same-sex marriage would oppose any of the above. obviously, inbreeding is not a concern and presumably there is consent between two mentally sound adults." why are you so angry with your response? and why are you people constantly bringing up things which are irrelevant? i asked if anyone could give a reason why it shoould not be allowed and you did not answer the question. you have stated that you are in favour of same sex sibling and same sex parent child marriaged and i understand your position. i did not make any presumption about anyone, you are making presumptions about my personal convictions. perhaps i support the scenarios mentioned in the OP and now im asking why anyone who supports same-sex marriage would oppose my position on these types of marriages. if you cannot answer the question then would you kindly gtfo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exocytosis Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 haha you're in distress man. take it easy, gl with your exams. Thank you Please keep up the good fight against logic and reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosuperman Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 If its non-coerced between two consenting adults I don't see any argument against it - its their lives, who am I to judge? There may be considerations about genetic testing in case they wanted to have children but such is the case for anyone who is at risk, related or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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